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Had my heart set on a panny plasma sense the S/ST30 came out, not I foind out about ABL... I'm so...

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I really just wanna go get some cheap 46-50" X-mas deal LCD and be done with all this...

Right now all I have is a 32's Sansui K-mart black friday deal from like 2007 shadow detail is awful and its brighter all the way around the edges. That TV I got for my birthday when I was like 17 so I was pretty happy with it, with a 100' Ethernet I took that thing and gamed with it every where, 720 is like heaven coming from standard deff but when I got old enough I knew there was something better.

I have discovered forums are generally were all the smart experienced people are and they have helped me fix my car and buy flashlight, headphones, speakers, ect. and now I'm a gear head, audiophile, flashaholic but anyway when I was old enough I knew there were better TV's out there so I asked on here. I'm in a dark room and wanted low latency for gaming so I decided on a 42" ST30, my friends parents actually got a 50" S30 and the thing looks marvelous, but after buying a surround sound and losing my job I never got around to it and I'm glad I waited because the ST50 is apparently so much better, I was pissed it only comes in a 50" in the US but what ever I'll get a 50".

Actually I wanna get the GT50 being only a little more right now, but after looking at the UT50 at best buy (long story short) I noticed ABL but I thought it was just because it was at best buy and not in a dark room, and after all its not the ST. Then I start reading on here before I pull the trigger and find all this mess about rising blacks and ABL. Why does CNET rate these thing so good for the general public?

ABL seems worse to me than having light blacks? At least the blacks stay that way and don't change every seen, and ABL is getting worse every year? I DON'T GIVE A CRAP ABOUT EFFICIENCY. My TV can take as much electricity as an electric heater, use it to heat my room in the winter and turn the furnace down, and I'll run it of its own dedicated outlet with a power conditioner and wire in a 50 farad cap if it would be the best looking thing ever but nooooo they have to go and put in ABL mad.gif.

Someone jokingly made a comment that they never watched polar bears in snow storms so ABL didn't bother them, but that made me thing what about the crazy beautiful nature doc's like Planet Earth? Thats one reason I wanted a great TV, so on the Arctic stuff I have to deal with every thing being gray? I just don't get it.

Am I worrying to much? What can I do? Should I save up for the Sharp ELITE? or another LCD with full array LED local dimming, or is the VT50 any better? or what about the old ELITE KURO's, is that why they are so sought after? Why does high end stuff have to be so complicated?
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And I also wanted to run my computer on this, guess that isn't happening mad.gif, although my friends never looked bad on there S30?
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I've only owned a GT50 as far as plasmas go, but bottom line based on what I've read and seen - if you're watching (or playing) anything where white takes up 70% of the screen or more and expect the whites to stay bright, you're barking up the wrong tree looking into plasmas. Otherwise, this particular set is fantastic. It's a shame really...
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Why does CNET rate these thing so good for the general public?
ABL seems worse to me than having light blacks? At least the blacks stay that way and don't change every seen, and ABL is getting worse every year?
High black level (aka, low contrast) makes everything on a display look horrible, whereas as ABL is only rarely a problem. Other than when watching commercials, I don't often notice ABL.
And FYI, it is not just CNET -- every professional reviewer rates most plasmas above most or all LCDs. Take a look at other review sites and the ratings from the 2012 Flat Panel Shootout. Anyhow, if you hate ABL so much, then buy an LCD.
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Why do they even put ABL in TV's? For efficiency or to get an energy star rating or what? Why would you intentionally flaw a great product? It so retarded.

So are most plasmas ABL the same or have they gotten worse?

There are no good looking mid priced LCD's...
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I'm not an expert but I would imagine without ABL, plasmas would experience overheating problems.
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Then make it thicker and add some fans....

I just don't get why I have never heard of this in a year and a half of plasma research :?

Does ABL get worse the larger the set gets? How about Panny vs Samsung?

Any one suggest me some under $1000 42-50" LCD's that are good for gaming and look good?
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