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post #61 of 95
Here's another video that I took of my 'subject' with the Panasonic LUMIX DMC-LX7. When I was done shooting this video, I noticed that it wasn't on Manual Focus. DOH. Oh well, it turned out alright, I guess. Should be a better go next time with MF on.

Crysis 3 - Nvidia Surround - GTX 480 SLI:
post #62 of 95
I think that these videos are getting better and better. There's still some slight focusing things going on, watch the frames per second counter in the top right hand corner of the rightmost screen. There's frequent focusing in and out going on there. Dahh, how to fix this? Anyone? I have all setings set to manual and my tripod nice and secure. Take a look:

Bioshock Infinite Gameplay - Nvidia Surround - GTX 480 SLI:
post #63 of 95
I still do not understand this problem. Did you use *manual* focus? Fix the focus, and then no in-and-out focus. What am I or you missing?
post #64 of 95
I select "MF" for Manual Focus in the in-menu video options, and also have the lens set to "MF" for Manual Focus.
post #65 of 95
Here are two more videos that I shot tonight, looks a bit out of focus, don't you think? It's hard to get pristine focus with this camera on such a small LCD screen. Any ideas?

Battlefield 3 Gameplay (Air) - Nvidia Surround - GTX 480 SLI:


Battlefield 3 Gameplay (Ground) - Nvidia Surround - GTX 480 SLI:
post #66 of 95
No, focus is not hard at all. First you allow it to autofocus, which does a better job than we could, and then you lock the focus at that point.

I really do not understand why this is such a problem - you are focusing on a fixed point - the screen. Just play a still on the screen with contrasting parts, let it autofocus on that and lock. Also, the depth of field is not so shallow that focus is all that critical anyway. The Panasonic cameras are praised for their superb autofocus.
post #67 of 95
Ok, Mark, think I'm going to just use the camera's build-in auto focus for the rest of my vids until I try a few things. Your suggestions are great ideas, thank you! The thing about the auto focus is that it will actually try to focus in on certain things on the screens, lol. Check it out, what do you think about this video with the built-in auto focus?:

Dead Space 3 Gameplay (Max Settings) - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:
post #68 of 95
Doom 3 BFG Edtion - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

Here's another one, guys. Opinions, please! Anyway that the camera can pic up darker images better?
post #69 of 95
Here's another update on the Lumix DMC-LX7's capabilities:

DiRT 3 - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-way SLI:

Any pointers or criticisms on how my videography can be improved?
post #70 of 95
Hey, I made another video, I really feel like my skills could improve, but, I need input!! Don't be shy, lemme have it!

Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

This one seems too dark, do you agree?
post #71 of 95
F.E.A.R. 3 Gameplay - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

A bit dark, and out of focus. Problems.
post #72 of 95
try some planetside 2 smile.gif
post #73 of 95
The shooting quality of this video looks better, check it out:

Metro: Last Light Benchmark - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:
post #74 of 95
^Nice, looks good! That's a heck of a gaming setup you got there. I would like to see a video of it head on, but I guess you would need a VERY wide angle lens for it to be effective.
post #75 of 95
Thank you, I'm becoming more confident with the Panasonic Lumix DMC LX7's autofocus, even though it's not focused in on the whole picture 100% of the time. Case and point, another example:

Crysis 3 Gameplay (Very High Settings) - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

post #76 of 95
I take that back, the autofocus sucks. Too much shifting around, as seen in this recent video:

Age of Empires II HD Edition - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:


I think that I need to purchase a tablet or laptop to hook up to the Lumix, use the manual setting, and lock in a crisp focus. Is this possible?
post #77 of 95
This review of the Panasonic Lumix DMC LX7 says, "... It's not perfect—despite a relatively low-resolution sensor, it doesn't do that well in low light..." http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2416998,00.asp
which seems to agree with the testing @ DPREVIEW http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-lx7/10

DPREVIEW LX7 high iso tests:



I have a CANON EOSM compact camera, this thing is tiny, and has the same sensor and image quality as the Canon 650D - ie, the EOSM is miles better then the LX7 in low light.

Also, with the EOSM, I can manually adjust shutter speed, aperture & ISO whilst I am rolling.

I use the EOSM as my main camcorder now.
post #78 of 95
The "low-light" performance of the EOS is completely irrelevant here. The person was talking about focus ability for brightly-lit screens. The EOS autofocus performs quite badly (see the reviews). We can see the LX7 videos and they look great absent the focus issue, which can be solved -*obviously* by setting the focus manually, as the shots are of fixed-distance screens. The screen shots are not low-light - they are bright screens in a dark room.
post #79 of 95
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Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

The "low-light" performance of the EOS is completely irrelevant here. The person was talking about focus ability for brightly-lit screens. The EOS autofocus performs quite badly (see the reviews). We can see the LX7 videos and they look great absent the focus issue, which can be solved -*obviously* by setting the focus manually, as the shots are of fixed-distance screens. The screen shots are not low-light - they are bright screens in a dark room.

Exactly this.

What's the best way to manually focus something using such a small screen (on the back of the camera)? Put up large numbers on each monitor and focus in on that?
post #80 of 95
Actually, the best way is to first use autofocus on the letters shown on the screen, and then flick the switch to manual to lock that focus. Autofocus can do a better job than the human eye on a stationary subject. The problem is not getting an accurate focus using auto focus it is losing focus, when the light on the screen changes for example. So all you need to do is lock in the initial focus and it will be fine, it will be perfect.
post #81 of 95
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Originally Posted by markr041 View Post

The "low-light" performance of the EOS is completely irrelevant here. The person was talking about focus ability for brightly-lit screens. The EOS autofocus performs quite badly (see the reviews). We can see the LX7 videos and they look great absent the focus issue, which can be solved -*obviously* by setting the focus manually, as the shots are of fixed-distance screens. The screen shots are not low-light - they are bright screens in a dark room.

The issue of focusing was in regards to continuous AF. There's a firmware fix coming out in a couple of days.

With the EOS M, you can just touch on the subject and it locks focus. So, it would actually work in that situation.

TBH, the EOS M is a much more advanced camera than LX7 - way better build, extensive menu system, large APS-C sensor.
I'm not knocking the LX7 for what it can do, but it's more in the point and shoot category. EOS M is a basically a compact DSLR/mirrorless.
post #82 of 95
I think that the problem with my setup is that I have three separate monitors at different angles. I think this setup makes it rather difficult for the Lumix's focus. Here's another video with the auto focus on:

Google Earth - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:
post #83 of 95
Age of Empires Online - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

What do you think about the Lumix's performance in this video?
post #84 of 95
Here's another video that I shot with the Panasonic Lumix DMC LX7:

Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0 - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

It really doesn't do so well with darker areas on screen. Unless, I'm doing something wrong?
post #85 of 95
the LX7 is such a great camera. go out and start shooting the real world smile.gif

and make sure to post your video samples
post #86 of 95
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Originally Posted by thedest View Post

the LX7 is such a great camera. go out and start shooting the real world smile.gif

and make sure to post your video samples

There are so many other people doing that. There are hardly any other gamers taking fine media of their gaming setups. I consider it digital art. biggrin.gif
post #87 of 95
Unigine Valley Benchmark 1.0 - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

Dunno about this one. Lots of auto focus correct going on. Meh. rolleyes.gif
post #88 of 95
Modern Warfare 2 - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

The alignment of my monitors in proximity to each other has been cleaned up, and a new set of XTracPads RipperXXL desk mats has been added!
post #89 of 95
post #90 of 95
Battlefield 4 - Nvidia Surround - GTX 670 3-Way SLI:

Here's Battlefield 4 single player campaign running mostly Ultra settings across a triple-monitor setup!
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