Originally Posted by bdraw
I hate to throw a wet towel on this, but the DTCP requirement could kill everything that is great about this. When I first read this, I was pretty optimistic. But then I remember my early days in HD. The first technical writing I ever did was here at AVSForum, it was a post on how to record to Windows XP via 1394
. The motivation there was spurred by the 1394 requirement of the FCC Plug n' Play agreement. A big reason why recording via 1394 never caught on was because of DTCP, while there was plenty of devices with 1394, there weren't many that supported DTCP. Fast forward to five years ago, you might recall CableLabs certifying DTCP-IP, but still to this day I don't know of any implementation that is in use. In fact, I believe the HDHR Prime to PS3, will be the first -- would love to be corrected on this one.
All that being said, being able to watch Live TV on a PS3 via a HDHR Prime is cool, but not practically useful. As Sammy2 pointed out, we need to be able to record. But even more so, we need an enjoyable way to record and playback content; and so far, enjoyable DLNA experience is an oxymoron.
I believe SD has a grand plan, and I look forward to it being revealed, but my excitement is tempered for now, as I'm experiencing Deja Vu.
All good points. I really wasn't that excited at this news. While it is big news, it's not really for those with an HTPC. The Prime will ONLY be capable of supplying live TV. There will be no recording functionality because there is nowhere on the device to store the recordings. (That said, I wouldn't be surprised if SD enabled the USB ports for the TAs to allow a hard drive to be connected.)
Now a separate DLNA server (device or application) that has also licensed DTCP-IP (for the case of encrypted content) could request the stream from the Prime and serve as the recording device but for a PC application, there would be no point to this. They would need to license DTCP-IP and
a DRM protection like PlayReady. Or they could just license PlayReady for half the cost (eliminating DTCP-IP) and use the DRI interface (directly or using the PBDA Directshow wrapper filters) like Windows Media Center.
We are not the target customers for this functionality, people with Smart TVs and devices that don't care about recordings are. I'm not knocking SD, this is a smart play for them. They just created the opportunity to move from Techies to the Average Joe, not a small feat for their market.
Originally Posted by t-c
So if Prime serves live TV including Premium channels directly to all these devices XBOX, PS3, Samsung TV's, Phones, Tablets whatever, where does the Program Guide come from on all these devices?
The guide will show up like any other content. The Prime will present what is currently airing as a list of available videos to watch (as if they were on a hard drive somewhere). When you select one, the Prime will tune to the appropriate channel (instead of reading a file) and stream it to the device.
For those interested in the technical specifications:
Aired programs will be listed by the ContentDirectory Service of the DLNA MediaServer device. If the Prime had recording capabilities, it would also implement the ScheduledRecording Service. You can read about them at http://upnp.org/specs/av/av4/