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post #1921 of 2776
Ordered mine on 4/24 about 11:50 AM and it was on my porch 4/25 11:51 AM. The bad news is that it came from Edison NJ and I had to pay Sales Tax of $20 since I live in NJ.

Outer box had some damage, but inner box arrived in good shape with no damage.

Grill seems in good shape and I THINK the port is connected. Where does the port become disconnected? Near the front, or way in the back? What is the best way to check if is connected?
post #1922 of 2776
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Originally Posted by hockeynut View Post

What do you guys think? An SW-112 for $500 or the RW-12d for $300. Is the SW-112 $200 better?

RW-12D is better by spec & original msrp the SW-112 a newer product and in current production .
post #1923 of 2776
Thanks Sancho. I appreciate the feedback. I think I will rule out the SW-112 based on that response.

Based on my layout, 15' X 35' wide I am convinced I should go the two sub route. Do you think two SW-110 would be sufficient?

I think I have convinced myself to go with the RF82ii's and RC62ii.
post #1924 of 2776
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Originally Posted by hockeynut View Post

Thanks Sancho. I appreciate the feedback. I think I will rule out the SW-112 based on that response.

Based on my layout, 15' X 35' wide I am convinced I should go the two sub route. Do you think two SW-110 would be sufficient?

I think I have convinced myself to go with the RF82ii's and RC62ii.

Depends on your idea of what sufficient is. A little bump sure. You're not going to pressurize that area as you have over 5,000cuft (w/ 10' ceilings) though. And with it dropping off quick around 30hz.....


If you're stuck on Klipsch, then go with the RF62's and put the money you saved into better subs. Having dual 8's in towers and trying to run multiple budget-type subs is pointless. You don't gain any extension when adding more cone area.

I'm not sure what you're getting the RF-82's and sw-110 for, but you could save what looks like $200-$300 just by going with the rf-62's. The sw-110 is looking like $400-500 (x2)..so say $800. You could have $1,000 for subs and a set of RF-62's...

DIY a set of sealed 18's/15's, pick up dual Outlaw's, etc. They will KILL the sw-110's and your wont have tons of pointless bass from around 40-45hz+ and nothing below 30-35 with authority.
post #1925 of 2776
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

Depends on your idea of what sufficient is. A little bump sure. You're not going to pressurize that area as you have over 5,000cuft (w/ 10' ceilings) though. And with it dropping off quick around 30hz.....


If you're stuck on Klipsch, then go with the RF62's and put the money you saved into better subs. Having dual 8's in towers and trying to run multiple budget-type subs is pointless. You don't gain any extension when adding more cone area.

I'm not sure what you're getting the RF-82's and sw-110 for, but you could save what looks like $200-$300 just by going with the rf-62's. The sw-110 is looking like $400-500 (x2)..so say $800. You could have $1,000 for subs and a set of RF-62's...

DIY a set of sealed 18's/15's, pick up dual Outlaw's, etc. They will KILL the sw-110's and your wont have tons of pointless bass from around 40-45hz+ and nothing below 30-35 with authority.

That's why I ask. I'm still learning here.

I'm definitely not stuck on a Klipsch sub, but I'm not a diy'er either. I just thought bigger is better as far as fronts go, that's why I was thinking RF82s.
post #1926 of 2776
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Originally Posted by hockeynut View Post

That's why I ask. I'm still learning here.

I'm definitely not stuck on a Klipsch sub, but I'm not a diy'er either. I just thought bigger is better as far as fronts go, that's why I was thinking RF82s.
Not true. ousooner2 has a good point.
post #1927 of 2776
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

Depends on your idea of what sufficient is. A little bump sure. You're not going to pressurize that area as you have over 5,000cuft (w/ 10' ceilings) though. And with it dropping off quick around 30hz.....


If you're stuck on Klipsch, then go with the RF62's and put the money you saved into better subs. Having dual 8's in towers and trying to run multiple budget-type subs is pointless. You don't gain any extension when adding more cone area.

I'm not sure what you're getting the RF-82's and sw-110 for, but you could save what looks like $200-$300 just by going with the rf-62's. The sw-110 is looking like $400-500 (x2)..so say $800. You could have $1,000 for subs and a set of RF-62's...

DIY a set of sealed 18's/15's, pick up dual Outlaw's, etc. They will KILL the sw-110's and your wont have tons of pointless bass from around 40-45hz+ and nothing below 30-35 with authority.


why do you call 40-45hz+ bass pointless?
post #1928 of 2776
he didn't call 40 -45 hz playback pointless. Spending good $$ on speakers that go that low, then not using that capability by crossing them over to subs that can do it better, IS pointless. Spending $800 on those sw-110's is also pointless, as you could get one much better sub for that cash outlay.
post #1929 of 2776
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Originally Posted by wlhungdude View Post

he didn't call 40 -45 hz playback pointless. Spending good $$ on speakers that go that low, then not using that capability by crossing them over to subs that can do it better, IS pointless. Spending $800 on those sw-110's is also pointless, as you could get one much better sub for that cash outlay.
Totally agree with your first point.
But the second one...not so much. He has a 5000cu ft room. 1 $800 sub wont touch it.
post #1930 of 2776
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

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But the second one...not so much. He has a 5000cu ft room. 1 $800 sub wont touch it.

Sure it can. Audioholics has rated the Outlaw EX, SVS PB12-NSD, and Power Sound Audio XV15 as good in rooms up to 5,000 cubic feet. Now obviously, one of those won't pressurize the room. But you can still get some decent bass out of one.
post #1931 of 2776
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Sure it can. Audioholics has rated the Outlaw EX, SVS PB12-NSD, and Power Sound Audio XV15 as good in rooms up to 5,000 cubic feet. Now obviously, one of those won't pressurize the room. But you can still get some decent bass out of one.
I stand corrected. smile.gif The trick seems to me to be "rooms up to 5000" and "decent bass".
post #1932 of 2776
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I stand corrected. smile.gif The trick seems to me to be "rooms up to 5000" and "decent bass".

I ran an Outlaw EX in 6,000 cubic feet of open floor plan, listening position about 10-12 feet away. Sure. More sub would be awesome. But the EX did pretty good all by itself biggrin.gif
post #1933 of 2776
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I ran an Outlaw EX in 6,000 cubic feet of open floor plan, listening position about 10-12 feet away. Sure. More sub would be awesome. But the EX did pretty good all by itself biggrin.gif
Good to know. I wonder if 2 pb1000 or 2 of that new Rhythmik would do any better.
post #1934 of 2776
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Good to know. I wonder if 2 pb1000 or 2 of that new Rhythmik would do any better.

I was thinking about dual PB1000 to save up at least $400 dollars from buying a PSA-XV30, but I've changed my mind and now I am saving up for the XV30 instead.biggrin.gif
post #1935 of 2776
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I was thinking about dual PB1000 to save up at least $400 dollars from buying a PSA-XV30, but I've changed my mind and now I am saving up for the XV30 instead.biggrin.gif

good choice!
post #1936 of 2776
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good choice!
As youre thinking "How about 2?" smile.gif
post #1937 of 2776
I'd buy 2 of the Klipsch this thread is about, and go on with life. Remember the ability to hear is important to enjoy music; Beethoven excluded in old age.
post #1938 of 2776
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Good to know. I wonder if 2 pb1000 or 2 of that new Rhythmik would do any better.

I was thinking about dual PB1000 to save up at least $400 dollars from buying a PSA-XV30, but I've changed my mind and now I am saving up for the XV30 instead.biggrin.gif

Oh lets just cut to the chase and get the Seaton Submersive HP or the Captivator S2 or something serious DIY and get on with it! rolleyes.gif
post #1939 of 2776
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Oh lets just cut to the chase and get the Seaton Submersive HP or the Captivator S2 or something serious DIY and get on with it! rolleyes.gif
You buyin'? smile.gif
post #1940 of 2776
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

You buyin'? smile.gif

If so, I'm in biggrin.gif
post #1941 of 2776
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

Depends on your idea of what sufficient is. A little bump sure. You're not going to pressurize that area as you have over 5,000cuft (w/ 10' ceilings) though. And with it dropping off quick around 30hz.....


If you're stuck on Klipsch, then go with the RF62's and put the money you saved into better subs. Having dual 8's in towers and trying to run multiple budget-type subs is pointless. You don't gain any extension when adding more cone area.

I'm not sure what you're getting the RF-82's and sw-110 for, but you could save what looks like $200-$300 just by going with the rf-62's. The sw-110 is looking like $400-500 (x2)..so say $800. You could have $1,000 for subs and a set of RF-62's...

DIY a set of sealed 18's/15's, pick up dual Outlaw's, etc. They will KILL the sw-110's and your wont have tons of pointless bass from around 40-45hz+ and nothing below 30-35 with authority.

I can't say I agree with that. I have seen the frequency response graphs and I have two RW-12d's myself. I get VERY usable output to about 19hz with duals.
post #1942 of 2776
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Originally Posted by blake18 View Post

I can't say I agree with that. I have seen the frequency response graphs and I have two RW-12d's myself. I get VERY usable output to about 19hz with duals.
You may be alone on that.
post #1943 of 2776
I'm envious. It took us three RW-12d's to get to a very useable 19Hz.
post #1944 of 2776
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

why do you call 40-45hz+ bass pointless?

It's already been stated basically, but I'm not calling 40-45hz+ pointless, I'm calling having multiple drivers playing that region and up with basically nothing below it near the same SPL pointless (especially given the budget you have).
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I can't say I agree with that. I have seen the frequency response graphs and I have two RW-12d's myself. I get VERY usable output to about 19hz with duals.

Well, he was asking if the two of the SW-110's were sufficient, not the rw-12d's. I didn't see a graph on them or any 3rd party measurements, but if you go by Klipsch's measurements this thing could be down 6db by 28-30hz.

Do you have a graph or any measurements of your setup?
post #1945 of 2776
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

I'd buy 2 of the Klipsch this thread is about, and go on with life. Remember the ability to hear is important to enjoy music; Beethoven excluded in old age.

I'm with you Sancho. I think that's what I'm gonna do. I was already impressed with my current JBL12. So I know having dual Klipsch subs is gonna be a major improvement.
post #1946 of 2776
^^Hn, I disremember, what are you using to drive this? Most will allow you to use the JBL as well. SW output is MONO, so all you have to have is a 2-way splitter and 1 SW output becomes 2 biggrin.gif
post #1947 of 2776
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Sure it can. Audioholics has rated the Outlaw EX, SVS PB12-NSD, and Power Sound Audio XV15 as good in rooms up to 5,000 cubic feet. Now obviously, one of those won't pressurize the room. But you can still get some decent bass out of one.

+1
post #1948 of 2776
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

^^Hn, I disremember, what are you using to drive this? Most will allow you to use the JBL as well. SW output is MONO, so all you have to have is a 2-way splitter and 1 SW output becomes 2 biggrin.gif

Hey Sancho. Well, right now I have the Denon 2112. But I am gonna probably upgrade to the new X4000 (as soon as it comes out). It is supposed to be 7.2.

That's good information to know though. I might try it first and see how well it works.
post #1949 of 2776
The 2112 should do, for now, 2 way splitters are really inexpensive; I'm using 3112, myself. Wait for the price drop on the x4000.
post #1950 of 2776
I was gonna bite at $999. I hope that's not too long a wait.
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