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post #751 of 2032
2/20/13 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by joe801 View Post

Best bang for your buck sub also belongs to the bic pl2000. I've had a chance to demo both. Honestly rw-12 is a great sub. But it's not the best sub at $300
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post #752 of 2032
2/20/13 at 7:43pm
ljn21, I would look at the build quality of the subs you have in mind. All three will do the job for home theater as far as sound goes.

Al
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post #753 of 2032
2/20/13 at 8:01pm
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haha, how embarrassing. Thank you fixed.
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post #754 of 2032
2/20/13 at 10:46pm
Great point joe, the BIC is very very close to the Klipsch in quality and output. I do actually own both subs, and I do think the Klipsch is the better sub. You really couldn't go wrong with either.
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post #755 of 2032
2/21/13 at 9:24am
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Great point joe, the BIC is very very close to the Klipsch in quality and output. I do actually own both subs, and I do think the Klipsch is the better sub. You really couldn't go wrong with either.

True. The other point to consider is potential resale down the road. You'll likely have much better luck recouping max value out of a big name like Klipsch over a pretty unknown name like BIC. With all the various specialty sub companies like BIC, most people on Craisgslist won't have ever heard of them unless they were specifically researching them. Whereas just about everyone recognizes the name Klipsch.
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post #756 of 2032
2/21/13 at 9:34am
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So, you have read 747 posts in this Klipsch (not Cadence or Lava) sub thread, and you still have not decided, and you are asking us whether we would confirm your lean toward purchasing the Cadence sub instead of the Klipsch sub in the title of this thread?

Let me simplify the 747 posts you just read  . . . The Klipsch RW-12D is the best bang for the buck for a 12" sub out there for $299!!!!!!!

Every Cadence owner should sell their sub and buy the Klipsch RW-12D!!!!

Have I auditioned a Cadence sub in a room in a side-by-side comparison with a Klipsch RW-12D?  No.  I don't need to.  I am too busy enjoying the amazing thump from my RW-12D right now than trying to figure out if a different similarly priced sub could be better . . . 

Questions?

I would call a "troll alert" here, except you only have 14 posts.  Which means, you are paralyzed, thinking you might make the wrong decision.  We have all been there early on as we learned.

Seriously, at this point, pull the trigger on one so you can enjoy any thump in music and movies, since your other one got destroyed in the move.

You cannot go wrong with the RW-12d.  Mine is set between a pair of La Scalas.  And I am very pleased with the sub.

All he best in your decision.

1. Troll? Hardly. Lurker, yes. Researcher, absolutely. Cheapskate, ask my wife.
2. Yes, I read every post in 25, now 26 pages and still cant make up my mind. Why? Because I scoured as much info on the Cadence and Lava as possible as well. There is so much conflicting information in all three cases - half haters, half lovers. What I am really trying to do is weed out the internet review bias, ie, more people tend to post negative reviews than positive reviews online - think about all of the things you bought or spent money on in th elast 12 months (oustide of bills) - how many things did you buy that you loved - did you post reviews online of them? How many things did you buy that you regretted, did you post reviews? I bought myself my dream car as part of my job change - a 2013 GT500, love every minute behind the wheel, before today never posted that online, but after 2 days of owning it and a trim piece around the cupholder came loose, I belted out my dissatisfaction on the web. My point - lots of posts in this talk about loose ports, rattles, etc. - is that just the internet affect and is really just a small percentage of owners? Or would I buy the RW and have my OCD crush my HT experience.
3. Not necessarily paralyzed but close - I am always looking for the diamond in the rough and a good deal to boot. You are right, I probably just need to pull the trigger on one and move on.

Sorry I asked for opinions. Guess I will stick to just lurking.
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post #757 of 2032
2/21/13 at 9:35am
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Originally Posted by Angler55 View Post

ljn21, I would look at the build quality of the subs you have in mind. All three will do the job for home theater as far as sound goes.

Al

Thanks for the advice. I should have put in my original (non-troll) post for opinions - my usage is 50% music, 50% HT, does that influence the recommendations at all?
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post #758 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:00am
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Thanks for the advice. I should have put in my original (non-troll) post for opinions - my usage is 50% music, 50% HT, does that influence the recommendations at all?

One thing I've found after many tedious hours of research for many topics, is it's nearly impossible to get truly unbiased opinions on forums like this, and even when people do provide unbiased opinions, it's difficult to distinguish them from biased ones. Especially when you are on a topic like this that is specific to one product (such as RW-12D). You'll either find people who love them no matter what, or people who hate them no matter what, along with a few unbiased posts along the way.

For example, I've been comparing Yamaha vs Pioneer Elite, and if you are on a Pioneer Elite specific forum most of the people there love them no matter what and would never choose something else. So it's pointless to ask them if the Yamaha would be better as no matter what they'll always say Pioneer. Just food for thought.

Personally I like the RW-12D and am satisfied with it's performance at the $299 price point, however I've never owned any other brands. Most people on here have confirmed that at $299, you will more then likely be happy with the RW-12D as it's hard to beat value wise at $299. If you are wondering whether you'll like one of those other subs better, that's going to be tough to get an unbiased opinion on. So you can take people's comments as part of your decision making, but at the end of the day you'll likely want to listen to each if you can and make the decision for yourself.

I also want confirmation from others that I'm making the right decision, but what I've found is it's nearly impossible to get truly unbiased opinions on forums to confirm you're making the right decision. At the end of the day, you'll need to make your own decision and live with it, and can't rely on opinions as anything more then info you use to make your decision. Don't solely base your decision on the opinions of others in other words.
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post #759 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:03am
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Great point joe, the BIC is very very close to the Klipsch in quality and output. I do actually own both subs, and I do think the Klipsch is the better sub. You really couldn't go wrong with either.

Could you give me some feedback as to why you prefer the Klipsch over the BIC? Just curious for my own upcoming purchase.
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post #760 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by joe801 View Post

Best bang for your buck sub also belongs to the bic pl200. I've had a chance to demo both. Honestly rw-12 is a great sub. But it's not the best sub at $300

Is the PL200 discontinued as well? I see that it is well below MSRP. Can I ask why you prefer this sub over the Klipsch?
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post #761 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:21am
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Is the PL200 discontinued as well? I see that it is well below MSRP. Can I ask why you prefer this sub over the Klipsch?
i got it at acoustic sound design for $279. Don't have to wait for a sale. Seems they always throw out that offer. People say klipsch digs deeper. Not true cant even tell the difference. I would pick bic overall for the slightly cheaper price. And no it is not discontinued. Check out acousticsounddesign.com
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post #762 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:29am
I see that the Klipsch RW-12D has about 100 more watts than the BIC PL-200, but the BIC goes down to 22Hz, whereas the Klipsch states 24Hz. I know that you cannot rely on these listed specs, but I am curious about the BIC because of all the port issues with the Klipsch as of late. Does anyone have any more experience with the BIC they can share?
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post #763 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by DustinLH00 View Post

I see that the Klipsch RW-12D has about 100 more watts than the BIC PL-200, but the BIC goes down to 22Hz, whereas the Klipsch states 24Hz. I know that you cannot rely on these listed specs, but I am curious about the BIC because of all the port issues with the Klipsch as of late. Does anyone have any more experience with the BIC they can share?

It's really not that big of an issue IMO. If the port comes loose, you can easily slide it back into place and it will fit in there snug. After about 3-4 days of use after shipping I heard a slight rattle under low frequencies.. I reached my hand into the port opening and felt it wobbling around.. I simply gripped it as best as I could and pulled it back, its been a few months now and it hasnt budged since, and I give this sub a good workout.. if your really worried about it you could easily glue it in place with minimal work, but chances are if it is loose, all you will need to do is put a few fingers or hand inside the port and pull it back into place
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post #764 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:42am
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Originally Posted by bobby2478 View Post

One thing I've found after many tedious hours of research for many topics, is it's nearly impossible to get truly unbiased opinions on forums like this, and even when people do provide unbiased opinions, it's difficult to distinguish them from biased ones. Especially when you are on a topic like this that is specific to one product (such as RW-12D). You'll either find people who love them no matter what, or people who hate them no matter what, along with a few unbiased posts along the way.

For example, I've been comparing Yamaha vs Pioneer Elite, and if you are on a Pioneer Elite specific forum most of the people there love them no matter what and would never choose something else. So it's pointless to ask them if the Yamaha would be better as no matter what they'll always say Pioneer. Just food for thought.

Personally I like the RW-12D and am satisfied with it's performance at the $299 price point, however I've never owned any other brands. Most people on here have confirmed that at $299, you will more then likely be happy with the RW-12D as it's hard to beat value wise at $299. If you are wondering whether you'll like one of those other subs better, that's going to be tough to get an unbiased opinion on. So you can take people's comments as part of your decision making, but at the end of the day you'll likely want to listen to each if you can and make the decision for yourself.

I also want confirmation from others that I'm making the right decision, but what I've found is it's nearly impossible to get truly unbiased opinions on forums to confirm you're making the right decision. At the end of the day, you'll need to make your own decision and live with it, and can't rely on opinions as anything more then info you use to make your decision. Don't solely base your decision on the opinions of others in other words.

Thanks for the perspective and good food for thought. I pulled the trigger on the Cadence over lunch today. One, due to just maybe wanting something different and I kind of like the physical look of it better than the Klipsch and two as silly as it seems, due to the troll comment. If I ever need help with an issue, that type of resonse makes me learing of coming back and asking and knowing my personality, looking at my sub would always remind me of the troll comment. Yes, I have thin skin smile.gif

Yes I posted the question in a dedicated Klipsch thread, yes I stated I was leaning towards a non-Klipsch sub, just seemed silly to start a new post so put it in here.
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post #765 of 2032
2/21/13 at 10:51am
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Thanks for the perspective and good food for thought. I pulled the trigger on the Cadence over lunch today. One, due to just maybe wanting something different and I kind of like the physical look of it better than the Klipsch and two as silly as it seems, due to the troll comment. If I ever need help with an issue, that type of resonse makes me learing of coming back and asking and knowing my personality, looking at my sub would always remind me of the troll comment. Yes, I have thin skin smile.gif

Yes I posted the question in a dedicated Klipsch thread, yes I stated I was leaning towards a non-Klipsch sub, just seemed silly to start a new post so put it in here.

 

You asked for opinions on a dedicated Klipsch RW-12d sale alert thread . . . Glad we helped you make a decision. We will look for your review on a Cadence sub thread and hope it works out for you.

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post #766 of 2032
2/21/13 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by ljn21 View Post

Thanks for the advice. I should have put in my original (non-troll) post for opinions - my usage is 50% music, 50% HT, does that influence the recommendations at all?

There are a couple reviews of the Cadence CSX12 Mark II posted in AVS and two of them that I read said something to the effect that for a budget subwoofer it is surprisingly good with music. Not musical, as no budget sub can be, but good nonetheless. When I was looking for a sub I nearly bought the Cadence because of the "music" thing and also I think it's build quality is better than the Klpsch for less money. I ended up buying a Jamo SUB 650 because I got a good price on it and the Cadence sub can only be connected via LFE input and I wanted something more versatile as far as connections go.
There are other reasons I wouldn't buy the Klipsch sub that are just personal preference things. I think the Cadence and the Jamo (if you can find one) are not only built better but are better looking subs.

I did the same thing you are doing as far as research goes. I read everything I could find and bugged people for different views. The "Budget subwoofers discussion, opinions and questions thread" is a good place for info on budget subwoofers and I spent quite a bit of time reading, keeping up with, and sometimes posting in that thread.

The bottom line is, be happy with what you end up with. That wasn't an easy thing for me but in the end I'm really happy with my subwoofer and I'm glad I made this choice. Would I have been happy with something else like the Klipsch? Well, I just don't know. I do feel I got lucky because even after all the research and searching I did I was still a nervous wreck and didn't know if I made the right choice until I got the sub and used it. Then again, I don't have much money so a subwoofer purchase was no small thing to me.

Al
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post #767 of 2032
2/21/13 at 11:14am
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It's really not that big of an issue IMO. If the port comes loose, you can easily slide it back into place and it will fit in there snug. After about 3-4 days of use after shipping I heard a slight rattle under low frequencies.. I reached my hand into the port opening and felt it wobbling around.. I simply gripped it as best as I could and pulled it back, its been a few months now and it hasnt budged since, and I give this sub a good workout.. if your really worried about it you could easily glue it in place with minimal work, but chances are if it is loose, all you will need to do is put a few fingers or hand inside the port and pull it back into place

Agreed. Plus, if you don't want to mess around with it, you can get a replacement for free from Newegg if you return within the first 30 days and request an RMA and return shipping label. In either case, the "port issue" is something you can get taken care of and won't be an issue going forward. Regardless of how well packaged these subs are, and the RW-12D is VERY WELL PACKAGED, UPS is brutal with all their packages and so it shouldn't be surprising to receive some defective items after UPS has had their hands on them. As someone else posted, special reports have shown UPS drivers literally chucking packages out of the back of their truck. If you drop a 30 lb sub from a height of 4 feet, regardless of how solidly packaged it is, you can expect things to get knocked loose.
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post #768 of 2032
2/21/13 at 3:07pm
I received my RW-12D yesterday from newegg. Port tube was totally disconnected. Noticed that the inner box was upside down...that couldn't help matters, either. Couldn't reach the end of the tube with my man-arms, so I got my 10 year old to secure it.

I'll removed the driver and hot glue it if it rattles one time.

Sub is amazing. I think I dissolved a blood clot in my lungs last night listening to the Skyfall castle explosion scene. Finally got vision back after a few minutes.

Very happy for the money.
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post #769 of 2032
2/21/13 at 6:25pm
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There are a couple reviews of the Cadence CSX12 Mark II posted in AVS and two of them that I read said something to the effect that for a budget subwoofer it is surprisingly good with music. Not musical, as no budget sub can be, but good nonetheless. When I was looking for a sub I nearly bought the Cadence because of the "music" thing and also I think it's build quality is better than the Klpsch for less money. I ended up buying a Jamo SUB 650 because I got a good price on it and the Cadence sub can only be connected via LFE input and I wanted something more versatile as far as connections go.
There are other reasons I wouldn't buy the Klipsch sub that are just personal preference things. I think the Cadence and the Jamo (if you can find one) are not only built better but are better looking subs.

I did the same thing you are doing as far as research goes. I read everything I could find and bugged people for different views. The "Budget subwoofers discussion, opinions and questions thread" is a good place for info on budget subwoofers and I spent quite a bit of time reading, keeping up with, and sometimes posting in that thread.

The bottom line is, be happy with what you end up with. That wasn't an easy thing for me but in the end I'm really happy with my subwoofer and I'm glad I made this choice. Would I have been happy with something else like the Klipsch? Well, I just don't know. I do feel I got lucky because even after all the research and searching I did I was still a nervous wreck and didn't know if I made the right choice until I got the sub and used it. Then again, I don't have much money so a subwoofer purchase was no small thing to me.

Al
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post #770 of 2032
2/21/13 at 6:45pm
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There are a couple reviews of the Cadence CSX12 Mark II posted in AVS and two of them that I read said something to the effect that for a budget subwoofer it is surprisingly good with music. Not musical, as no budget sub can be, but good nonetheless. When I was looking for a sub I nearly bought the Cadence because of the "music" thing and also I think it's build quality is better than the Klpsch for less money. I ended up buying a Jamo SUB 650 because I got a good price on it and the Cadence sub can only be connected via LFE input and I wanted something more versatile as far as connections go.
There are other reasons I wouldn't buy the Klipsch sub that are just personal preference things. I think the Cadence and the Jamo (if you can find one) are not only built better but are better looking subs.

I did the same thing you are doing as far as research goes. I read everything I could find and bugged people for different views. The "Budget subwoofers discussion, opinions and questions thread" is a good place for info on budget subwoofers and I spent quite a bit of time reading, keeping up with, and sometimes posting in that thread.

The bottom line is, be happy with what you end up with. That wasn't an easy thing for me but in the end I'm really happy with my subwoofer and I'm glad I made this choice. Would I have been happy with something else like the Klipsch? Well, I just don't know. I do feel I got lucky because even after all the research and searching I did I was still a nervous wreck and didn't know if I made the right choice until I got the sub and used it. Then again, I don't have much money so a subwoofer purchase was no small thing to me.

Al

 

Al, you lined a perfect path . . . A sub comparison thread, and that led you to a great decision for you.  Paralyzed in making a decision and a nervous wreck describes about 99% of us, me included, after finally pulling the trigger on a sub and waiting to hear it at home, to see if we did the right thing . . .because many of us, me included, have finite funds, and any HT purchase, not matter how small it physically looks, is always a big purchase we will have to live with and not be able to upgrade for a long time.  

 

Especially tough making a decision when it may be the first time or the first time in a long time when buying a sub.

 

I am sorry ljn21 took my post wrong . . . I did not say he was a "troll; read my original post.  I said aI would have thought he was a troll, but with only 14 avs forum posts, aI suspicioned he was not a troll, but paralyzed in making the decision.  I do apologize, ljn21, and to any others who took it wrong-- my attempt at humor was evidentially not clear.  Again, I apologize.  I was just want to encourage him to make a decision (for any sub he preferred, so that he can have his thump back after the other one was damage in a recent move.  Mistakenly thought I was helping to nudge him out of paralysis.  

 

I need to remember that humor does not translate always clearly in a forum post.

 

and, Al, did you know that Jamo is owned by The Klipsch Group?  The Jamo is a Klipsch sub branded as Jamo.  While you and many other have settled on Jamo sub, know that it is a very popular and often preferred sub in the European market.

 

Glad you like you Klipsch, I mean, Jamo sub.  :-). It is a great small sub.


Edited by Rhetor - 2/22/13 at 1:19pm
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post #771 of 2032
2/22/13 at 11:26am
How do you get the coupon code? Do you just create a price alert for $299.99? Or is there another trick I have to do?
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post #772 of 2032
2/22/13 at 11:42am
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Al, you lined a perfect path . . . A sub comparison thread, and that led you to a great decision for you.  Paralyzed in making a decision and a nervous wreck describes about 99% of us, me included, after finally pulling the trigger on a sub and waiting to hear it at home, to see if we did the right thing . . .because many of us, me included, have finite funds, and any HT purchase, not matter how small it physically looks, is always a big purchase we will have to live with and not be able to upgrade for a long time.  

Especially tough making a decision when it may be the first time or the first time in a long time when buying a sub.

I am sorry ljn21 took my post wrong . . . I did not say he was a "troll; read my original post.  I said aI would have thought he was a troll, but with only 14 avs forum posts, aI suspicioned he was not a troll, but paralyzed in making the decision.  I do apologize, ljn21, and to any others who took it wrong-- my attempt at humor was evidentially not clear.  Again, I apologize.  I was just want to encourage him to make a decision (for any sub he preferred, so that he can have his thump back after the other one was damage in a recent move.  Mistakenly thought I was helping to nudge him out of paralysis.  

I need to remember that human does not translate always clearly in a forum post.

and, Al, did you know that Jamo is owned by The Klipsch Group?  The Jamo is a Klipsch sub branded as Jamo.  While you and many other have settled on Jamo sub, know that it is a very popular and often preferred sub in the European market.

Glad you like you Klipsch, I mean, Jamo sub.  :-). It is a great small sub.

Most likely klipsch had nothing to do with the design of the Jamo Sub 650. That said one could argue that the RW-12d name sould be changed to Audiovox since they recently purchased Klipsch group. wink.gif
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post #773 of 2032
2/22/13 at 11:50am
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How do you get the coupon code? Do you just create a price alert for $299.99? Or is there another trick I have to do?

The current price is $320 without any any promo code. The best thing to do is to sign up for newegg's emails to get the promo codes. Sometimes the promo codes are listed on the product page, but sometimes you have to get the email to qualify for the coded price.
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post #774 of 2032
2/22/13 at 1:21pm
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Most likely klipsch had nothing to do with the design of the Jamo Sub 650. That said one could argue that the RW-12d name sould be changed to Audiovox since they recently purchased Klipsch group. wink.gif

 

smile.gif  Touché . . . Fair enough . . . You got me on that one.

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2/22/13 at 2:14pm
Or just find out what factory they contracted in China to make them in smile.gif Might be the Yaobangin Subwoofer Speaker Factory Co Ltd for both... smile.gif
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post #776 of 2032
2/22/13 at 3:56pm
I decided to return one of the 2 subs that I bought. I does have the disconnected port tube, but I didn't want to deal with it like I did with the first one. Newegg did a full refund return no cost to me with zero issues.

I have changed my room layout and size again so I think one is enough. This thing is a great sub.
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post #777 of 2032
2/22/13 at 8:17pm
For those considering the RW-12D, looks like NewEgg might have it for sale on 2/23 for $279. Seems like a nice price compared to their typical $300 sale price. Here is where I saw the sale and code info posted - in case anyone is interested:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5871602-Newegg-Klipsch-Reference-RW-12d-12-Powered-Subwoofer-279-99-Free-Shipping-Starts-2-23
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post #778 of 2032
2/22/13 at 8:22pm
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For those considering the RW-12D, looks like NewEgg might have it for sale on 2/23 for $279. Seems like a nice price compared to their typical $300 sale price. Here is where I saw the sale and code info posted - in case anyone is interested:

http://slickdeals.net/f/5871602-Newegg-Klipsch-Reference-RW-12d-12-Powered-Subwoofer-279-99-Free-Shipping-Starts-2-23

How long will this go? I don't get my tax refund til Tuesday...
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post #779 of 2032
2/22/13 at 8:24pm
of course they would a week after I bought an f12 for 187... owell! i got f12 tuned really good right now so I'm happy, but 279? jump on it people!
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post #780 of 2032
2/22/13 at 9:24pm
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of course they would a week after I bought an f12 for 187... owell! i got f12 tuned really good right now so I'm happy, but 279? jump on it people!

I got the F12 sub for $187 as well a few weeks ago (looks like Amazon now has it back at $230). For under $200, I have been enjoying the F12 for movie-only usage in my budget home theater. My wife already complains about the sub volume, even though it is only set to 3 out of 10, lol. So at least for me, other than possibly a lower hitting sub someday, I don't feel a need for more power. Enjoy your F12.

Regarding the other posted question about length of RW-12D sale - unknown to me. All I know about it is from the link I posted. RW-12D seems like a nice sub for those in that price range - hopefully anyone looking to buy can save a few dollars.
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