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Can someone explain to me why I cant use a 2.35:1 screen with this Epson projector?

post #1 of 7
12/2/12 at 9:38pm
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Hey guys,

Im really confused. Im looking at these 2 projectors - Epson 8350 and the Epson 3020. Both say they can project 16:9 images. Originally I was going to get a 120" 16:9 screen, but because of my ceiling height and the fact that I have a 24" high AV cabinet on the floor, I cant do 120." I would have to do something like 110" or 106" In order for it to have enough space between the top of the wall and the AV cabinet. So I thought - why not just get a 2.35:1 screen and go with 125." Well I read on several sites that these cant natively project that image. It would be 16:9 projected image but you would have to zoom it in order for it to fill the screen, but then you would have black bars on the top and bottom on the outside of the screen. Is that true?

Can someone explain this?


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post #2 of 7
12/2/12 at 10:45pm
I think it is cause the 8350 doesn't have an anamorphic lens.
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post #3 of 7
12/3/12 at 12:13am
You pretty much already answered your own question, these are not native 2.35 projectors (no digital units exist that I am aware of) and as such they will have black bars (above and below) with 2.35 content (using zoom to fill the width of a 2.35 screen).

When projecting 1.78/16:9 content you'll have to shoot in the middle of a 2.35 screen (filling the height but not the width) and while you will not have 'projected' black bars you will have bars on the sides with a 2.35 screen.

Some projectors offer a psuedo squish/resize for 2.35 screens (where manual/electric zooming back and forth is not required) and some offer a stretch for use with an anamorphic lens.

Considering the so-so black level of both of those models I would not suggest a 2.35 screen without a lens, just my personal opinion. If your primary viewing is 2.35 fims then you may not mind manual zooming those models back and forth but nobody here can answer that one for you. wink.gif

Best of luck,
Jason
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post #4 of 7
12/3/12 at 11:53am
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Thanks guys, that clears things up for me.
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post #5 of 7
12/4/12 at 6:47am
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Originally Posted by DaGamePimp View Post

You pretty much already answered your own question, these are not native 2.35 projectors (no digital units exist that I am aware of) and as such they will have black bars (above and below) with 2.35 content (using zoom to fill the width of a 2.35 screen).
When projecting 1.78/16:9 content you'll have to shoot in the middle of a 2.35 screen (filling the height but not the width) and while you will not have 'projected' black bars you will have bars on the sides with a 2.35 screen.
Some projectors offer a psuedo squish/resize for 2.35 screens (where manual/electric zooming back and forth is not required) and some offer a stretch for use with an anamorphic lens.
Considering the so-so black level of both of those models I would not suggest a 2.35 screen without a lens, just my personal opinion. If your primary viewing is 2.35 fims then you may not mind manual zooming those models back and forth but nobody here can answer that one for you. wink.gif
Best of luck,
Jason
Jason what about running 1920X817 or the epson can't handle that resolution? Worked
with crt but have not tried it with digital!
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post #6 of 7
12/4/12 at 6:59am
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Originally Posted by greg1292 View Post

Jason what about running 1920X817 or the epson can't handle that resolution? Worked
with crt but have not tried it with digital!

CRT has no native resolution, LCD does.

It won't work.
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post #7 of 7
12/4/12 at 7:39am
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Originally Posted by rdeyoung View Post

Hey guys,
Im really confused. Im looking at these 2 projectors - Epson 8350 and the Epson 3020. Both say they can project 16:9 images. Originally I was going to get a 120" 16:9 screen, but because of my ceiling height and the fact that I have a 24" high AV cabinet on the floor, I cant do 120." I would have to do something like 110" or 106" In order for it to have enough space between the top of the wall and the AV cabinet. So I thought - why not just get a 2.35:1 screen and go with 125." Well I read on several sites that these cant natively project that image. It would be 16:9 projected image but you would have to zoom it in order for it to fill the screen, but then you would have black bars on the top and bottom on the outside of the screen. Is that true?
Can someone explain this?
Thanks! rolleyes.gif
You have one other option but it isn't cheap tongue.gif You can purchase a lumagen mini 3D...but it costs almost much as a PJ. But it will do the resizing for you.
Here's some more info: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1304556/official-lumagen-radiancemini-3d-thread

Here's the lumagen in action...Aspect Ratio Management Videos (16:9-to-2:35) Videos:

Video 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwF7nYe-YzM
Video 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Stq_2lWYM
Edited by JoeBoy73 - 12/4/12 at 7:54am
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