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post #1 of 31
Thread Starter 
There are many threads herein regarding Panny DVD recorders so I apologize for starting another, but I need the greatest visibility so I don't know which one will fit the following post. The mod is welcome to move this to the place he regards as most suitable and currently in view, though, with no objection from me.

I have two Pannys--EH55 & EH75 and I love them both. Except for the eDVD drive on the 75, all appears to be working well, though I fear at this late date that the clock is ticking. I could replace them but I require massive hard drives, the ability to high-speed dub from hard drive to DVD (and back again, if possible), the ability to read/write DVD RAM (i'll comment on that in a bit), the ability to copy from VHS to digital media, and the ability for unattended recording of programs on different channels. In short, everything the Panny's used to do before the analog/digital conversion forced a converter box on me that restricts what I can do.

Now, I've been at this awhile and, though I have little tech knowledge and absolutely no way to perform do-it-yourself maintenance, I do realize certain things which by not repeating on your end will save time. First, there is likely no single unit that does all that I want, certainly not in the US market. I fully expect, for example, to need a second unit for the VHS functions; that's why I bought the EH-75. I also expect that the recording of successive programs on different channels will likely devolve onto the cable box so Comcast may get in the way

DVD RAM: I've read on this forum that it's a dying (if not dead) format so migration away is essential. Fine, and I've stopped buying, but i've got a couple of hundred so this takes time when drive space is dwindling and must be used for other things as well. Further, the format pretty well limits me to Panny and I am well aware that they have virtually abandoned the US market. After the EH-75, each later model seems to have become more and more simplistic (I also have an EZ-48(?) and it's abominable).

I also need to emphasize the importance to me of high-speed dubbing, especially since dubbing from VHS is by limitation of the format in real time. Once I get something on the hard drive I want to move it to disk quickly and an external drive doesn't allow that, unless I'm greatly mistaken.

So, does Panny have anything in the international market that even comes close? I realize I'll need an external NTSC tuner unless just accepting Comcast's feed is enough, but if I do need the separate tuner, how would I make it work with the uni(s) and the cable box?

Of course, much as I love Panny, I'm not married to it, so if anyone else is out there by all means tell me.

Please understand: I'm not into piracy and I could care less about premium channels, which I neither have nor want. I mean, if I see Frankenweenie in the theater and want it, I'll buy it. It's enough that I'm considering finally upgrading my service to recover TCM, which I dearly love and miss greatly. In the process, though, I'll have to accept tons of crap channels which I'll never watch, let alone record.

But I insist on having the ability to do what I want with the hundreds (maybe thousands) of tapes I have left (and I've already dumped many without even considering moving them to disk). But, quite frankly, most if not all of what I've seen in the brick-and-mortars is minimalist crap, though admittedly I haven't shopped in a while. Anyway, for anyone whose made it this far, thanks for reading (and responding if you do) and Merry Christmas to all.

PatH
post #2 of 31
What you probably want is the "import" model Panasonic EH59, most commonly purchased from this dealer. Cost varies with supply and demand, current price is pretty good at $331. The more expensive EH69 is identical except for a slightly larger HDD and added SD slots to read JPGs from your still camera cards. There are no other Panasonic DVD/HDD or DVD/VHS models still available new from USA/Canada dealers.

There are many threads here on AVS regarding the EH59 and EH69, they've been marketed for the past three years and are very popular replacement models among Panasonic fans. Think of them as a deluxe version of the 2006 EH55 model, with added convenience features, but missing the TVGOS guide system and any sort of useful tuner. You would need to connect an external ATSC tuner like the Zenith DTT901 to record off-air broadcasts, or connect a cable/satellite decoder box. These import models cover all of your requirements except the tuner, and you'd need to connect an external VCR (or your EH75V or EZ48V) to transfer VHS to DVD.

If you can afford the money and space for two DVD/HDD recorders, you might consider adding the Magnavox MDR533 available for $228 on the WalMart website. The Magnavox does not handle DVD-RAM and lacks the key convenience features and "finesse" of the Panasonic models, but it does include a nice, reliable 16:9 ATSC tuner timer. It functions nicely for simple off-air watch-and-erase and high-speed dubs to DVD. Editing is very basic compared to Panasonic and the interface is more clumsy, but for the money this is the DVD/HDD recorder to beat and the only one with a modern USA DTV tuner. You can even use it in tandem with an EH59 or 69, connected to the Panasonic line inputs as a glorified external tuner. You would need to set timers on both recorders so they synchronize, but it isn't that difficult and you double your HDD storage capacity.
Edited by CitiBear - 12/3/12 at 5:45pm
post #3 of 31
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Originally Posted by PatH View Post

... I have two Pannys--EH55 & EH75 and I love them both. Except for the eDVD drive on the 75, all appears to be working well, though I fear at this late date that the clock is ticking...

I have little tech knowledge and absolutely no way to perform do-it-yourself maintenance, I do realize certain things which by not repeating on your end will save time...

I could care less about premium channels, which I neither have nor want... It's enough that I'm considering finally upgrading my service to recover TCM, which I dearly love and miss greatly. In the process, though, I'll have to accept tons of crap channels which I'll never watch, let alone record.

But I insist on having the ability to do what I want with the hundreds (maybe thousands) of tapes I have left (and I've already dumped many without even considering moving them to disk). But, quite frankly, most if not all of what I've seen in the brick-and-mortars is minimalist crap, though admittedly I haven't shopped in a while. Anyway, for anyone whose made it this far, thanks for reading (and responding if you do) and Merry Christmas to all.

PatH

I'll address the quoted portions of your post and leave it to others to address the rest. I, too have many "Pannys," including three DMR-EH50 models and one DMR-EH75 (that I've yet to set up and use) as well as more than two dozen of the 2005 and 2006 ES series recorders, a DMR-EA18 or two and perhaps half dozen EZ series models. Most of my 2007-2009 EZ series recorders havenow been "junked."

Back in 2007 I completed a ten month project transferring selected portions of my home-recorded VHS archive to DVDs. At the conclusion of the project there had been around 5,200 titles transferred to DVD. The project utilized a total of seven ES series Panasonic recorders, most running sixteen to eighteen hours per day six days a week. Those ES series Pannys had a regular rotation of long and short duty cycles with frequent, but brief, "cool down" breaks. I kept usage logs to track hourly utilization to facilitate routine DVD Drive servicing-the simple cleaning of the laser lens and the turntable rubber hub/spindle. I also made a few minor adjustments and repairs as needed.

While technology is not my field I learned to service/repair my own Panasonics in order to reduce down-time and keep the project moving forward. Several of those ES series recorders accumulated 3,000 to 4,000 recording hours during the dubbing project and most of them are still fully functional today (but put away in a "standby" status).

Basic service procedures are not difficult. This post has some diagnostic and servicing advice:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1055071/panasonic-2006-and-newer-dvd-drive-hub-spindle-cleaning-and-reassembly-complications/0_60#post_14479898

As my archival dubbing/recording interests center upon early talkies through the film noir era I find TCM to be the best current programming source.

My home recorded VHS archive largely consisted of material originally shown on The Nostalgia Channel up to 1990 and AMC for the remainder of the 1990s. I lost interest in AMC with the coming of commercial interruptions around 1999/2000--soon followed by programming caterering to a younger demographic. In the late 1980s to early 1990s TNT was another good source of vintage movies (but TNT had commercial interruptions). TNT changed their programming emphasis when TCM came along in April 1994. My first access to TCM came in the first six months of 1997. It wasn't until late 2004 that I once again had access to TCM. Locally Comcast bundles TCM in a package with "premium" services that I don't watch.

Currently, I have thirteen recorders set up for daily use, eleven of which might be used to record from TCM. Nine of the daily use recorders are HDD/DVD models from Magnavox, Philips and Panasonic. The other four daily use recorders are Panasonic models.
Edited by DigaDo - 12/3/12 at 6:02pm
post #4 of 31
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Originally Posted by PatH View Post

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I have two Pannys--EH55 & EH75 and I love them both. Except for the eDVD drive on the 75, all appears to be working well, though I fear at this late date that the clock is ticking. I could replace them but I require massive hard drives, the ability to high-speed dub from hard drive to DVD (and back again, if possible), the ability to read/write DVD RAM (i'll comment on that in a bit), the ability to copy from VHS to digital media, and the ability for unattended recording of programs on different channels. In short, everything the Panny's used to do before the analog/digital conversion forced a converter box on me that restricts what I can do.

First, if you are having issues with your EH5/75, contact avsforum user MICKINCT. He can repair these untis and has a very loyal following and lots of users giving testimonials about his service.

"Massive hard drive" If you are intersted in maintaining the Panisonic editing features, the previously mentioned EH59 and EH69 are fully usable replacements. I have a few of them, and am very happy with them. If the "MASSIVE" hard drive is really important, then the EH69 has a 320GB HDD, while the EH59 has a 250GB. Your EH55 has a 200GB HDD, but the EH75 only has an 80GB HDD (bad decision on Panasonic's part in my opinion). If that still seems too limiting, the newest Magnavox has a 1TB HDD. The EH59/69 does the HS dubbing, but unfortunately, not from DVD to the HDD, That operation is still realtime frown.gif. The EH59/69 fully support -RAM disks. To record your VHS tapes, you will need a separate VHS player, or, as has been said already, your EH75/EZ48 will work fine using their line outputs to the inputs on the EH59/69. They can be programmed to record from various inputs (three A/V inputs) at any time(s) you specify. You will need a programmable tuner connected to the line inputs to use this feature though, but they are available.

These macines will not allow you to get around issues that you have probable already encountered with your EH55/75 mavhines. If your tapes have any copy protection, you will need to get a filter to remove the CP "flag" from the video signal. There are a lot of "interesting" issues with many cable boxes and their apparent need to letterbox 19:9 content when you use the composit or S-Video outputs. This might be an issue if you want to record anamorphic widescreen material.
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Originally Posted by PatH 
DVD RAM: I've read on this forum that it's a dying (if not dead) format so migration away is essential. Fine, and I've stopped buying, but i've got a couple of hundred so this takes time when drive space is dwindling and must be used for other things as well. Further, the format pretty well limits me to Panny and I am well aware that they have virtually abandoned the US market.

As I said, the international Panasonic models fully support the -RAM format. I use -RAM a lot, so that was important to me.

If you need me to clairfy anything, just ask. biggrin.gif
post #5 of 31
Also the EH68 is availble in USA if you look too. I am not sure on the difference between it and the 59/69 though.
post #6 of 31
Just because the EH-68 is listed for sale at places like World Import and others I wouldn't assume they are actually available. Others have found out that after adding them to your cart and actually placing the order you are told they are out of stock and you are encouraged to order a new model like the EH-59/69.
My guess as to why they do this is for people searching for a model they know, they will find the sellers website, decide to order and only then be told a replacement model is available. I can see why they might do this but it is kind of shady IMO.
As to the differences in the models you can check out this thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1134909/panasonic-dvd-recorder-us-models-years-produced-and-features/0_100
post #7 of 31
Two things:

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At this moment, and for what I expect will be a VERY short time, J&R has an EH59 open box item for sale for about $240, which is a bit (smile.gif)cheaper than the EH59 (new) at B&H for about $340. If you are interested, that would be the one to buy for cost effectiveness. Open box EH59/69's do become available occasionally, but not often, and they rarely last too long before someone snatches them up. jjeff and I are both guilty of taking advantage of open box sales. smile.gif

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I agree with jjeff. Various sites LIST the EH68 (and other models) but they really are unavailable. Also note: World-Import has the EH68 (320Gb HDD) at $450, and the EH69 (also 320Gb HDD) at $390. I would get the EH69 over the EH68 any day, not only for price, but for another really good reason. The EH68 does NOT, I say again ,it does NOT have the phrase save feature. I owned one for a while, so I can say this from personal experience (I gave it away as a gift because of the lack of this feature--yes, phrase save is THAT important to me). See page 42 of the EH69 manual. It has the "add to list"/"view list" options shown in the screen shot. Then look at page 42 of the EH68 manual. The phrase save options are not shown in the screen shot.
post #8 of 31
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all for your responses. Now, the only question is how I interface any external tuner with the analog/digital converter box and is there a box available which allows me to change channels for timer recording. I know I may have to go to Comcast for this, but what exactly do I ask for? I have little faith in the knowledge of the primary contact person. Thanks!

PatH
post #9 of 31
If you have ComCast cable, you may be facing a rather significant (more expensive) change in your service plan. Using an import or "tunerless" recorder requires what is often referred to as "standard tier" service: basic boxless cable, or basic with ComCasts new "free" mini-decoder, won't cut it. You need the full-sized full-featured digital decoder box: these usually have their own timer (aka reminder) system integrated with their onscreen program guide grid. Most cable systems let you preset up to 8 reminder timers on 8 different channels up to approx 6 days in advance. Generally you use the remote to click on a show or movie title displayed on the grid, and a menu of options appears to set a timer or reminder that will cause the box to automatically tune to that program when it airs.

The drawback is the full-size box is not always available for the cheapest possible service plan: to get a decoder box with the timer feature, you may need to upgrade your monthly service to at least one step above basic. Also, some cable systems have stopped offering the timer feature altogether: the only way to get it is to sign up for their integrated decoder box/recorder service (which pretty much defeats the point of owning a DVD/HDD recorder). Its best to check with friends or relatives: find someone who has the normal full-sized decoder box (without the built-in recorder), and play with the remote to see if you can set a timer in the program guide. If so, just order that same box from ComCast.

If you don't already have a full-sized decoder box, and your budget can't accommodate the upgrade, you're stuck with the dinky little "free" converter pod ComCast rolled out to most customers last year. This mini converter has no program guide or timer functions, so you could only record one channel at a time to an import Panasonic EH59. The same applies if you connect an off-air ATSC converter box instead: these also have no timer feature, you can only record whatever channel is currently set on the box.

You only need one external decoder box for a Panasonic EH59, depending on how you get your TV signal. Off-air, you'd need one of the little ATSC converter boxes that were popularized in 2008 when USA moved to digital broadcasts. For cable, you need the standard decoder box. Satellite, again the standard decoder box.

The alternative, Magnavox MDR533 (currently on sale for $199), does have a built-in, up-to-date digital tuner. It works great for off-air recording, and can usually pull some (but not all) channels off the bare cable wire. Cable in USA is very rapidly migrating to required decoder boxes, so the long-term utility of the Magnavox cable tuner is doubtful. However, if you can receive channels with a roof antenna, the convenience of the Magnavox tuner can easily trump the familiarity and features of a Panasonic EH59. Depends on your priorities.
post #10 of 31
Or if you can afford it, get a Panny and a Magnavox.smile.gif
post #11 of 31
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Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

....If you don't already have a full-sized decoder box, and your budget can't accommodate the upgrade, you're stuck with the dinky little "free" converter pod ComCast rolled out to most customers last year. This mini converter has no program guide or timer functions, so you could only record one channel at a time to an import Panasonic EH59....
Note that generally the dinky DTA converter boxes that Comcast gives out only have RF output(no line outputs) in which case they will NOT work with a international Panasonic, since they have no tuner what so ever for N. American use frown.gif
In this respect the old EH-50, 55 etc. worked much better than the internationals. All of the CECBs for OTA use had at least composite output and would work fine with a international.
post #12 of 31
I have Comcast cable service with the Model RNG 110 cable box. It allows me to set up a maximum of 7 channel changes, which is frustratingly limited but better than nothing. Select Guide on the remote, use the arrow keys to navigate to the channel and program/time when you want the channel to change, select the program, then select the "R" icon twice.

These are other problems/limitations I've encountered:

1. You can't specify a time to change the channel; it must be a program. No building in an extra buffer in case the program starts a bit early.
2. The box displays a long-lasting on-screen "I'm about to change the channel" message beginning about one minute before the starting time of the selected program. Depending on the exact timing, this can mar a previous recording, the new one, or both.
3. The box displays a brief on-screen end-of-recording message at the scheduled end time of the program--which can mar the current program or the next one (if back-to-back on the same channel), or both.
4. If you need to power cycle the cable box, be aware that it may take an unbelievably long time to fully populate the program guide (mine dribbles in and takes at least 36 hours to complete). I cannot set up a channel change to a program until its name (not just its program block) appears in the guide.

My partial solution (I'd credit the earlier AVS poster who suggested it if I remembered who it was): Avoid scheduling back-to-back recordins if possible unless you're certain that there is a long break between programs (as usually occurs on TCM). Whenever possible, go to the desire channel and select the program scheduled two programs in advance of what you really plan to record. That will assure that both on-screen reminders have come and gone long before you begin recording. For example, if you want to record a 2PM - 4PM TCM movie, you'd set up channel change for the TCM movie scheduled for 10 AM to noon.

Yes, the above situation is annoying. A computer-controlled IR blaster stuck to the cable box is far more functional. You'd need a computer running Windows Media Center (or an alternative) in the same room as the cable box and an analog capture device (internal card or external) that works with an IR blaster. The cable box output would have to be connected to the capture device. I love capturing directly to my PC for ease of editing (frame-accurate cuts), but you could set up very brief recordings in WMC, just to get the channel to change, and do the actual recording on a Magnavox or Panasonic DVR if you preferred.
post #13 of 31
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Note that generally the dinky DTA converter boxes that Comcast gives out only have RF output(no line outputs) in which case they will NOT work with a international Panasonic, since they have no tuner what so ever for N. American use frown.gif.

Thanks, jjeff: I wasn't quite sure if the mini ComCast boxes had line outputs, I suspected not but couldn't find an AVS thread to confirm when I posted my insomniac reply early this morning.

PatH, this means if you do in fact currently have ComCast Basic service with the very small "free of charge" DTA decoder, you won't be able to record on a Panasonic import model EH59 or EH69 unless/until you upgrade to the full-feature normal decoder box that has the necessary line output connections. If you already have the standard decoder box, you should be fine: look at the back panel to make sure you have line out connections for video-audio L-audio R (yellow-white-red). Service plans vary, sometimes you can request the normal cable box with Basic, but usually you need Standard service (including channels like TCM). The bigger box itself adds something like $3/mo to the bill, if they insist you upgrade from Basic to Standard plan you could see a $20/mo total increase. Again, if you already have a normal decoder box then nothing changes: just putting this info out there in case you (or anyone in a similar situation) needs it.

acraven gave excellent tips for setting timers on the decoder box. In NYC, we have Time Warner Cable, and while TWC has its share of aggravations it does not have the really annoying lengthy on-screen timer alerts. I was very surprised to see ComCast does this, when we visited friends in Pittsburgh last month. ComCast even puts up a completely unnecessary and intrusive display every time a new show comes on, even if you're just watching the same channel all day. Really, ComCast? If we're watching the morning news, and Ellen comes on afterward, do you think we're too stupid to figure that out without an onscreen alert? After witnessing their system firsthand for two weeks, I'm really beginning to understand all the boiling hate for ComCast in this country. Bad as TWC is, ComCast makes them look like angels in comparison.
Edited by CitiBear - 12/6/12 at 8:44am
post #14 of 31
Can you get a small box that changes RF out on your cable box to a line out connection? like reverse of a RF modulator? i know the quality would not be great though. Or feed cable box RF into a VCR, grab the line out of the VCR and then feed that to EH59? Use a VCR just as pass through to get line out?
post #15 of 31
Those are excellent workaround suggestions, Cyclone82, if someone decides to stick with the limited Comcast DTA-type mini decoder box with no line outputs of its own. But much depends on how important picture quality is to the user, and how big a TV screen. Reports from ComCast subscribers indicate the combined performance of cable company and mini box is alarmingly poor: bad enough that it doesn't look nice at all on larger TVs and would probably degrade noticeably if passed thru a VCR or RF converter en route to a Panasonic EH59. Your suggestions could work as a short-term solution, or long-term if the viewer is not terribly picky and more interested in casual record-watch-erase. Someone eager to make permanent DVDs for their library may be disappointed: better results can be obtained from the better converter box (at higher cost).

Since PatH already has two Panasonic recorders with tuners that can accept the channel 3/4 RF output of the mini converter, using one of them as a line output adapter for an EH59 would be the simplest of your recommendations (and the one I would choose myself).
post #16 of 31
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Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

Note that generally the dinky DTA converter boxes that Comcast gives out only have RF output(no line outputs) in which case they will NOT work with a international Panasonic, since they have no tuner what so ever for N. American use frown.gif.

Thanks, jjeff: I wasn't quite sure if the mini ComCast boxes had line outputs, I suspected not but couldn't find an AVS thread to confirm when I posted my insomniac reply early this morning.

PatH, this means if you do in fact currently have ComCast Basic service with the very small "free of charge" DTA decoder, you won't be able to record on a Panasonic import model EH59 or EH69 unless/until you upgrade to the full-feature normal decoder box that has the necessary line output connections. If you already have the standard decoder box, you should be fine: look at the back panel to make sure you have line out connections for video-audio L-audio R (yellow-white-red). Service plans vary, sometimes you can request the normal cable box with Basic, but usually you need Standard service (including channels like TCM). The bigger box itself adds something like $3/mo to the bill, if they insist you upgrade from Basic to Standard plan you could see a $20/mo total increase. Again, if you already have a normal decoder box then nothing changes: just putting this info out there in case you (or anyone in a similar situation) needs it...

I've posted this photo of a Comcast Pace DC50X DTA in 2009 posts:


Edited by DigaDo - 12/6/12 at 9:11pm
post #17 of 31
DigaDo, would you please refresh our memory on the IR dongle seen in your pic? Is it an external remote receiver (so you can hide the mini box in a cabinet or behind the TV)? Also, is it true this DTA uses an IR code unlike any other on the planet, so nothing can control it but its own tiny remote?
post #18 of 31
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Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

DigaDo, would you please refresh our memory on the IR dongle seen in your pic? Is it an external remote receiver (so you can hide the mini box in a cabinet or behind the TV)? Also, is it true this DTA uses an IR code unlike any other on the planet, so nothing can control it but its own tiny remote?

Yes to both questions.

There's more information and photos in the following thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1174894/can-i-use-the-new-comcast-dta-with-my-panasonic-eh50-dvd-recorder/0_60#post_17085223
Edited by DigaDo - 12/6/12 at 10:55pm
post #19 of 31
Thread Starter 
Something new (and not pleasant) has been added to my situation. Last night I set a copy operation from HDD to DVD on my EH-55 and went to bed. This morning I found that copying had failed. I tried again with another disc but got the same result. I then did a reset and unplugged the unit, but the copying still failed (Even had it worked, I would have considered it a most temporary reprieve). I am still able to record to HDD, so naturally, I suspect the DVD, which means that I have no practical way to migrate from HDD to DVD on either Panny. I suppose I could try dumping to a bunch of SD cards, but a cursory investigation there yielded answers in terms of minutes, so it doesn't seem viable.

Accordingly, I will shortly rewire to go from my Panny to my Mag unit but this will of course be real time. I am now seriously hurting and will scour the web looking for an eh-69 as well as upgrade my cable box. Once I've done all that. will I be able to record the extended basic Comcast lineup, or will I still need an exterrnal NTSC tuner? If so. which one, and how will the wiring path go, e. g., cable to box to tuner to DVR or cable to tuner to box to DVR? I'm also getting ready to PM MICKINCT.


Thanks again,

PatH
post #20 of 31
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Originally Posted by PatH View Post

Something new (and not pleasant) has been added to my situation. Last night I set a copy operation from HDD to DVD on my EH-55 and went to bed. This morning I found that copying had failed. I tried again with another disc but got the same result. I then did a reset and unplugged the unit, but the copying still failed (Even had it worked, I would have considered it a most temporary reprieve). I am still able to record to HDD, so naturally, I suspect the DVD, which means that I have no practical way to migrate from HDD to DVD on either Panny. I suppose I could try dumping to a bunch of SD cards, but a cursory investigation there yielded answers in terms of minutes, so it doesn't seem viable.

Accordingly, I will shortly rewire to go from my Panny to my Mag unit but this will of course be real time. I am now seriously hurting and will scour the web looking for an eh-69 as well as upgrade my cable box. Once I've done all that. will I be able to record the extended basic Comcast lineup, or will I still need an exterrnal NTSC tuner? If so. which one, and how will the wiring path go, e. g., cable to box to tuner to DVR or cable to tuner to box to DVR? I'm also getting ready to PM MICKINCT.


Thanks again,

PatH

First things first.

Please read this post and report back as to the noises made by the DVD Drive in your EH55:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1055071/panasonic-2006-and-newer-dvd-drive-hub-spindle-cleaning-and-reassembly-complications/0_60#post_14479898

Mickinct will want to know this information as well as others following this thread.
post #21 of 31
Thread Starter 
I am getting constant u88 on the EH-75. Occasional beep on the EH-55 but on;y a copy failed message. Please understand: Not only do I have no accessible work surface for the DIY repair steps indicated, but my wheelchair limits my mobility and makes even simple rewiring hard enough as is. Thanks again!

PatH
post #22 of 31
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I am getting constant u88 on the EH-75. Occasional beep on the EH-55 but on;y a copy failed message. Please understand: Not only do I have no accessible work surface for the DIY repair steps indicated, but my wheelchair limits my mobility and makes even simple rewiring hard enough as is. Thanks again!

PatH

Are the DVD Drive "beeps" you hear anything like those described in this text from the linked post?

"LISTEN TO THE DVD DRIVE! IT'S TRYING TO TELL YOU WHAT THE MATTER MIGHT BE. The DVD Drive might make "grinding" noises with a soiled rubber hub and spindle area or "clunking," "chugging" or "errrp" noises with a dirty lens or a failed laser assembly. If the "no read" situation persists after the lens and hub/spindle cleaning, there are "clunking," "chugging" or "errrp" noises and/or U61, U88 or U99 errors reported at the front panel display, parts replacement is/are indicated."
post #23 of 31
Heres a box like above but with AV outs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7cxzT-IZGQ

In Australia we did not have what they call in USA 'converter boxes' We were just told to go buy a digital 'set top box' or new TV with digital tuner. Our set top boxes were generally more featured than whats shown in that video and the one pictured above with just RF in and out. The comments in that video are amusing.
Edited by Cyclone82 - 12/10/12 at 11:35pm
post #24 of 31
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Originally Posted by PatH View Post

I am getting constant u88 on the EH-75. Occasional beep on the EH-55 but on;y a copy failed message. Please understand: Not only do I have no accessible work surface for the DIY repair steps indicated, but my wheelchair limits my mobility and makes even simple rewiring hard enough as is. Thanks again!

PatH

I fully agree with jjeff. Listen to the drive and report back to us what exactly you are hearing.
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I am now seriously hurting and will scour the web looking for an eh-69 as well as upgrade my cable box.
The EH69 is available from many sources:

B&H Photo video
World-Import
Amazon.com
Bombay Electronics

And I'm sure there are others as well. I have dealt with all of the above except Bombay Electronics. They are the suppliers for Amazon on the EH69.
Edited by Church AV Guy - 12/11/12 at 10:27am
post #25 of 31
And Gandhi appliances
post #26 of 31
I also think that there is a site called 220 Volt Appliances, or something similar. I have never dealt with them.

Looking at the prices, I'd probably go with World-Import, but maybe a better deal is out there.
post #27 of 31
I have a question regarding the EH59/69 models:

as has been mentioned in the past, the black levels for these units are set for international calibration which is 7.5 IRE off from our USA standard , causing the picture to appear either lighter or darker than normal, (I forget which)

is there such a thing as an inline composite/s-video video lightener/darkener that will adjust the picture by the 7.5 IRE units that is off so that the end result is what we should be seeing in North America?

thanks in advance

Bill
post #28 of 31
Recordings you make will look slightly lighter when played back on a standard N. American DVD player and for your second question.....not that myself or ChurchAV Guy have ever found frown.gif You could try and track down a old Proc Amp or a newer TBC that has picture adjustments would work but Proc Amps are hard to find and TBCs with picture adjustments are close to $200.
Again if you are recording from a device that has a DARKER setting(most better DVD players I've seen has such a setting) you will be OK(this is what I use almost exclusively to feed my EH-59s) but things like VHS players or cable/satellite STBs or DVR do not have such a setting.
It would be nice and I would think relatively cheap for someone like AVS member LogicDesign to design such a in-line(S-video/composite) device that only darkened a input by +7.5 IRE but how much call he would have for it would be another story. Few of these machines are probably sold to people in N. America and even fewer people seem to notice the issue or care.
I don't notice it too much recording VHS since VHS isn't that great of a source to start out with but with a high quality source, especially one that had lots of dark scenes or white titles on a black background it should be noticeable.
post #29 of 31
I would be primarily using it to dub old sporting events from VCR, and for recording new events from a cable box

Do these units have the same issue with widescreen 16:9 as my eh55 does?
Or is that all a problem via my cable box not outputting 16:9 properly via a-video/composite?
Currently being discussed in another thread
post #30 of 31
Because they don't have component inputs, yes they would also have the issue of not recording full screen if thats what your cable box outputs, the only way around that is one of the converters that convert the WS HD to WS SD. The EH-59 does have one advantage over the EH-55 and most any other DVDR in that it can set the WS bit. What this means is if you make a WS DVD on the EH-59 and play that DVD back on a 4:3 TV the picture will be letterboxed. Without the bit the picture would look horizontally squished, IOW the whole 16:9 picture would be squeezed on your 4:3 TV instead of the correct aspect ratio of having black bars on top and bottom of the picture. If you don't have a 4:3 TV this will kind of be a moot point, it does not help you get full screen 16:9 if your cable box only outputs letterboxed 16:9.
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