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post #391 of 1961
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Originally Posted by Kab00sE View Post

so what would you get, the klipsch rw-12-d or the pl-200 if they were about the same price?
The rw has a digital display with built in eq, you can control it with a remote and most importantly it is 100 more watts rms. No brainer for me.
Oh, and also as much as I like Bic, they're not Klipsch.
post #392 of 1961
buddy is taking one of my old subs so I will be running on one sub for a while, perhaps the wife will be ok with it but more likely than not, she's going to be missing something. I think it's at that point that I should strike but I might lose out on the price though. Ugh.

I'm been down this road before. I have an eD something or other. I forgot the model and I'm ready to jump into the next level which would be in the $800 range but I wouldn't mind staying in the $300 if I'll get $800+ performance.
post #393 of 1961
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Originally Posted by mikeloxlong View Post

buddy is taking one of my old subs so I will be running on one sub for a while, perhaps the wife will be ok with it but more likely than not, she's going to be missing something. I think it's at that point that I should strike but I might lose out on the price though. Ugh.

I'm been down this road before. I have an eD something or other. I forgot the model and I'm ready to jump into the next level which would be in the $800 range but I wouldn't mind staying in the $300 if I'll get $800+ performance.

Not going to happen. It's comparing a RW-12d to an XV15. Not even close. If I could get XV-15 performance for 3 bills I'd have subs all over the place.
post #394 of 1961
i just bought $299.99 at newegg the klipsch.
post #395 of 1961
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Originally Posted by fredwi View Post

i just bought $299.99 at newegg the klipsch.

OH NO...maybe I need a 4th !!

post #396 of 1961
Sounds like a good deal. If I didn't already have 7 subwoofers, I would have bought one. smile.gif
post #397 of 1961
I bought two KLipsch rw 12d the last time they were 299 a couple of weeks ago. One of them arrived damaged . It had something bouncing around in it when I picked it up. I returned it to newegg and they charged me $75 to ship it back!! Do I have a leg to stand on in fighting this shipping fee? The damage was no fault of my own, why should I pay a return fee? Besides, it's no longer the deal it was before after adding $75 to the cost. What do you guys think about this? Should I call and fight it?
post #398 of 1961
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Originally Posted by jeld View Post

I bought two KLipsch rw 12d the last time they were 299 a couple of weeks ago. One of them arrived damaged . It had something bouncing around in it when I picked it up. I returned it to newegg and they charged me $75 to ship it back!! Do I have a leg to stand on in fighting this shipping fee? The damage was no fault of my own, why should I pay a return fee? Besides, it's no longer the deal it was before after adding $75 to the cost. What do you guys think about this? Should I call and fight it?

Read their return policy. If it says you have to pay for return shipping on a defective item you're screwed. Never hurts to call and beg for mercy. With amazon you don't have to pay for it but then their price is never that low for that sub.
post #399 of 1961
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post



As to the playoffs and the Superbowl, Seattle got robbed at the end of the going into double overtime with the whistle blowing the ball dead and a second field goal kick. Nobody has ever said why the whistle blew the ball dead and none of the rewinds I've seen include the fact that the game winning kick was a second chance kick that never should have happened. Seattle got robbed. tongue.gif

Pete Carroll called a time out before the kick, thus giving the kicker another chance at making a game winning kick.
post #400 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

Pete Carroll called a time out before the kick, thus giving the kicker another chance at making a game winning kick.

Yep, I saw the video. You could clearly read his lips saying time out. By rule the kicker was not supposed to kick the ball but there is no penalty for it. So he was smart and took a practice kick.
post #401 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

Pete Carroll called a time out before the kick, thus giving the kicker another chance at making a game winning kick.

Thanks. Totally missed this as the announcers commented how they didn't have a clue who or why the ball was whistled dead but they also commented that if you get the chance for a practice kick, you're considered a fool not to go for it.

(Seattle was robbed and SF now has an away game. That free kick totally changed the dynamics of the Super Bowl brackets.)
post #402 of 1961
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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

I was wrong about the packaging costs. Congratulations on the reward of yours and everybody's patience. biggrin.gif

The Superbowl is a unique cultural phenomenon in America today. It doesn't matter your if your team is in the Super Bowl or not, ti's "PARTY!" time and it's a sporting event made for big screen T.V's and subwoofers.

The question becomes, not who's in the Super Bowl but "What are you going do Super Bowl Sunday?" It's a given there will be two of the best qualified teams playing that day. On Super Bowl Sunday, the nation will rock!

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49'ers vs. Patriots

Final score: Patriots 31 49'ers 28
post #403 of 1961
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Originally Posted by jeld View Post

I bought two KLipsch rw 12d the last time they were 299 a couple of weeks ago. One of them arrived damaged . It had something bouncing around in it when I picked it up. I returned it to newegg and they charged me $75 to ship it back!! Do I have a leg to stand on in fighting this shipping fee? The damage was no fault of my own, why should I pay a return fee? Besides, it's no longer the deal it was before after adding $75 to the cost. What do you guys think about this? Should I call and fight it?

I would definetly call and speak to someone. They were going to have me ship one of mine back because it was missing a power cord. On their dime, then ship me another new one.
post #404 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

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Originally Posted by BeeMan458 View Post

I was wrong about the packaging costs. Congratulations on the reward of yours and everybody's patience. biggrin.gif

The Superbowl is a unique cultural phenomenon in America today. It doesn't matter your if your team is in the Super Bowl or not, ti's "PARTY!" time and it's a sporting event made for big screen T.V's and subwoofers.

The question becomes, not who's in the Super Bowl but "What are you going do Super Bowl Sunday?" It's a given there will be two of the best qualified teams playing that day. On Super Bowl Sunday, the nation will rock!

-

49'ers vs. Patriots

Final score: Patriots 31 49'ers 28

No way we're gonna kick their butt (if they make it) even worse than earlier this year! NINERS! smile.gif Altho I'm actually hoping it'll be a Harbaugh bro rematch. First, Atlanta.
post #405 of 1961
Guys, please. There's another area to talk football...........Go niners.biggrin.gif
post #406 of 1961
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Originally Posted by THE_DEAN_001 View Post

Just to note...I have temporarily used the Bic F12 before and thought it was really nice.

If the RW 12 is just a little bit better, I'll be happy.

The RW-12d is FAR superior.
post #407 of 1961
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Originally Posted by blake18 View Post

The RW-12d is FAR superior.

The RW-12d suffers from not being musically accurate, port cuffing and boominess.

Your better off spending a little more money and getting a "real" subwoofer, like the HSU VTF-3 HO.
post #408 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

Your better off spending a little more money and getting a "real" subwoofer, like the HSU VTF-3 HO.

Not to split hairs but my understanding, one can't buy the VTF-3HO anymore and it's been supplanted by the VTF-3 Mk IV which sells for $700.00/$800.00 (depending on finish) vs $300.00 for the RW-12d.

The point, not criticizing your above comment, just saying, these are two different classes of subwoofers.
post #409 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

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Originally Posted by blake18 View Post

The RW-12d is FAR superior.

The RW-12d suffers from not being musically accurate, port cuffing and boominess.

Your better off spending a little more money and getting a "real" subwoofer, like the HSU VTF-3 HO.

I think it's still somewhat about budget and expectations. For $300 the RW12d is a very nice sub and worth it over the BIC offerings IMHO. That HSU is nice but no longer available either if I read the site correctly, and if the same as the VTF3 Mk4, then for $700 it should definitely be a better sub. But for $700 I'd save a bit more and get the VTF15 if I were going to go Hsu.

I don't find a big accuracy issue...you saying the Klipsch is accurate for only movies? smile.gif I haven't had any port chuffing (but haven't tried, either) nor find it particularly boomy.. Especially for $300.
post #410 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

The RW-12d suffers from not being musically accurate, port cuffing and boominess.

Your better off spending a little more money and getting a "real" subwoofer, like the HSU VTF-3 HO.
I am criticizing your comment Captain Obvious. Thanks for letting us know that a sub that costs twice as much will outperform the rw.
post #411 of 1961
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Originally Posted by coolcat4843 View Post

The RW-12d suffers from not being musically accurate, port cuffing and boominess.

Your better off spending a little more money and getting a "real" subwoofer, like the HSU VTF-3 HO.

I completely disagree with you. I have heard the likes of SVS, HSU, sunfire, ect. And while great sounding subs, the Klipsch is no slouch and sounds fantastic. I have two of the RW-12d's and could not be happier. I also have a bic pl-200, which sounds fantastic as well. I do not have the problems you described. I stapled R-13 insulation on the inside of my RW-12d's.
post #412 of 1961
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Originally Posted by blake18 View Post

The RW-12d is FAR superior.

Well, hopefully not 'too far' superior.

I live in an apartment and I'm not sure the people upstairs were all that crazy about the F12.

If what you're saying is true, they're gonna HATE the RW-12d.
post #413 of 1961
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Originally Posted by THE_DEAN_001 View Post

Well, hopefully not 'too far' superior.

I live in an apartment and I'm not sure the people upstairs were all that crazy about the F12.

If what you're saying is true, they're gonna HATE the RW-12d.

You can just turn the volume down.
post #414 of 1961
Any basic hook-up/setting recommendations for this subwoofer?

Input? Volume? EQ?

I'll be using a basic subwoofer cable.

I'm only asking because I have a 'lady friend' scheduled to come over tomorrow(5pm).

That usually right around the same time UPS stops by to drop my stuff off.

I may need to set this thing up real quick for a 'movie' and likely won't have time to read the manual and fine tune it until after she leaves.

Just to note...I'm running it with a pair of Polk Monitor 70 series ii fronts, Polk CS2 Center, 2 Polk Monitor 30 surrounds, and a Yamaha RX-V565 receiver.

Thanks.
post #415 of 1961
This is only temporary but should sound pretty good.
Hook cable to right RCA.
Set ALL speakers to SMALL in the receiver.
Set crossover to 80 and sub volume to 0 in the 565.
Set the RW12 volume to -5 and Lowpass all the way up until it says "lfe mode". EQ mode to Depth. Phase to 0.
Edited by Bond 007 - 1/20/13 at 8:31am
post #416 of 1961
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

This is only temporary but should sound pretty good.
Hook cable to right RCA.
Set ALL speakers to SMALL in the receiver.
Set crossover to 80 and sub volume to 0 in the 565.
Set the RW12 volume to -5 and Lowpass all the way up until it says "lfe mode". EQ mode to Depth. Phase to 0.

Thanks Bond 007...that's exactly what I was looking for.

I've already got the speakers set to 'small' and the crossover @ 80.

I'll set the rest up as described once it shows up since my 'date' might be popping in right about the same time.

Thanks again.
post #417 of 1961
yw Good luck. smile.gif
post #418 of 1961
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

This is only temporary but should sound pretty good.
Hook cable to right RCA.
Set ALL speakers to SMALL in the receiver.
Set crossover to 80 and sub volume to 0 in the 565.
Set the RW12 volume to -5 and Lowpass all the way up until it says "lfe mode". EQ mode to Depth. Phase to 0.

Interesting, I didn't even know about "lfe mode" on the LPF setting, since the manual doesn't mention that; I just set mine to 120hz for LFE bandwidth, what's the difference in setting it to "off/lfe mode'?
If I set volume on mine at -5 it is LOUD compared to the speakers in that setup, and that's with fairly inefficient speakers for mains (83db), so it's set at 14/15/16 depending on material (having that remote adjustment ability is very nice).
post #419 of 1961
No clue what the difference is exactly with lfe mode. Just seems like the proper way to go for movies. I dont use it for 2 channel music. I set it at 100 for music. I knew -5 would probably be loud but he can turn it down if it bothers him. I figured that's better than telling him -12 and maybe wondering why he can't hear it. Its only temporary settings anyway.
post #420 of 1961
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

No clue what the difference is exactly with lfe mode. Just seems like the proper way to go for movies. I dont use it for 2 channel music. I set it at 100 for music. I knew -5 would probably be loud but he can turn it down if it bothers him. I figured that's better than telling him -12 and maybe wondering why he can't hear it. Its only temporary settings anyway.

I also checked the manual that came with it vs the one I downloaded and they're slightly different, I really hadn't noticed before as most of it reads the same. I'll see if I can tell a difference but since LFE should be 3-120hz range, it should be good either way. I'll look around.

It just hadn't occurred to me how big a difference in sub playback level matching your mains make in setting sub volume, altho it does make sense...or maybe your avr output level and input sensitivity on the Klipsch come into play too. I may be spoiled by auto setup routines in my newer avr's; the 5.1 avr I'm using in the bedroom hasn't got any room correction software nor a db level to measure to start to set speakers (well, at least not spec'd as to what level it plays the test tones at). I'll have to spend some time with the Omnimic down there to see if I can make more sense of that.
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