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post #211 of 244
I really want to try this unit out. I recently picked up the LG 84LM9600 4K set and I'd love to give this unit a shot. I called them earlier today and asked when they're shipping and I couldn't get a solid answer that sounded like anytime soon that could have just been that particular rep however.
post #212 of 244
When is not answerable at this time. In late December they encouraged pre orders and said the first batch would ship in January.

The reality is that there are things going on, things being worked on and who knows what else. But since they are the only game in town, they can take as long as they want and it really has no effect on you. You will get it whenever they ship it and you have no other alternative but to wait and enjoy your display upscaling content, Of course you coukd buy a computer with the right graphics card etc and output 4K. But you will need sources and even if redray ships this month or next, there are no essentially no 4K sources you can go out and buy or have delivered. Until something like Odemax actually becomes real and some content providers make source content available on it, the device for the consumer market is very limited.

The device will work and it will look good. Its basically just a server. Its for us about content and that is up to others, not Red.

I have preordered the Redray too. But if it showed up at my house today, what could I do with it? play a Bluray through it? Why?

I will start bitching to them when content is available if their Redray player isn't.
Edited by mark haflich - 5/21/13 at 12:58pm
post #213 of 244
I would hope I could play some 4k content on my htpc when content becomes available. Just ordered a new gpu for it biggrin.gif.

Does anyone know if this unit (RedRay) has expendable storage? Like through USB enclosures etc?
post #214 of 244
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

I would hope I could play some 4k content on my htpc when content becomes available. Just ordered a new gpu for it biggrin.gif.

Does anyone know if this unit (RedRay) has expendable storage? Like through USB enclosures etc?
It has 1TB of internal storage. Some have said that will hold about 100 hours of 4K movies with .RED codec.
The content can be offloaded to an external server but has to be re-loaded to be played.
You can also play or load from USB drive and SD card.


post #215 of 244
Also i read somewhere that another 1T of storage can be added.
post #216 of 244
So Red shared some new information today, but it was all about images from a prototype of the new Camera sensor that has a resolution of 6144 x 3160 pixel.
All questions about Redray player and projector where answered with that they are coming along great and they are very sorry that things take longer than they anticipated.

Red seems quite happy with the Sony 84" 4K TV and showed a picture of the video from the new sensor playing from a Redray player at 9Mb/s in 4K.

post #217 of 244
How about a link?

If i were the drafter, which I wasn't, that would have been my answer knowing absolutely nothing. Things are coming along great and we are sorry for the delay. Sounds like the captain of the Titanic after it hit the ice berg. tNo clue as to why or when. Typical. Maybe Ted wrote it?
Edited by mark haflich - 10/9/13 at 5:57am
post #218 of 244
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

How about a link?
Not much to link to regarding Redray. It is barely mentioned in the Recon section on the Red forum in one of the three threads started by Jannard and Jarred today(yesterday?); http://www.reduser.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?31-Recon
Just click the Red Team buttons to surf past the usual noise.
Edited by coolscan - 2/8/13 at 1:29pm
post #219 of 244
post #220 of 244
Looks sweet. I assume the downside is no / little studio support.
post #221 of 244
Hmmm! Is this a slip of the tongue/premature announcement? Not a official word or even a hint on this from RED.
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English says that Netflix will use the REDRAY Player to support the roll out of its 4K VOD service. They are doing verification testing now and should be ready soon.
post #222 of 244

Redray 4K player with Odemax -Could this be the better than Bluray we have all

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Originally Posted by coolscan View Post

Hmmm! Is this a slip of the tongue/premature announcement? Not a official word or even a hint on this from RED.
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English says that Netflix will use the REDRAY Player to support the roll out of its 4K VOD service. They are doing verification testing now and should be ready soon.

I'd guess more of a journalist misinterpreting a quote.

English: a product with an efficient codec like this could even be used by a company like Netflix to launch a 4K VOD service.

"Journalist": Got it! Netflix is using this for 4K VOD!
post #223 of 244
post #224 of 244
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

RedRay is shipping now. smile.gif
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?101659-REDRAY-NOW-SHIPPING
but no movie content for it. Yeah.....
post #225 of 244
It comes with demo material preloaded. Movie content will come from Odemax and possibly others. Details are not available yet. Since I did not buy it for playing movies except my own stuff it does not matter much to me at the moment what is available and when.
post #226 of 244
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Originally Posted by mhafner View Post

RedRay is shipping now. smile.gif
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?101659-REDRAY-NOW-SHIPPING

Wow that's unbelievable, nearly 7 months later and no content to boot. Bring on the Sony FMP-X1 I say. Red, you overshot it by a mile. I've never been so underwhelmed by a launch every I don't think. Pity I was excited for the first 6 weeks of the preorder, till it turned into temporary vaporware.
post #227 of 244
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Originally Posted by OzHDHT View Post

Wow that's unbelievable, nearly 7 months later and no content to boot. Bring on the Sony FMP-X1 I say. Red, you overshot it by a mile. I've never been so underwhelmed by a launch every I don't think. Pity I was excited for the first 6 weeks of the preorder, till it turned into temporary vaporware.
You mean the "cookie box" that was announced six months ago that use a codec from a no name start-up and can only be used on Sony displays and has no release date? rolleyes.gif
(still says in the Sony store that it will only work on the Sony 55" and 65" UHD TVs.)
post #228 of 244
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Originally Posted by coolscan View Post

You mean the "cookie box" that was announced six months ago that use a codec from a no name start-up and can only be used on Sony displays and has no release date? rolleyes.gif
(still says in the Sony store that it will only work on the Sony 55" and 65" UHD TVs.)

But it is still going to be something usable since they actually have content, until redray gets some good content it is just a fancy paperweight for most users and since sony owns most of the good 4K content currently available it might not happen any time soon if ever. IMO the sony player is something temporary until H.265 and hdmi 2.0 are standardized.
post #229 of 244
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Originally Posted by Axel Fransberg View Post

... and since sony owns most of the good 4K content currently available it might not happen any time soon if ever. IMO the sony player is something temporary until H.265 and hdmi 2.0 are standardized.

All the major studios do have 4K uncompressed masters of a few recent releases as well as remastered classics on the shelf. The question is if they will release them in a consumer marketplace. So far only Sony has a published plan to do that. Time will tell.
Edited by Glimmie - 6/19/13 at 4:30pm
post #230 of 244
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Originally Posted by coolscan View Post

You mean the "cookie box" that was announced six months ago that use a codec from a no name start-up and can only be used on Sony displays and has no release date? rolleyes.gif
(still says in the Sony store that it will only work on the Sony 55" and 65" UHD TVs.)

Well I've certainly got a whole hell of a lot more faith in Sony's 4K player offering and announcements to date. As well as their product history of delivering to market on time. They're not the ones who said they'd be selling a device in Jan, then go to ground for six months. Not to mention the nebulous nature of their 'Odemax' content platform with not a single title being announced. I believe Joerod has already been in touch with Sony about compatibility and also getting the same discount offered to Sony 4K TV buyers for Sony VW1000 Projector owners. I'd really like to see Sony turn around and sh*t on their highest end (many in the content industry) owners and make the FMP-X1 incompatible with the VW1000..
post #231 of 244
Well, they can put their "cookie box" next to their new Mac "cookie jar" and together they should have great waf coolscan ! wink.gif
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post #233 of 244
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I don't see the discs costing the same. They may cost the same to stamp, but the costs for new tooling and infrastructure for the encoding and authoring will have to be included.

Discs? I thought Red was planning to release movies on USB drives.
post #234 of 244
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

Discs? I thought Red was planning to release movies on USB drives.

That was a hypothetical comment (from me). That is IF a 4K consumer optical disk standard ever develops.
post #235 of 244
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Originally Posted by Kei Clark View Post

Discs? I thought Red was planning to release movies on USB drives.
Movies on RedRay will mostly come from downloades from Odemax, but can be distributed on USB sticks or SD cards.
Red will not be in the business of distributing movies.
Odemax (demo page) will supposedly launch in mid July according to their Twitter feed (13 June).
post #236 of 244
It has been confirmed that the sony server will work with the 1000ES and that those who own the 84 inch sony will get the new server to replace their present server, so I assume compatibility with the 84 incher. Moreover preset 10000ES owners and 55 and 65 inch owners will get a $200 discount if they register on the sony store site for the discount. that would make the price to them $499.
post #237 of 244
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Originally Posted by mark haflich View Post

It has been confirmed that the sony server will work with the 1000ES and that those who own the 84 inch sony will get the new server to replace their present server, so I assume compatibility with the 84 incher. Moreover preset 10000ES owners and 55 and 65 inch owners will get a $200 discount if they register on the sony store site for the discount. that would make the price to them $499.


That is good to hear. What is unknown at this point is if Sony has figured out how to properly stream the audio contained on the 4K video files. The current server will not stream multichannel audio unless you have a pre/pro or AVR with a 4K EDID configuration.. You cannot connect the 4K HDMI output directly to the display and then feed another HDMI or digital connection to your non 4K pre/pro or AVR . You are stuck with a stereo optical digital connection. Further the video files do not have a Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master audio audio source as a selectable option.
So you watch the beautiful $25,000.00 4K display and listen to compressed stereo sound.
Edited by thestewman - 6/29/13 at 2:29pm
post #238 of 244
Anyone?! Considering buying this now.
post #239 of 244
I think the info some while ago was that RED would be at CEDIA. Does anyone have any current info about this?
post #240 of 244
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Tong View Post

Anyone?! Considering buying this now.
Buying what?
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Originally Posted by millerwill View Post

I think the info some while ago was that RED would be at CEDIA. Does anyone have any current info about this?

Red had a booth at Cedia, even found it on the floor plan some time ago (#4026), but now its gone. Seems like they have pulled out, which is not a good sign for the possibility for any launch of Odemax/Redray or a Red projector this year.

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Edited by coolscan - 9/17/13 at 6:33am
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