JVC X35 or 4810

He was asking about the X35 in comparison to the 4810, not the RS35. All these are getting a bit confusing!

I guess the question would be is e-shift 2, a CMS, and an additionaly year of warranty worth the extra price? Personally, I'm fine with the lower end JVC as I know that the likelyhood of me upgrading the following year is highly possible and I know the price difference won't be recouped when the projector is sold.

I am really curious about this as well. The general consensus with eshift1 was you needed close seating to see the benefit, but supposedly with eshift2 you can see benefit from a further view distance. The question becomes at what view distance does the majority of the benefit roll off with eshift2? You look like you will be at a 1.7 view distance which might be pushing it as far as how effective eshift 2 will actually be, but again we dont know yet for sure and I am very curious to find out myself. The other question is how much further will eshift2 bring you if you already have a Darbee and again how does view distance effect all this? It will be interesting to read reports on this as they become available.

I'm in a similar position, though being in the UK it's X35 verses X55 (rather than RS48/4810) for me, plus I have no interest in 3D. To add to the confusion, I already have an Isco II lens (with existing HD350 and Mini3D), so it would be X35 plus lens or X55 without lens (zooming) as the lens sale would help cover some of the difference.

I saw the X55 zoomed to full size (4 metres wide 2.35:1 screen) last weekend and thought that the Eshift gave a visible improvement from a similar viewing angle to my own. However, I was a little underwhelmed by the black level (it was a very good room with black floor, walls and ceiling) but this may have been due to the full zoom and iris being half way open. My own set up is minimum zoom and hopefully near fully closed iris, which should help. It's just I was hoping for more of a marked improvement over my much older HD350. I've been considering other options, such as the Sony '50 or '95, but not sure these would offer any better blacks, though possibly higher ANSI contrast. I've probably left it too late for an ex display X70 for a bigger contrast improvement, (I missed out on an X9 though that would have still needed the lens due to the lack of Eshift or lens memory). I'd prefer a white case as it's a living room, which also restricts my choice, though I may have to accept I can't have a white option as PQ will take precedence.

Last time I upgraded (from AE3000 to the HD350) I really noticed the improved blacks and no longer found dark films/scenes a chore to watch. I'd like to see some kind of similar improvement for all the expense, but I'm wondering if I'd need a much bigger budget to really 'blow me away'. Hoping to see the X55 and VW50ES on a smaller screen soon to try to make some kind of decision (even if it's to buy a new lamp for the HD350 and keep it another year ).

I unfortunately had to cancel my preorder for the RS4810 but if I didn't already have a JVC RS40 and was considering either the X35/RS46 or the RS4810 I would choose the RS4810 without a doubt. All of the reports of eshift1 were positive last year and with the supposed improvements to the eshift2 this year plus the extra year warranty the RS4810 is the one to get. I know money is a factor as was the reason for me canceling my preorder for the 4810 but if you can afford it, get it......cause if you don't the whole time you are watching the X35/RS46 you will be asking yourself what it would look like with eshift2.

Mike

bummer Mike

I was told that 4810 benefits from better quality control ie. hand selected components vs it's lower brother. Whether that is just marketing spill who knows although I can see E shift might need better optics.
Getting CMS build in means I can sell my IScan Duo so to me the extra cost is basically CMS wih E shift thrown in for free.

Thanks Ed,

I had a transmission go out about 3 weeks ago and had to use my projector money to replace it. Luckily though I am still happy with my RS40/Panamorph UH480/2.35 setup. This way also I can hear about the RS4810 and either get one later or wait for next year's models.

Mike

check out the thread again, Ricky seems to be thinking something was off with the x55 blacks (or at least the gamma/shadow details) during the testing:

http://www.avforums.com/forums/18105512-post76.html

Yes, I've been communicating with Ricky on that thread too. I'm planning on seeing the X55 (and Sony VW50ES) using a BluRay player rather than a HTPC hopefully soon at Ricky's place.

I think for the money you cannot go wrong adding the Darbee to any projector you end up with.

If you have the money for the 4810 and get a less expensive model, won't you be always wondering if you should have got the 4810 instead?

I also do not think that you can compare amy projector to the VT50.

But he might consider buying the X35 and a Radiance Mini for about the same cost (have great 2D and additional functionality long term e.g. exceptional CMS as well as other capabilities)