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post #871 of 1983
2/28/13 at 8:48am
Subs tracking hasn't updated frown.gif still says they're in TN, called UPS they dont know where they are because they haven't had another arrival or depature scan frown.gif

I may not have my subs till next week
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post #872 of 1983
2/28/13 at 8:54am
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Most people say no if you get one thats decent quality.

Has anyone done any comparison graphs to show a sub with a wireless and wired setup? I would like to some day have 2 subs to help with room smoothing but the one would be behind the MLP and I wouldnt want to deal with wiring because it is a finished space and running through walls isn't an option.
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post #873 of 1983
2/28/13 at 9:13am
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Has anyone done any comparison graphs to show a sub with a wireless and wired setup? I would like to some day have 2 subs to help with room smoothing but the one would be behind the MLP and I wouldnt want to deal with wiring because it is a finished space and running through walls isn't an option.

Wireless can work very well with one sub because the delay of the sub due to the wireless transmission can be compensated for by the receiver room correction software.

But I would wonder whether or not wireless creates a problem when running dual subs off a receiver that only corrects for one subwoofer line out. Then the receiver cannot correct for the delay difference between the two subs. Might be good to start a new thread, something like "Are delay effects a problem when running one wireless sub in a dual sub setup" so that you attract the attention of the main sub multiple sub configuration gurus on AVS.
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post #874 of 1983
2/28/13 at 9:24am
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Wireless can work very well with one sub because the delay of the sub due to the wireless transmission can be compensated for by the receiver room correction software.

But I would wonder whether or not wireless creates a problem when running dual subs off a receiver that only corrects for one subwoofer line out. Then the receiver cannot correct for the delay difference between the two subs. Might be good to start a new thread, something like "Are delay effects a problem when running one wireless sub in a dual sub setup" so that you attract the attention of the main sub multiple sub configuration gurus on AVS.
Very good point.
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post #875 of 1983
2/28/13 at 9:27am
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Wireless can work very well with one sub because the delay of the sub due to the wireless transmission can be compensated for by the receiver room correction software.

But I would wonder whether or not wireless creates a problem when running dual subs off a receiver that only corrects for one subwoofer line out. Then the receiver cannot correct for the delay difference between the two subs. Might be good to start a new thread, something like "Are delay effects a problem when running one wireless sub in a dual sub setup" so that you attract the attention of the main sub multiple sub configuration gurus on AVS.

Great point! I would imagine there is some truth to that. I know my Denon 3312 has 2 sub outs. But I am almost positive it is basically an internal y-connection so they are pretty much off the same output. I might have to start a new post shortly asking that question smile.gif
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post #876 of 1983
2/28/13 at 9:48am
I was going to order 1 Rythmik LV12R but got 2 RW12's for the same price($560). I hope I haven't sacrificed a ton of quality.
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post #877 of 1983
2/28/13 at 1:02pm
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Wireless can work very well with one sub because the delay of the sub due to the wireless transmission can be compensated for by the receiver room correction software.

But I would wonder whether or not wireless creates a problem when running dual subs off a receiver that only corrects for one subwoofer line out. Then the receiver cannot correct for the delay difference between the two subs. Might be good to start a new thread, something like "Are delay effects a problem when running one wireless sub in a dual sub setup" so that you attract the attention of the main sub multiple sub configuration gurus on AVS.

Great point! I would imagine there is some truth to that. I know my Denon 3312 has 2 sub outs. But I am almost positive it is basically an internal y-connection so they are pretty much off the same output. I might have to start a new post shortly asking that question smile.gif

I use two Infinity PSW310s, along with an Empire, in my living room. While my avr has 2 sub preouts, it's basically a y-splitter inside the avr so the Audyssey XT just treats them all as one in any case. The PSW310s are wireless (built in, another sub bargain score at $250 delivered each), and I run them off a single transmitter plugged into one of the preouts. Works well. For a bit I moved one of those subs downstairs to my bedroom (but below the living room) and the wireless transmitter still reached fine (which wasn't intentional or useful at the time). My listening position is basically equidistant to each sub so no particular issues for me on distance/delay.
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post #878 of 1983
3/1/13 at 2:14am
Thought this might be helpful on the wireless sub issue:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1458479/wireless-subwoofer-connection-no-loss-of-fidelity#post_22974496
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post #879 of 1983
3/1/13 at 7:12am
Received my subwoofer yesterday after a little mix up with UPS. Their website said it was delivered to my house at 12:26pm but noone at my house said it was there. So I called UPS and they had the driver come back and wouldn't you know it he had it on his truck. Weird! That saved me a heart attack.


When I got home I set it up next to my couch and popped in Terminator Salvation blu ray and all I can say is - Holy Mother of God. Makes my previous Onkyo 8 inch sub sound anemic. The only thing I did so far was adjust the L/P to 80hz but unfortunately my receiver (Avr-1513) doesn't have Audyssey so I will invest in some software to properly get everything set right.

In the meantime what are some of you using as your settings that may be able to help me out for now. I know everyone's setups are different but I just want a general idea.

Thanks
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post #880 of 1983
3/1/13 at 7:36am
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Received my subwoofer yesterday after a little mix up with UPS. Their website said it was delivered to my house at 12:26pm but noone at my house said it was there. So I called UPS and they had the driver come back and wouldn't you know it he had it on his truck. Weird! That saved me a heart attack.


When I got home I set it up next to my couch and popped in Terminator Salvation blu ray and all I can say is - Holy Mother of God. Makes my previous Onkyo 8 inch sub sound anemic. The only thing I did so far was adjust the L/P to 80hz but unfortunately my receiver (Avr-1513) doesn't have Audyssey so I will invest in some software to properly get everything set right.

In the meantime what are some of you using as your settings that may be able to help me out for now. I know everyone's setups are different but I just want a general idea.

Thanks

Hehe, awesome!! I got dual RW-12d's, best home theater purchase I may have ever made. biggrin.gif (well, and my Klipsch Reference speakers and Onkyo THX receiver :P)
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post #881 of 1983
3/1/13 at 8:31am
I am also a new 12d owner and finally got my sub hooked up last night as well. I can definitely say this thing gets LOUD but am having trouble getting it dialed in and placed. I noticed right away that if I stood in the middle of the room it was crazy loud but when I go sit back on the sofa (about 12 feet away) the intensity falls way off. I tried doing the crawl test a little bit but got nowhere with that. I am planning on keeping it in the front left corner or just inside the corner for now. As for music, it lacks a little in output from what I like. I listen to mostly dubstep and hip-hop and it does hit hard but again, when sitting down it isn't as impressive as standing up. I then decided to try out a few movie scenes, I turned on Dark Knight and WOW this thing shakes the room! Going from music to movie makes me confirm that this is a straight up HT sub. When the helicopter flew over Gotham city I thought it was landing in my kitchen above me! I wish I could get this to have more output while sitting down for the music but it is a great buy for $299!
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post #882 of 1983
3/1/13 at 8:45am
Hmmm, it would seem you are sitting in a null. Changing where it is and some bass traps are what fixes that. I do actually find the RW-12d's to be quite musical myself.
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post #883 of 1983
3/1/13 at 9:14am
Received my 2 subs Wednesday as UPS promised. Like others, the outer boxes had dents, holes and such, but the inner box was fine.
The tube in both subs were loose, but they are fixed now.
Both power cords were there and all is good.
The HT setup sounds great with the KG5.2s and the yammie 3800. Ran yapo with the mic on a tripod sitting in my favorite spot and so far I'm really imporessed. Hope to give it a good workout this weekend.

I mentioned in a previous post that the 2nd sub is for a music only system with mangaplaner speakers and yamaha c-80/m-80 setup and I asked about a crossover recomendations, thanks for the suggestions folks.
While researching, i found the minidsp, www.minidsp.com which looks pretty interesting.
Wondering if anyone has experience with the 2x4 model?
Not too expensive and looks to be very flexable so if I ever replace the maggies, i should be able to adjust to what ever speakers.
I also found info on using the minidsp, a usb sound system and mic to eq the setup.
If it all works as i'm thinking, that would be a pretty slik setup.
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post #884 of 1983
3/1/13 at 10:02am
Price is back up to $649. I missed out on the deal, but from the looks of things, this sale happens often enough to justify waiting again? Amazon has it for $345 + $32 shipping.

EDIT: I read back a few pages and saw this item has been on sale every weekend. I will wait for my turn.
Edited by Titan Uranus - 3/1/13 at 10:08am
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post #885 of 1983
3/1/13 at 10:09am
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Price is back up to $649. I missed out on the deal, but from the looks of things, this sale happens often enough to justify waiting again? Amazon has it for $345 + $32 shipping.

either they almost all out of them. (they are trying to sell all of Klipsch back stock of this sub until there are no more.) or they are getting ready for another weekend sale, and the price is jumping around. (it does that sometimes.)

This sub has been on sale at newegg every weekend since at least Jan IIRC. i would wait at least until tomorrow.

We will see.
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post #886 of 1983
3/1/13 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by bumprunlogan View Post

Received my subwoofer yesterday after a little mix up with UPS. Their website said it was delivered to my house at 12:26pm but noone at my house said it was there. So I called UPS and they had the driver come back and wouldn't you know it he had it on his truck. Weird! That saved me a heart attack.


When I got home I set it up next to my couch and popped in Terminator Salvation blu ray and all I can say is - Holy Mother of God. Makes my previous Onkyo 8 inch sub sound anemic. The only thing I did so far was adjust the L/P to 80hz but unfortunately my receiver (Avr-1513) doesn't have Audyssey so I will invest in some software to properly get everything set right.

In the meantime what are some of you using as your settings that may be able to help me out for now. I know everyone's setups are different but I just want a general idea.

Thanks

Set the crossover in your avr (to crossover between your speakers and the sub) at 80hz. If you have a dedicated .1 subwoofer pre-out from your avr, set the low pass on the sub itself to 120hz as that is the range of LFE signals in movies...
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post #887 of 1983
3/1/13 at 10:37am
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either they almost all out of them. (they are trying to sell all of Klipsch back stock of this sub until there are no more.) or they are getting ready for another weekend sale, and the price is jumping around. (it does that sometimes.)

This sub has been on sale at newegg every weekend since at least Jan IIRC. i would wait at least until tomorrow.

We will see.

I set up a price watch notification email. I will jump on it when it comes down.
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post #888 of 1983
3/1/13 at 10:49am
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I am also a new 12d owner and finally got my sub hooked up last night as well. I can definitely say this thing gets LOUD but am having trouble getting it dialed in and placed. I noticed right away that if I stood in the middle of the room it was crazy loud but when I go sit back on the sofa (about 12 feet away) the intensity falls way off. I tried doing the crawl test a little bit but got nowhere with that. I am planning on keeping it in the front left corner or just inside the corner for now. As for music, it lacks a little in output from what I like. I listen to mostly dubstep and hip-hop and it does hit hard but again, when sitting down it isn't as impressive as standing up. I then decided to try out a few movie scenes, I turned on Dark Knight and WOW this thing shakes the room! Going from music to movie makes me confirm that this is a straight up HT sub. When the helicopter flew over Gotham city I thought it was landing in my kitchen above me! I wish I could get this to have more output while sitting down for the music but it is a great buy for $299!

Do you have a way of matching the output level of your avr for speakers and sub? What avr are you using? What setting do you have the RW12D at now?
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post #889 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:04am
UPS cant locate my 2 subs frown.gif have to file a claim with newegg
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post #890 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:27am
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Set the crossover in your avr (to crossover between your speakers and the sub) at 80hz. If you have a dedicated .1 subwoofer pre-out from your avr, set the low pass on the sub itself to 120hz as that is the range of LFE signals in movies...
Dont know if you have the rw or not but if you go just one more notch past 120 then it is the dedicated "lfe mode".
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post #891 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:28am
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UPS cant locate my 2 subs frown.gif have to file a claim with newegg
WOW! Sorry to hear that.
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post #892 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:31am
beyond bummed frown.gif
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post #893 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:31am
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UPS cant locate my 2 subs frown.gif have to file a claim with newegg

That sux.

How does a shipper lose two big subwoofers? That's major incompetence on their part.
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post #894 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:34am
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That sux.

How does a shipper lose two big subwoofers? That's major incompetence on their part.
UPS could lose a yacht. rolleyes.gif
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post #895 of 1983
3/1/13 at 11:42am
Some UPS employee might be listening to very deep bass right about now.
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post #896 of 1983
3/1/13 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by lovinthehd View Post

Set the crossover in your avr (to crossover between your speakers and the sub) at 80hz. If you have a dedicated .1 subwoofer pre-out from your avr, set the low pass on the sub itself to 120hz as that is the range of LFE signals in movies...
Dont know if you have the rw or not but if you go just one more notch past 120 then it is the dedicated "lfe mode".

I forgot about that setting! Yes, I have an RW12d in my bedroom.
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post #897 of 1983
3/1/13 at 1:08pm
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UPS cant locate my 2 subs frown.gif have to file a claim with newegg

That sux.

How does a shipper lose two big subwoofers? That's major incompetence on their part.

A carrier (Newegg is the shipper) can lose, or destroy, anything they put their minds to....I've known of pieces 20 feet long airlines have lost track of...let alone what the ocean carriers can do with a container (I'm in the biz)
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post #898 of 1983
3/1/13 at 1:25pm
Yea I have to file a claim but cant due so until Tuesday. Newegg wont start the process until 7 business days have passed. mad.gif
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post #899 of 1983
3/1/13 at 1:26pm
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Yea I have to file a claim but cant due so until Tuesday. Newegg wont start the process until 7 business days have passed. mad.gif

Will they at least ship you two new ones at the same price, and agree to RMA the previous two if they get found? Amazon would do that...
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post #900 of 1983
3/1/13 at 1:29pm
I may try that but at this point im still waiting at least a week to get my subs frown.gif
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