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post #361 of 805
zombie10k RS55/4810
I see no streaking.
post #362 of 805
My x35 and my brothers both have very little of the streaking.I only became aware of it because of this thread.U need to put ur face up to the screen to see it.
Also have clocked 60 hours up and no flickering or anything.Only problem is a stuck blue pixel which can only be seen on an all black screen from within 1 meter.
Was thinking of exchanging but will be keeping it after reading this thread.funny enough my bros x35 also has a stuck blue pixel only visible from within 1 meter.
Can any one comment on the convergence pics i posted.Is it out alot or acceptable.
On a side note.Very little crosstalk for both our x35s.So little, have slided the canceller all the way over to the minimal setting.Also bright enough for me on my 100 inch screen that i run 3d in stage setting with globe on low.too bright for me and missus with it in high lamp.Very suprised with the 3d performance.
post #363 of 805
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Originally Posted by szepi0808 View Post

zombie10k RS55/4810
I see no streaking.
What's his lens shift setting? How much zoom does he use? As I said, I bet there are tons of variables that affect its visibility.

But seriously, why keep posting about it? if the streaking is unacceptable to you, and you think you can get a projector without it, then return it. I just think it's very unlikely that you got two defective projectors in a row. I also have a feeling your third projector will have it too, especially considering that it's a well-documented, relatively common occurrence. Otherwise live with it. But continually posting about it isn't going to make it go away.
Edited by Schwa - 1/9/13 at 6:51am
post #364 of 805
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Originally Posted by merc10 View Post

My x35 and my brothers both have very little of the streaking.I only became aware of it because of this thread.U need to put ur face up to the screen to see it.
Also have clocked 60 hours up and no flickering or anything.Only problem is a stuck blue pixel which can only be seen on an all black screen from within 1 meter.
Was thinking of exchanging but will be keeping it after reading this thread.funny enough my bros x35 also has a stuck blue pixel only visible from within 1 meter.
Can any one comment on the convergence pics i posted.Is it out alot or acceptable.
On a side note.Very little crosstalk for both our x35s.So little, have slided the canceller all the way over to the minimal setting.Also bright enough for me on my 100 inch screen that i run 3d in stage setting with globe on low.too bright for me and missus with it in high lamp.Very suprised with the 3d performance.
I'd never have noticed the streaking if not for this thread. In fact I tried to show it to my wife and she said "sheesh, if you haven't pointed that out I'd never have seen it." I didn't bother trying to take a picture of it since mine is such a dim blue color it'd never show up in a photo.

Your convergence pictures were taken too far away from the screen for anyone to comment on. You'd have to get closer to see any misconvergence (you might want to search around the forum for some examples).
post #365 of 805
I am trying to find out the cause of the error.
The problem is not unique.
Zoom, lens shift there is no impact on the streaking.
It's interesting:
erstellt: 07. Jan 2013, 19:21
Edited by szepi0808 - 1/10/13 at 2:06am
post #366 of 805
Has anyone been able to test the light output of the rs46 in 3d mode after the firmware fix? I know there is a lot of speculation that the 46 would work life the 4810 post firmware update, but wanted to know if that had been confirmed.
post #367 of 805
For what it's worth, I have no streaking on my brand new X35.

Also, I already have the updated switcher (2012.12.4.1) even though my unit has the 'bad' serial number.
post #368 of 805
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Originally Posted by stevelup View Post

For what it's worth, I have no streaking on my brand new X35.

Also, I already have the updated switcher (2012.12.4.1) even though my unit has the 'bad' serial number.

My RS46 has been at JVC without any feedback for a week now. They don't seem to find out what it is wrong with it. Nor they're able to provide me with an impeccable piece. It's been six weeks since I bought my projector and it is outrageous that they have not been able to fix it eversince. If I don't get a faultless one within a week I'll claim my money back and purchase an X35 hoping that it is free of streaking.
post #369 of 805
JVC isn't really impressing me at this point. I brought up a problem a month ago after I had my projector for just a day or two.

It took them three weeks to even acknowledge that the projector was defective and they said they would issue an RMA. It's been almost a week since then and I still haven't received an authorization to return it for exchange.

It's pretty frustrating.
post #370 of 805
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Originally Posted by edfowler View Post

JVC isn't really impressing me at this point. I brought up a problem a month ago after I had my projector for just a day or two.

It took them three weeks to even acknowledge that the projector was defective and they said they would issue an RMA. It's been almost a week since then and I still haven't received an authorization to return it for exchange.

It's pretty frustrating.
Did you call JVC directly? I called the JVC Pro customer service line, was forwarded to the installation specialists, left a message, and was called back right away. The person who called me back answered my question but also gave me the direct number to their projector specialist in their Imaging Products division for more info. That person was out of the office when I first called him, so I left a message, and he called me back on the same day I returned to the office. I missed his call, but I plan to call him back on Monday just to close the loop.

As with everything, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. PM me if you want the names/numbers of the folks I spoke to. Of course, these contacts will only work if you have an RS-series projector since the X-series projectors are supported on the consumer side of the house.

I didn't even bother with going through AVAD. I think I saw you mention that you were waiting on them to issue your RMA. If that's the case, I'd skip AVAD and try JVC proper.
post #371 of 805
Hi All,

SOme time back someone asked if anyone has tried the Samsung SSG-4100GB glasses with teh JVC Emitter. Once I got my PS3 working with 3D I tried the pair I picked up cheap. I thought I would try them since they are advertised to be good for those who wear glasses as I do.

They do infact work with the JVC RF emitter. I didi see some crosstalk watching Madagascar 3 but considerably less with Avatar. The glasses fit surprisingly well over my glasses. I will probably use my JVC glasses though as they fit nicely as well.

Now if only JVC Canada would learn about the 3D firmware fix that is supposedly out there.
Ron
post #372 of 805
Thanks Scwha, pm sent. I actually paid the extra for a RS4810 thinking it would have a little extra Quality Control.
post #373 of 805
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Originally Posted by Ronzai View Post

Hi All,

SOme time back someone asked if anyone has tried the Samsung SSG-4100GB glasses with teh JVC Emitter.
They do infact work with the JVC RF emitter.
Ron
Which type of emitter, the new RF JVC PK-EM2-E ?
Thank you
Gianni
post #374 of 805
I got a surprising answer from my merchant. The importer told him that JVC cannot provide me a good and free of streaking RS-46, so they will refund the price of the projector.
They came to this decision after long investigation and after checking several models. They also admitted that the lens responsible for this kind of error.

From this I conclude that all previously manufactured RS-46 models have lens faulty. I think they do a bunch of tests before they came to this statement.

The only question is whether the X-models are affected or not, because in this case I would have the same problem even with the X35.
post #375 of 805
Sound like they just don't want to deal with you
post #376 of 805
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Originally Posted by okvcos View Post

Which type of emitter, the new RF JVC PK-EM2-E ?
Thank you
Gianni

Hey Gianni,

Yes it is with the new RF Emitter PK-EM2 on my X35.
The only thing is the button to turn them on is awfully small and difficult to turn them on (at least with my fingers)

Ron
post #377 of 805
I just received an email from JVC Canada service.
It sounds like they are finally aware of the 3d Switcher update for the X35 as they told me in the email that I would have to supply my serial number to them (obviously) and that the update has to be done at HQ.
I will send them my info and see what they have to say about it and hopefully I can get turnaround time info from them.

Hopefuly they will supply shipping back to them.

Ron
post #378 of 805
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Originally Posted by Ronzai View Post

Hey Gianni,

Yes it is with the new RF Emitter PK-EM2 on my X35.
The only thing is the button to turn them on is awfully small and difficult to turn them on (at least with my fingers)

Ron

Hello Ron
Well, I ordered the emitter RF Emitter PK-EM2 and three glasses Samsung SSG-4100GB
If the glasses do not work is your fault .... I joke!
thank you very much

Gianni
post #379 of 805
Hey Gianni,

Just in case, I only picked up one pair for starters so if they didn't work I was only out $25. My dealer provided two pairs of JVC glasses and the emitter but I just had to know what might work as a cheaper option for when multiple people are over to watch 3D.
I will probably pick up a couple more of those and if I can find a good deal might try the Panasonic RF glasses as well.

One nice thing about the JVC glasses (and I think Panasonic) is the ability to watch in 2D if you or a guest needs to do that while others still see 3D.
I don't know if the Samsungs give that option I didn't read the instructions, just held them close to the emitter and held the power button to pair them to the emitter and away I went.

Also note, I think the JVC glasses are not quite as dark as the Samsungs (which aren't too bad)

I will have to send my X35 in to JVC for the 3D switcher update when I get a chance. I want to make sure as much crosstalk as possible is eliminated.

Later
Ron
post #380 of 805
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Originally Posted by okvcos View Post

Hello Ron
Well, I ordered the emitter RF Emitter PK-EM2 and three glasses Samsung SSG-4100GB
If the glasses do not work is your fault .... I joke!
thank you very much

Gianni

This works and the epson is also
Unfortunately, less light gets through like the jvc rf specs
post #381 of 805
Thread Starter 
I finally got a light meter so that I can do my own lumen measurements on my (uncalibrated) JVC. In particular, pre-firmware vs post-firmware 3D output.

Just so I measure this properly, is this the correct placement?

projector screen > light meter (facing the projector) > 3D glasses > projector
post #382 of 805
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Originally Posted by Dragon Reborn View Post

I finally got a light meter so that I can do my own lumen measurements on my (uncalibrated) JVC. In particular, pre-firmware vs post-firmware 3D output.

Just so I measure this properly, is this the correct placement?

projector screen > light meter (facing the projector) > 3D glasses > projector

I posted detailed instructions about a week ago in this thread on how to take the measurement. Take a look and let me know if you have q's.
post #383 of 805
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I posted detailed instructions about a week ago in this thread on how to take the measurement. Take a look and let me know if you have q's.
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Here's how to measure the lumens, I'll use my 142" 16:9 as an example.

We have to convert Sq Inches -> Sq Meters.

The screen is 70" tall x 124" wide. 70" x 124" = 8680 Sq Inches -> 5.59 Sq Meters


To get a basic lux reading, you need a 100% white screen on any basic calibration disk. You can put the projector in simulated 3D mode and make sure that 3D mode is selected from the menu. Then take a lux reading at the center of the screen with the meter facing the projector.

Lumens = LUX * Sq Meters. In this case, it's 170 * 5.59 = ~950 lumens.

The reason I said basic idea is because you should technically measure 9 points across the screen (top left, bottom right, etc) and then average the LUX reading. It will be lower than the center measurement. This is final lumen reading.

Also be sure to post how far the projector is for the screen for the guys that like crunching the #'s. With the 4810 software, there was a swing of about 300 lumens from CT @ 0 to CT @ 8.

Thanks, Zombie, found it.

I suppose my main question is whether I will want to try measuring lumens through (behind) the glasses or is that not really practical?
post #384 of 805
Hello,

Does any one else have a green push on their new projectors?

Mine does, and its non too pleasing.

Tom
post #385 of 805
What mode are you using it in?

Colour temp 6500 or 7000 should be about right (until you have a calibration or if you have a meter yourself) and standard colour space should be close to rec 709. Of course there are tolerances between units and particularly lamps which is why copying settings isn't a good idea.

I suspect you're using the 'wide' colour space or have it to 'off' which also gives an oversaturated gamut.
post #386 of 805
Is this an error in the manual? The way I read it, it's saying opening up the iris to 0 increases the contrast. I thought at -15 you would get decreased brightness and increased contrast...was I wrong?


Lens Aperture
For adjusting the amount of opening of the optical iris.
Stopping down the iris reduces the brightness, while opening it up increases the contrast.
Setting range: ­15 (stops down) to 0 (opens up)
post #387 of 805
I think it's probably a translation error. The aperture control the light output and low numbers such as -15 give the most on/off contrast, 0 giving the least on/off contrast and the most light output.
post #388 of 805
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Originally Posted by Kelvin1965S View Post

I think it's probably a translation error. The aperture control the light output and low numbers such as -15 give the most on/off contrast, 0 giving the least on/off contrast and the most light output.

Kelvin.
How many hours on your unit? Have you checked the lumens lately?
I'm around 100 hours but have not measured.
I'm still low lamp aperture 12 and have noticed no drop in brightness.
post #389 of 805
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I posted detailed instructions about a week ago in this thread on how to take the measurement. Take a look and let me know if you have q's.

Zombie, I'm a little stuck with my lumens measurements:

When I put the projector into simulated 3D mode (2D-3D conversion), and then play the 100% white screen from the AVS calibration disc, I can't adjust the 3D crosstalk setting on the JVC. How are you able to set different crosstalk settings and measure lumens?
post #390 of 805
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Originally Posted by tigerfan33 View Post

Kelvin.
How many hours on your unit? Have you checked the lumens lately?
I'm around 100 hours but have not measured.
I'm still low lamp aperture 12 and have noticed no drop in brightness.

Just under 100 hours still at 100 lux (no drop) -15 aperture.
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