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post #451 of 793
2/4/13 at 7:57pm
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Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post

If anyone is looking for an RS46 in excellent condition, check the classifieds for my listing! It's an awesome projector, but doesn't fit my needs.

Did you get the PM I sent you yesterday? Is it still for sale?

Tom
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post #452 of 793
2/5/13 at 3:13am
I've sent yesterday my jvc rs46 ti Milan for firmware upgrade!!
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post #453 of 793
2/5/13 at 3:50pm
Can someone please tell me the difference between JVC RS46 and JVC RS46U? I feel like it is a dumb question but I can't find anywhere that says if there is really a difference between the two or not.

Thanks in advance.
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post #454 of 793
2/6/13 at 3:12pm
bump.... Can anyone help me out on my question above.

TIA
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post #455 of 793
2/6/13 at 3:19pm
My RS46 arrived today safe and sound from A/V Science(Thanks Mike!), 6 days 3 hours without a projector... it's no way to live. Already did an initial calibration with HD Basics, not much to adjust. Surprised they had CMD on low out of the box, had to immediatly turn that off. I turned it on high altitude mode, as I'm a little gun shy after my RS40 with all the bulb issues. Sure is loud though, think it's safe to leave high alt mode off?
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post #456 of 793
2/6/13 at 3:28pm
I run mine in low lamp and high altitude off, but I live in the UK at sea level. My lamp seems very stable at over 110 hours now has barely dropped from new. I find the fan is quite loud in high lamp (and I guess high altitude) so I couldn't live with that noise myself.
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post #457 of 793
2/6/13 at 6:15pm
I'm interested in buying RS46 from AVS, however I could not find send me the link for the purchase? Thanks.
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post #458 of 793
2/6/13 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by cwang View Post

I'm interested in buying RS46 from AVS, however I could not find send me the link for the purchase? Thanks.


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post #459 of 793
2/6/13 at 9:32pm
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Originally Posted by cwang View Post

I'm interested in buying RS46 from AVS, however I could not find send me the link for the purchase? Thanks.

JVC does not allow the RS line to be sold "over the internet", so you have to call and talk to the dealer. I've called and talked to Mike Garrett at AVS twice now, and he was very helpful both times and just provided the information I was asking for without any pushy salesmanship. Great service, highly knowledgeable, good prices, can't ask for much more.
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post #460 of 793
2/7/13 at 6:25am
Can you send me Mike's phone number to my e-mail at cwang@ford.com?
Thanks.
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post #461 of 793
2/7/13 at 6:43am
Hello. I'm a long time JVC projector fan, I've had a 750 and a RS40. I recently bought the RS46 from AV Science, thanks Mike for the great customer service. I hung it last night in the same spot as always, using the same hardware. It was perfectly level and perpendicular to the screen (120 inch, 16x9, 1.3 gain). It hangs about 3 inches below the top of the screen, 13 feet away.

At first I was happy, until I noticed that the focus was really bad in the bottom left corner, like almost double grid lines! Of course, when I focused it to a tolerable state it would ruin the rest of the picture. Convergence in the middle of the screen was acceptable, by no means perfect, but from where I sit, more than good enough.

Mike has offered to send me another RS46, I'm worried that AV Science's early batch (without firmware) could have some early manufacturing issues. Can someone else please comment on their experience with the focus in general and maybe the ones they got from AV Science. Thank you.
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post #462 of 793
2/7/13 at 6:49am
The update on the early batch of JVC sold only concerns 3D. Nothing to do with 2D. My focus is fine and probably will not be sending mine to JVC for the update as I only use 2D.
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post #463 of 793
2/7/13 at 6:53am
I reviewed one of the first RS46's that AVS received. The lens on this copy is nearly flawless, great focus on my 142" 16:9.

A similar thing happened last year when I bought my RS55. I could not focus the entire screen but the replacement was a day/night difference. Anything can happen to these projectors as they make their way 1/2 across the globe.

I would swap it out, the replacement is likely going to be much better.
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post #464 of 793
2/7/13 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by cwang View Post

Can you send me Mike's phone number to my e-mail at cwang@ford.com?
Thanks.
Mike is also known as "AV Science Sales 5" -- see his post here for his contact info.
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post #465 of 793
2/7/13 at 8:11am
What is this 3D update? i got mine yesterday from A/V Science, will it need it? And is there no way to do it at home, even with the LAN port on the back of the projector?
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post #466 of 793
2/7/13 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by plissken99 View Post

What is this 3D update? i got mine yesterday from A/V Science, will it need it? And is there no way to do it at home, even with the LAN port on the back of the projector?

You will have to send it in if you want the update. To access the service menu, on the remote press UP DOWN RIGHT LEFT ENTER

From post #1 of this thread ...
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Originally Posted by Dragon Reborn View Post

3D ghosting problem with initial release:
Switcher #: 2012.9.26.1 (faulty 3D)
Switcher #: 2012.12.4.1 (fixed 3D)
(Access the service menu to view the switcher #)
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post #467 of 793
2/7/13 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

I reviewed one of the first RS46's that AVS received. The lens on this copy is nearly flawless, great focus on my 142" 16:9.

A similar thing happened last year when I bought my RS55. I could not focus the entire screen but the replacement was a day/night difference. Anything can happen to these projectors as they make their way 1/2 across the globe.

I would swap it out, the replacement is likely going to be much better.

Thanks for the confidence guys. I have ordered the replacement RS46... fingers crossed!!
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post #468 of 793
2/7/13 at 9:12am
I confirmed I have the old firmware naturally. So how big an improvement is the fix? And will JVC America pay shipping?
Edited by plissken99 - 2/7/13 at 1:16pm
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post #469 of 793
2/7/13 at 1:16pm
Ok after some reading it's mentioned that pre update it looks identical to the 3D I had with my RS40, but reduces light output. 1st off, how can this be? Because in the settings I see controls for crosstalk reduction which the RS40 never had, those do nothing? And which do you prefer, the low light output, or more crosstalk?
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post #470 of 793
2/7/13 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by tklein2 View Post

Hello. I'm a long time JVC projector fan, I've had a 750 and a RS40. I recently bought the RS46 from AV Science, thanks Mike for the great customer service. I hung it last night in the same spot as always, using the same hardware. It was perfectly level and perpendicular to the screen (120 inch, 16x9, 1.3 gain). It hangs about 3 inches below the top of the screen, 13 feet away.

At first I was happy, until I noticed that the focus was really bad in the bottom left corner, like almost double grid lines! Of course, when I focused it to a tolerable state it would ruin the rest of the picture. Convergence in the middle of the screen was acceptable, by no means perfect, but from where I sit, more than good enough.

Mike has offered to send me another RS46, I'm worried that AV Science's early batch (without firmware) could have some early manufacturing issues. Can someone else please comment on their experience with the focus in general and maybe the ones they got from AV Science. Thank you.
I had the exact same issue (plus two stuck blue pixels) on the first RS46 I got from AV Science. My replacement's focus was great, and I then decided to trade up to the the RS4810 which has great focus also.
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post #471 of 793
2/7/13 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by Schwa View Post

Mike is also known as "AV Science Sales 5" -- see his post here for his contact info.

I talked to Mike this afternoon. I'm going to join RS46 club next week. Thanks.

Mike specifically told me the projector I'm going to get has firmware 1.0. I don't care much about 3D.It is probably OK with me.
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post #472 of 793
2/7/13 at 11:13pm
I measured yesterday my loss of brightness after 50 hours with my X35, here are the results :

After 50 hours 206 lux. (561 lumens) I lost 60 lux
New lamp after calibration ( 262 lux 717 lumens)
around -23%

Contraste ratio is now at 20600:1
Edited by kraine - 2/8/13 at 12:41am
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post #473 of 793
2/7/13 at 11:16pm
I updated also the firmware of my X35 as you can see here the results before and after on 3D (bottom of the review) :

http://www.audiovideohd.fr/tests/351-JVC-X35-5.html
Edited by kraine - 2/8/13 at 12:40am
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post #474 of 793
2/7/13 at 11:38pm
Kraine - did you notice a lumen difference in 3D after the update? Does the lumen output change from Crosstalk control setting 0 -> 8 ?

I'm curious if it's the same now as the 4810. thx for the info
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post #475 of 793
2/8/13 at 4:05am
kraine,

Thanks for the review!

I find it strange though that high/low lamp affected contrast. It shouldn't do that in theory (AFAIK) and cine4home has confirmed it doesn't in practise either - having measured multiple JVCs of both current and older iterations all coming out exactly the same.
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post #476 of 793
2/8/13 at 4:50am
Hi Drexler, I can only report what my Luxmeter is telling me sorry. smile.gif
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post #477 of 793
2/8/13 at 6:07am
Definitely, you can only present what you see and measure! However, maybe it's my scientific training, but I would never present counter intuitive data without; a) first looking into possible causes that might bias the result, and b) disclosing that the result is unexpected but that you can't explain it. Otherwise people might take it for truth even though it's just an unverified observation. Then again, maybe it's just me being an*l when it comes to these things... wink.gif

Don't take it as personal critisism, most reviewers aren't very rigorous, I just think the reviews would be much better if they were. Thus I'm trying to assert a little bit of scientific influence if I can. smile.gif
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post #478 of 793
2/8/13 at 6:31am
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Originally Posted by zombie10k View Post

Kraine - did you notice a lumen difference in 3D after the update? Does the lumen output change from Crosstalk control setting 0 -> 8 ?

I'm curious if it's the same now as the 4810. thx for the info

if anyone has the post firmware update, the above info would be appreciated.
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post #479 of 793
2/8/13 at 6:57am
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Originally Posted by kraine View Post

I measured yesterday my loss of brightness after 50 hours with my X35, here are the results :

After 50 hours 206 lux. (561 lumens) I lost 60 lux
New lamp after calibration ( 262 lux 717 lumens)
around -23%

Contraste ratio is now at 20600:1

I'll be checking my X35 again tonight: I don't check the maximum output, just my base line setting which is minimum zoom, iris -15 calibrated with a dE less than 3 at 100%.

My initial reading was 102 Lux after calibration at 15 hours (non calibrated remained at 92 Lux from 0 to 15 hours). Last time I measured my base line output and it had dropped, but only slightly to 94 Lux after 115 hours, so I make that an 8.5% drop, so significantly less than yours. If it matters I've only used high power very briefly, by mistake since I selected a 3D mode by accident when I first had the projector, so that 115 hours is 99% in low power, if it makes any difference.

Out of interest how do you do the contrast measurement? I have a Tecpel 531 Lux meter and also an i1 display Pro enhanced with Chromapure, so I might have to try taking this measurement to see what I'm getting. I'll be disappointed if it's less than 40,000:1 since I'm at minimum zoom and -15 iris, but we'll see.
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post #480 of 793
2/8/13 at 9:20am
I happened across a new review for the X35 that looks to have just been posted earlier this week. My searching didn't find it in this thread or the "Sony HW50 / BenQ W7000 / Epson 5020 / JVC RS55 / JVC RS 46 / JVC RS4810 / JVC RS56 Mini-shootout..." so I thought I would post it for those who might be interested:

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/jvc-x35-201302052614.htm

The X35 received their "Highly Recommended" verdict.
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