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post #2011 of 2776
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Exactly. Thank you. smile.gif

Thank you for the information... I picked up a cheap splitter in the meantime, but I agree these would be much easier to use, so it will be going into my next Amazon order. Very pleased with how they sound together, just have to figure out what my receiver has been smoking... it made some very questionable decisions during auto-setup tongue.gif
post #2012 of 2776
I can't find the person who bought a PSA-XV15 and paired it with the RW-12D. I need to know if they sound well paired or without the RW-12D?

I am considering buying the PSA-XV15, but I also want to keep the RW-12D.
post #2013 of 2776
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I can't find the person who bought a PSA-XV15 and paired it with the RW-12D. I need to know if they sound well paired or without the RW-12D?

I am considering buying the PSA-XV15, but I also want to keep the RW-12D.

eek.gif Not a good idea smile.gif
post #2014 of 2776
It's like having a twin engine plane, one engine having half the horse power of the other engine. Up to the point of the weaker engine being maxed out, all systems are go but once the more powerful engine, overtakes the capabilities of the lesser engine, the flight problems start.

That sort of thing.
post #2015 of 2776
my dayton 1200 and klipsch rw 12d rocks! with my small living room apartment.
post #2016 of 2776
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

It's like having a twin engine plane, one engine having half the horse power of the other engine. Up to the point of the weaker engine being maxed out, all systems are go but once the more powerful engine, overtakes the capabilities of the lesser engine, the flight problems start.

That sort of thing.

Yes! and the consideration of tune.. which can cause cancelations at some freqs, thus causing less spl than what you originally had. All this being said not mentioning SQ.
post #2017 of 2776
Can't add 5 RW-12D's to the cart ... Only 1 left as of now.
post #2018 of 2776
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I can't find the person who bought a PSA-XV15 and paired it with the RW-12D. I need to know if they sound well paired or without the RW-12D?

I am considering buying the PSA-XV15, but I also want to keep the RW-12D.

eek.gif Not a good idea smile.gif

Depends if you're going to use in same room or not perhaps. Every room should have a sub and subs can be kinda hard to sell after you get one depending where you live...so always nice to put them to use.
post #2019 of 2776
Well I'm either going with the PSA-XV15 or getting two more RW-12D.
post #2020 of 2776
3 rw-12d's would have a good bit more output than the xv15's I'd assume, but wouldn't dig quite as low. Are you experiencing any room modes and/or how smooth is the bass in the room where you're listening?
post #2021 of 2776
No. I just want more smooth bass.
post #2022 of 2776
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

No. I just want more smooth bass.
2 more RW12s would probably be your best bet.
post #2023 of 2776
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

2 more RW12s would probably be your best bet.

That will probably be the most inexpensive route too.
post #2024 of 2776
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

That will probably be the most inexpensive route too.

get a xv15 and enjoy some real bass extension smile.gif

think of it like this, 600.00 for two rw12's or 600.00 for one psa xv15 after u sell the rw12. the xv15 will extend deeper, sound better, and have more output than 2 rw12's. then save for another down the road if need be.
post #2025 of 2776
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

That will probably be the most inexpensive route too.

Agreeing with basshead81 when I post; there is no inexpensive route. I've found that's the conundrum of folks looking for satisfaction in subwoofers. They're looking for $5k worth of subwoofer satisfaction in a $500.00 package and it ain't gonna happen. In the case of subwoofers, you're either in for the "Full Monte" or you're in for compromise and dissatisfaction. There's no middle ground.

Which is it going be, compromise and dissatisfaction or crater the budget and go for it? In real terms, in a nutshell, those are our choices.

If you're about compromise and willing to live with mediocrity, then go with two more RW-12d's and understand, you've sold yourself short. We have three RW-12d's. And if not, buy one LV12R, with an eye on purchasing two more in the near future or step up to a PSA, XS15 with an eye on two more and make your bass loving soul a happy man........or you can buy two RW-12d's and be an unhappy man, wishing you have stepped up.

Yes, when I post my above, I know, if like me, it's all about the Benjamins. I'm posting sage advice based on personal buying experience of buying RW-12d's, EQ gear and measuring equipment and sharing the wisdom of this buying experience so please don't be mad at me for my above.

We have Audyssey, MultEQ XT, Anti-Mode, 8033S II and my next EQ toy is going be an miniDSP, 2X4. The point, I'm going through the consumer based learning curve so you don't have to. Money is limited on our end but like everybody else, I need toys and entertainment so instead of cruises, spas and bass boats, I'm playing with subwoofers.

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post #2026 of 2776
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Agreeing with basshead81 when I post; there is no inexpensive route. I've found that's the conundrum of folks looking for satisfaction in subwoofers. They're looking for $5k worth of subwoofer satisfaction in a $500.00 package and it ain't gonna happen. In the case of subwoofers, you're either in for the "Full Monte" or you're in for compromise and dissatisfaction. There's no middle ground.

Which is it going be, compromise and dissatisfaction or crater the budget and go for it? In real terms, in a nutshell, those are our choices.

If you're about compromise and willing to live with mediocrity, then go with two more RW-12d's and understand, you've sold yourself short. We have three RW-12d's. And if not, buy one LV12R, with an eye on purchasing two more in the near future or step up to a PSA, XS15 with an eye on two more and make your bass loving soul a happy man........or you can buy two RW-12d's and be an unhappy man, wishing you have stepped up.

Yes, when I post my above, I know, if like me, it's all about the Benjamins. I'm posting sage advice based on personal buying experience of buying RW-12d's, EQ gear and measuring equipment and sharing the wisdom of this buying experience so please don't be mad at me for my above.

We have Audyssey, MultEQ XT, Anti-Mode, 8033S II and my next EQ toy is going be an miniDSP, 2X4. The point, I'm going through the consumer based learning curve so you don't have to. Money is limited on our end but like everybody else, I need toys and entertainment so instead of cruises, spas and bass boats, I'm playing with subwoofers.

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Yes agreed...and my post was not to put the rw12 down at all. I only said what I said because Gus has been contemplating PSA's line of subwoofers for sometime now. I have been down the inexpensive route a few times in the past. Knowing what I know now there is more to a subwoofer then bass and output! I will never take the cheap road out again. I now watch more movies than I ever have because my new subs(xv15's) provide a sonic experience like never before. I had no idea how much LFE I was missing out on. Granted my psw505's were not great for deep extension, there is something to be said about getting good output down into the 14hz range. Also having a sub thats capable of deep extension but also is tight and articulate for music is something I never knew existed until taking the leap of faith and pulling the trigger on a quality ID sub.

Gus, Trust me, do not hesitate to pull the trigger on a xv15 if the funds allow. I almost went the budget route yet again a couple months ago. Luckily for me I joined this forum and was privilidged enough that some really decent members gave me some really good advice....and I absorbed that advice, did alot of research and the picture became clear! 799.00 is a drop in the bucket compared to what that PSA sub or any quality ID sub for that matter will add to your HT experience!!
post #2027 of 2776
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Yes agreed...and my post was not to put the rw12 down at all.

I'm agreeing with you for as an owner of several RW-12d's, even if you have three of them, not putting the RW-12d's down, I can say they're a compromise and leave you wanting more and if that's a concern for a buyer, again, agreeing with you, based on personal experience, with and eye on adding more, in my opinion, the XV15 is a better subwoofer direction/solution then going with Klipsch, RW-12d's.
post #2028 of 2776
Yeah, I see what you guys are saying. I'm just getting tired of trying to save and unfortunate things happen along the way, and I got to use the money for other stuff. It's a never ending story.
post #2029 of 2776
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I'm just getting tired of trying to save and unfortunate things happen along the way, and I got to use the money for other stuff. It's a never ending story.

I hate it when responsibility gets in the way of new toy purchases.

Now, if I only had a winning PowerBall ticket. biggrin.gif

Currently, we're budgeting for a miniDSP, a <$200.00 purchase but hey, it's a new toy and I'm not going complain. cool.gif

To save on money, we don't eat out, we don't go to movies, we limit Sunday drives, I detail and wash our car, hang out on AVS for entertainment, use LED lights to save on electricity, have made special efforts regarding propane use, do all our home repairs and we reseed instead of going with sod.
post #2030 of 2776
Is the Creed LED light bulb worth it?
post #2031 of 2776
Off topic but absolutely we're happy. Literally, we've reduced our electric usage, thirty-eight dollars a month (we're at $0.31 per kWh and we'll pay for our LED light bulb investment of $300.00 in eight months. Originally we figured payback at seven months but added a few more light bulbs which jacked the original investment costs up a bit and put payback out an additional month. Comparing three years worth of utility bills (usage and charges) there's a clear and noticeable affect on our electric utility costs.

We've been using as much LED potential as possible over the last two months so my comments are based on two months worth of utility provided usage data. For the most part, we're a mix of mostly LED, a few CFL where LED won't work and tungsten where neither LED or CFL is going be functionally viable.

We're very happy with both the daylight and tungsten lighting color and I highly encourage everybody to switch from tungsten and CFL over to Cree, LED bulbs when they can. It's green, you get to keep green in the pocket and one will quickly sees a substantial return on their investment as soon as the very next utility bill. Money not going out is money in the pocket.

Cree has been making LED's for years, knows their business and has made LED compatible with home use as payback for each light bulb takes seven or eight months. Expectedly, LED light bulbs will outlast standard tungsten lighting, compared to CFL, doesn't come with mercury related concerns and is much less expensive to purchase than other brands of LED lighting.

If anybody has more questions regarding our LED lighting experience, I'm happy to share. I just ask, please, go to PM so as to keep us on topic.

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 5/25/13 at 10:31am
post #2032 of 2776
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Originally Posted by basshead81 View Post

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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

Agreeing with basshead81 when I post; there is no inexpensive route. I've found that's the conundrum of folks looking for satisfaction in subwoofers. They're looking for $5k worth of subwoofer satisfaction in a $500.00 package and it ain't gonna happen. In the case of subwoofers, you're either in for the "Full Monte" or you're in for compromise and dissatisfaction. There's no middle ground.

Which is it going be, compromise and dissatisfaction or crater the budget and go for it? In real terms, in a nutshell, those are our choices.

If you're about compromise and willing to live with mediocrity, then go with two more RW-12d's and understand, you've sold yourself short. We have three RW-12d's. And if not, buy one LV12R, with an eye on purchasing two more in the near future or step up to a PSA, XS15 with an eye on two more and make your bass loving soul a happy man........or you can buy two RW-12d's and be an unhappy man, wishing you have stepped up.

Yes, when I post my above, I know, if like me, it's all about the Benjamins. I'm posting sage advice based on personal buying experience of buying RW-12d's, EQ gear and measuring equipment and sharing the wisdom of this buying experience so please don't be mad at me for my above.

We have Audyssey, MultEQ XT, Anti-Mode, 8033S II and my next EQ toy is going be an miniDSP, 2X4. The point, I'm going through the consumer based learning curve so you don't have to. Money is limited on our end but like everybody else, I need toys and entertainment so instead of cruises, spas and bass boats, I'm playing with subwoofers.

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Yes agreed...and my post was not to put the rw12 down at all. I only said what I said because Gus has been contemplating PSA's line of subwoofers for sometime now. I have been down the inexpensive route a few times in the past. Knowing what I know now there is more to a subwoofer then bass and output! I will never take the cheap road out again. I now watch more movies than I ever have because my new subs(xv15's) provide a sonic experience like never before. I had no idea how much LFE I was missing out on. Granted my psw505's were not great for deep extension, there is something to be said about getting good output down into the 14hz range. Also having a sub thats capable of deep extension but also is tight and articulate for music is something I never knew existed until taking the leap of faith and pulling the trigger on a quality ID sub.

Gus, Trust me, do not hesitate to pull the trigger on a xv15 if the funds allow. I almost went the budget route yet again a couple months ago. Luckily for me I joined this forum and was privilidged enough that some really decent members gave me some really good advice....and I absorbed that advice, did alot of research and the picture became clear! 799.00 is a drop in the bucket compared to what that PSA sub or any quality ID sub for that matter will add to your HT experience!!

But then why start with the middle of the road PSA? And only one of them? Still won't get the room response benefits three RW12ds can provide with a single XV15. At least a pair of XS30s but they still don't keep up with something like a pair of Submersive HPs or Captivators...oh, the humanity! smile.gif
post #2033 of 2776
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

But then why start with the middle of the road PSA? And only one of them? Still won't get the room response benefits three RW12ds can provide with a single XV15.

In the sense of output, yes, you're right but in depth of extension, that's a different story. But going with a middle of the road PSA is a start in the right direction and one additional subwoofer at a time, can be added to later.....or buy three RW-12d's and be stuck with having to sell and upgrade from three RW-12d's which is where we're at. Boo-hoo us. cool.gif

As it is, when the money comes around so we can start upgrading our subwoofer system, it's going be done, one subwoofer at a time and then we have to figure out what to do with the old subwoofers as I'm not a big fan of dealing with resale issues.
post #2034 of 2776
/delete...not even going there.
Edited by basshead81 - 5/25/13 at 6:01pm
post #2035 of 2776
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post


In the sense of output, yes, you're right but in depth of extension, that's a different story. But going with a middle of the road PSA is a start in the right direction and one additional subwoofer at a time, can be added to later.....or buy three RW-12d's and be stuck with having to sell and upgrade from three RW-12d's which is where we're at. Boo-hoo us. cool.gif
 

+1. 

 

Even though three RW-12d's will get you a smoother response, upgradeitus is a lot more contagious with the Klipsch's. I'd go with the middle of the road PSA.

post #2036 of 2776
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Originally Posted by dominguez1 View Post

Even though three RW-12d's will get you a smoother response, upgradeitus is a lot more contagious with the Klipsch's. I'd go with the middle of the road PSA.

And when I get done figuring out how it all works, I want to leapfrog the LV12R's into something like a set of PSA, XS15's but first, I gotta figure out how it all works. Gives us time to work on finding all the Benjamins....tongue.gif

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Edited by BeeMan458 - 5/25/13 at 8:21pm
post #2037 of 2776
If I ever quit buying used Klipsch loudSpeakers off of * List long enough, I'd like to buy up to 6 of these.

To paraphrase "best is the enemy of good enough".
post #2038 of 2776
and again, it is discontinued again at newegg website.
post #2039 of 2776
Doesn't even show on their site any more. Maybe that warehouse is finally cleared out.
post #2040 of 2776
Well, maybe it's all over for the RW-12Ds. I'm still enjoying the two I bought for $560 off Newegg with no regrets.
Happy with the value and the performance of these subs and not considering replacing them anytime soon.
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