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post #421 of 2210
1/21/13 at 5:54am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

This is only temporary but should sound pretty good.
Hook cable to right RCA.
Set ALL speakers to SMALL in the receiver.
Set crossover to 80 and sub volume to 0 in the 565.
Set the RW12 volume to -5 and Lowpass all the way up until it says "lfe mode". EQ mode to Depth. Phase to 0.

 

So I gotta ask..I thought the LEFT RCA IN was the preferred method....although I think it really does not matter, just seems like my head has LEFT stuck in it?  Any difference, is RIGHT really the correct INPUT ?

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post #422 of 2210
1/21/13 at 5:58am
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Any difference, is RIGHT really the correct INPUT ?
According to the RW-12d owner's manual:
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“LINE IN” -This input is designed as the standard or default input for the subwoofer. It accepts signals from the Left and
Right channel pre-amp, subwoofer or LFE outputs of your electronics via the RCA jack inputs. Connect to the “RIGHT” and/or “LEFT/LFE” inputs on the subwoofer’s rear panel ...
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post #423 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:33am

Ok, so it does not really matter - cool!

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post #424 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:41am
It kind of reads that 'LEFT' is the "LFE" input but I'm guessing it actually means that either "RIGHT" or "LEFT" are acceptable.

Either way, my date is rescheduled for tomorrow.

That means I can fiddle with it a bit and throw in a couple blu rays tonight to try it out.

I'll let everyone know how I think it compares to the BIC F12.

I'm currently using a Polk PSW110 but I won't bother comparing those two because if the Klipsch doesn't sound much better than that...I'll have to assume it's broke.
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post #425 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:42am
I have mine set to LFE/off, phase at 0 and a sub volume of -16.
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post #426 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:43am
Just to note...it's 'Out For Delivery' right now.

Unfortunately, UPS usually doesn't stop by my place until dark.

It appears I'm usually the last stop of the day=)
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post #427 of 2210
1/21/13 at 9:28am
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Originally Posted by skidog View Post

I have mine set to LFE/off, phase at 0 and a sub volume of -16.
I think you mean Lowpass off. Which is the same as Lfe Mode. Lfe off would be everything between 120 and 40.
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post #428 of 2210
1/21/13 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by skidog View Post

I have mine set to LFE/off, phase at 0 and a sub volume of -16.

I guess this is do you mean.
LOWPASS OFF
LFE Mode (on)
And this is must to be set on the sub.
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post #429 of 2210
1/21/13 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by av addiction View Post

I guess this is do you mean.
LOWPASS OFF
LFE Mode (on)
And this is must to be set on the sub.
That is recommended for theatre.
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post #430 of 2210
1/21/13 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

This is only temporary but should sound pretty good.
Hook cable to right RCA.
Set ALL speakers to SMALL in the receiver.
Set crossover to 80 and sub volume to 0 in the 565.
Set the RW12 volume to -5 and Lowpass all the way up until it says "lfe mode". EQ mode to Depth. Phase to 0.

Okay, just received it about a half an hour ago and started off with Bond's settings.

Listening to a couple CD's right now.
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post #431 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:29pm
So far...the Klipsch RW-12d seems to be a nice upgrade over the BIC F12 during music.

With the BIC F12, the Polk Monitor 70's and CS2 seemed to be doing most of the work with the BIC F12 kind of just 'chiming in' here and there.

The Klipsch RW-12d, in contrast, really fills the room from the floor up with music.

With the Klipsch...it was almost like listening to the music on an entirely new sound system.

Very nice upgrade.

For movies...I threw in "UP!" and just kind of had it playing in the background while I did some work.

I can't really say how it compares to the BIC F12 for home theater yet.

I've got 'The Last Samurai' somewhere on blu ray...I'm going to throw that in and see how it does on an action movie.

This is where the BIC F12 excelled. It could really hit 'low' and rattle the walls.

It should be interesting to see if the Klipsch can beat it.
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post #432 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by THE_DEAN_001 View Post

So far...the Klipsch RW-12d seems to be a nice upgrade over the BIC F12 during music.

With the BIC F12, the Polk Monitor 70's and CS2 seemed to be doing most of the work with the BIC F12 kind of just 'chiming in' here and there.

The Klipsch RW-12d, in contrast, really fills the room from the floor up with music.

With the Klipsch...it was almost like listening to the music on an entirely new sound system.

Very nice upgrade.

For movies...I threw in "UP!" and just kind of had it playing in the background while I did some work.

I can't really say how it compares to the BIC F12 for home theater yet.

I've got 'The Last Samurai' somewhere on blu ray...I'm going to throw that in and see how it does on an action movie.

This is where the BIC F12 excelled. It could really hit 'low' and rattle the walls.

It should be interesting to see if the Klipsch can beat it.

Great post..let us know how it does in Movies...always interesting to know if we made the right choice  eek.gif

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post #433 of 2210
1/21/13 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by THE_DEAN_001 View Post

So far...the Klipsch RW-12d seems to be a nice upgrade over the BIC F12 during music.


With the BIC F12, the Polk Monitor 70's and CS2 seemed to be doing most of the work with the BIC F12 kind of just 'chiming in' here and there.


The Klipsch RW-12d, in contrast, really fills the room from the floor up with music.


With the Klipsch...it was almost like listening to the music on an entirely new sound system.


Very nice upgrade.


For movies...I threw in "UP!" and just kind of had it playing in the background while I did some work.


I can't really say how it compares to the BIC F12 for home theater yet.


I've got 'The Last Samurai' somewhere on blu ray...I'm going to throw that in and see how it does on an action movie.


This is where the BIC F12 excelled. It could really hit 'low' and rattle the walls.


It should be interesting to see if the Klipsch can beat it.
Great post..let us know how it does in Movies...always interesting to know if we made the right choice  eek.gif

Yes, please report back but perhaps try something from this thread for a sub exercise if you can http://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-chartshttp://www.avsforum.com/t/1333462/the-new-master-list-of-bass-in-movies-with-frequency-charts
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post #434 of 2210
1/22/13 at 7:25am
I'm looking at getting an F12 for my brothers HT setup of Def tech promonitor 1000 fronts and center and 800 surround. If this RW-12 is better, especially for music, I will opt to get it over the F12! Great thread and thanks for all the info! smile.gif
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post #435 of 2210
1/22/13 at 9:23am
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I'm looking at getting an F12 for my brothers HT setup of Def tech promonitor 1000 fronts and center and 800 surround. If this RW-12 is better, especially for music, I will opt to get it over the F12! Great thread and thanks for all the info! smile.gif

You might have to give me another day or two to form an opinion.

On 'The Last Samurai', my impression was that the Klipsch sounded very good but not noticeably better than the BIC F12.

BUT...

It was recommend I subwoofer volume on the receiver down all the way.

I just put another CD in, was kind of disappointed.

So I tried turning the subwoofer volume on the receiver back up to where it was before(just over half way) and can hear more bass now.

I have 'How To Train Your Dragon' which receiver fives starts on the movie BASS list that was posted above.

I'll throw that in later and give it another show with the new receiver settings.
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post #436 of 2210
1/22/13 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by THE_DEAN_001 View Post

You might have to give me another day or two to form an opinion.

On 'The Last Samurai', my impression was that the Klipsch sounded very good but not noticeably better than the BIC F12.

BUT...

It was recommend I subwoofer volume on the receiver down all the way.

I just put another CD in, was kind of disappointed.

So I tried turning the subwoofer volume on the receiver back up to where it was before(just over half way) and can hear more bass now.

I have 'How To Train Your Dragon' which receiver fives starts on the movie BASS list that was posted above.

I'll throw that in later and give it another show with the new receiver settings.

I'll be looking forward to your results!
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post #437 of 2210
1/22/13 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by GrooveRite View Post

I'm looking at getting an F12 for my brothers HT setup of Def tech promonitor 1000 fronts and center and 800 surround. If this RW-12 is better, especially for music, I will opt to get it over the F12! Great thread and thanks for all the info! smile.gif
I have both. The RW is worth the extra money if you can get it for $300.
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post #438 of 2210
1/22/13 at 11:40am
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Originally Posted by waltah View Post

roger that, thanks.

hope this isnt "too good to be true". $300 for a $1000(retail) sub seems crazy...

The average markup for speakers is quite high. According to my son who works for a large big box retailer, the difference between "employee cost" and retail customer cost is at minimum, a 50-60% difference.

So if xx brand is retail priced at $1000, his employee purchase price is $400. The company is still making money on the sale.
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post #439 of 2210
1/22/13 at 12:52pm
to hear differences between the rw12 and the f12, choose movies and/or music with very low bass. that should show you the advantages the rw12 has over the f12
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post #440 of 2210
1/22/13 at 2:37pm
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to hear differences between the rw12 and the f12, choose movies and/or music with very low bass. that should show you the advantages the rw12 has over the f12
Maybe with movies you need very low bass. I have both right now and with any music the RW easily outshines the F12.
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post #441 of 2210
1/22/13 at 9:56pm
how does rw12 compare to STF-2???
anybody compared over these two?
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post #442 of 2210
1/22/13 at 10:15pm
The Klipsch will dig deeper and achieve higher spl from what I've seen, but no experience with direct comparison myself.
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post #443 of 2210
1/22/13 at 10:27pm
yeah, I see individuals upgrade to rw-12d and SFT-2 but seldom see direct comparison on these two
perhaps different applications?
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post #444 of 2210
1/22/13 at 10:33pm
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Originally Posted by Toolate0789 View Post

yeah, I see individuals upgrade to rw-12d and SFT-2 but seldom see direct comparison on these two
perhaps different applications?

I think bond007 has had both, maybe he will chime in
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post #445 of 2210
1/23/13 at 3:31am
Yes. I have had both. loveinthehd pretty much covered it. I much prefer the RW. The stf2 was perhaps a little more accurate but didnt go as low as the RW and provided about the same output as my Bic F12. I think the best application for the stf2 would be in a bedroom for someone who listens mostly to music. Overall its just not worth the money to me. I already had the F12 and I was disappointed enough in the stf2 to pay $67 to return it if that tells you anything.
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post #446 of 2210
1/23/13 at 6:49am
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

I have both. The RW is worth the extra money if you can get it for $300.

Thanks Bond! I now have the RW in the $300 price range thanks to you! smile.gif

Well, I did some more reading and researching last night here in this wonderful site and came across ShadyJ's post/list of subs at every price point and thanks to him, I now also have my eyes set on the PA-150. Bond, have you had any experience with this sub by any chance and how does it compare to the RW? Looks like its a monster and can supposedly be had for $350! I swear, the more I read, the more lost/confused I get, lol!
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post #447 of 2210
1/23/13 at 6:55am
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Originally Posted by GrooveRite View Post

Thanks Bond! I now have the RW in the $300 price range thanks to you! smile.gif

Well, I did some more reading and researching last night here in this wonderful site and came across ShadyJ's post/list of subs at every price point and thanks to him, I now also have my eyes set on the PA-150. Bond, have you had any experience with this sub by any chance and how does it compare to the RW? Looks like its a monster and can supposedly be had for $350! I swear, the more I read, the more lost/confused I get, lol!
I don't have any personal experience with the pa150. That and the Bic pl200 are often the 3 most compared in that price range.
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post #448 of 2210
1/23/13 at 7:16am
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

I don't find a big accuracy issue...you saying the Klipsch is accurate for only movies? smile.gif I haven't had any port chuffing (but haven't tried, either) nor find it particularly boomy.. Especially for $300.

I gotta agree with this. Since Coolcat hasn't tested these himself he shouldn't be giving advice on them. Sure he has read reviews, but honestly mine has no port chuffing at all. Doesn't sound boomy, in fact mine sounds extremely tight when it needs to be. Even sounds very acceptable for music. For the price you can't go wrong.
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post #449 of 2210
1/23/13 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by GrooveRite View Post

Thanks Bond! I now have the RW in the $300 price range thanks to you! smile.gif

Well, I did some more reading and researching last night here in this wonderful site and came across ShadyJ's post/list of subs at every price point and thanks to him, I now also have my eyes set on the PA-150. Bond, have you had any experience with this sub by any chance and how does it compare to the RW? Looks like its a monster and can supposedly be had for $350! I swear, the more I read, the more lost/confused I get, lol!

From what I remember when I was doing research before I bought dual rw12s, the pa150 will play louder, but the rw will extend lower. A user named archea tested dual rws and they extended down to about 24hz, awfully good for a $300 sub. During bass sweeps, I know my subs work well because when you get to the low stuff when it's below human hearing they rattle doors against the door frames, which I fixed with some rubber stickies. They are loud too, I have to keep them turned down so they don't overpower everything else
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post #450 of 2210
1/23/13 at 7:30am
I googled rubber stickies and didnt come up with anything. Are those standard or metric?
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