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SHOW ME SOME FORUMS SO THAT I MAY SHRED IN A CREATIVE WAY THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE

Are you and Oink an effective team?
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Are you and Oink an effective team?
AFAIK....LOL.wink.gif
post #303 of 539
I knew that question was going to come up at some point!

That reference appears to be the signature element to this movie, right?...or did that idea come from another movie, too?
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The answer is ALWAYS yes, or prepare to be eliminated for your "ineffectiveness"!
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26 LETTERS! ALL STOLEN!

OK, I just lost it. biggrin.gif
post #306 of 539
Effective team, for the win.
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I agree - I saw lots of elements from some of those movies you list, but I'm curious what element of Blade Runner stuck out to you? I'm a Blade Runner nut and I can't recall what scene was borrowed there.

not a specific scene, but Deckers question of his origin
post #308 of 539
I haven't read through this thread, and the page above probably means that's a good thing. And, though the movie was just good and not great to me, I really loved the design on this movie. The house, the bubble ship, the graphics on the work surface table, etc... It's all really well done.
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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey View Post

I haven't read through this thread, and the page above probably means that's a good thing. And, though the movie was just good and not great to me, I really loved the design on this movie. The house, the bubble ship, the graphics on the work surface table, etc... It's all really well done.

+1
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Are you and Oink an effective team?

LOL, that's quite funny!! tongue.gif
post #311 of 539
I just wish I could have my memory erased after suffering through it.
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I thought the ideas, the technical work, the acting and writing were excellent/very good - 4 out of 5 stars. Both viewings have been enjoyable, with more to come.

To give a frame of reference, since this movie seems to be generally disliked, I thought "Man Of Steel" wasn't so great. (However, Chris Nolan, writer of MOS made a winner with "Inception", IMO.)
And, I think "Pacific Rim" is a better movie than MOS. As "Toe" said in the Pacific Rim thread: "This movie is flat out HT fun! It would be easy to pick it apart, but why? It doesn't take itself seriously and try to be something it's not. It's big dumb fun and on that level it works very well IMO.

Btw, I thought the now rather ancient movie "Solaris" was excellent as well.
Edited by Cyrano - 11/28/13 at 8:53pm
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I thought the ideas, the technical work, the acting and writing were excellent/very good - 4 out of 5 stars. Both viewings have been enjoyable, with more to come.

To give a frame of reference, since this movie seems to be generally disliked, I thought "Man Of Steel" wasn't so great. (However, Chris Nolan, writer of MOS made a winner with "Inception", IMO.)
And, I think "Pacific Rim" is a better movie than MOS. As "Toe" said in the Pacific Rim thread: "This movie is flat out HT fun! It would be easy to pick it apart, but why? It doesn't take itself seriously and try to be something it's not. It's big dumb fun and on that level it works very well IMO.

Btw, I thought the now rather ancient movie "Solaris" was excellent as well.

Haha - you brought Solaris in to defend Oblivion? Shields up. Battlestations.

(I liked that movie too but man I lost a lot of reputation when I recommended it to others).
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Haha - you brought Solaris in to defend Oblivion? Shields up. Battlestations.

(I liked that movie too but man I lost a lot of reputation when I recommended it to others).

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Well, I think my strategy was to show how completely out of step I am with the status quo. I thought perhaps there would be head waggling and some smug giggles, and that I would be left essentially to myself, barely noticed. And now my stain of bad taste in "Space Westerns" is doubled in size. :0

Solaris lacks the photon torpedoes and such that Space flicks require but it has an intriguing love story that makes one think. Too many strikes against it, I agree. A pretty good commentary track with Soderbergh and Cameron too.
Edited by Cyrano - 12/3/13 at 9:10am
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Well, I think my strategy was to show how completely out of step I am with the status quo. I thought perhaps there would be head waggling and some smug giggles, and that I would be left essentially to myself, barely noticed. And now my stain of bad taste in "Space Westerns" is doubled in size. :0

Solaris lacks the photon torpedoes and such that Space flicks require but it has an intriguing love story that makes one think. Too many strikes against it, I agree. A pretty good commentary track with Soderbergh and Cameron too.

I particularly liked the haunting soundtrack by Cliff Martinez. Many other movies have used a similar sound since then and I always think it's his work only to look it up and it's someone I've never heard of. He used a similar style in Traffic and Drive too.
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I liked Solaris, more so than Oblivion.
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I liked Solaris, more so than Oblivion.
I was surprised to find that I liked Oblivion as much as I did. I liked that it had a happy ending, I guess. And I liked that no one sat down and explained everything to the audience through some character's narration.
Edited by Cyrano - 12/3/13 at 5:17pm
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Originally Posted by HD Hockey Guy View Post

I particularly liked the haunting soundtrack by Cliff Martinez. Many other movies have used a similar sound since then and I always think it's his work only to look it up and it's someone I've never heard of. He used a similar style in Traffic and Drive too.
I've gotten new gear since my last viewing of Solaris, and I don't remember the music so I'll check it out again. cool.gif
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I particularly liked the haunting soundtrack by Cliff Martinez. Many other movies have used a similar sound since then and I always think it's his work only to look it up and it's someone I've never heard of. He used a similar style in Traffic and Drive too.

Yes. The soundtrack is beautiful. It was so integral and interwoven throughout the movie that I wondered if he composed it after the movie was put together or did it in conjunction with the director/editor.

Good movie. About 2nd chances and redemption. About many things.
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Yes. The soundtrack is beautiful. It was so integral and interwoven throughout the movie that I wondered if he composed it after the movie was put together or did it in conjunction with the director/editor.

Good movie. About 2nd chances and redemption. About many things.

Not to get too far removed from the Oblivion discussion, but most composers write the music after the movie is shot and at least rough edited to match the music to the scenes and add another "character". John Williams was the master at this. Youtube has a bunch of shorts about the process of collaborating with Lucas for the Star Wars saga and tweaking the score to fit the scenes and almost tell the story without any dialogue needed. You can often see a big screen in the sound stage for everyone to see what scene they are recording for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mltk5YYCHuY

and here's Martinez himself talking about how he scored Drive. They gave him the rough cut it sounds like before he even wrote a piece of music for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTwpfUbkxcQ
Edited by HD Hockey Guy - 12/10/13 at 7:15am
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Interesting stuff, thanks.
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It's a very rare privilege for a composer to work before post-production.

Working with rough cuts can be a double-edged sword too, you start developing themes and your musical patchwork, and then some scenes are edited and don't have the same meaning.
But well that's how it's done so you adapt... smile.gif
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Thanks HD Hockey Guy.
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All this talk has me ready to watch it again but until then:
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Finally saw this. I actually thought the story- which was pretty universally derided- was not all that bad, and the various twists were fairly ingenious.

But there was Tom Cruise to deal with. I find him extremely difficult to watch: partly due to his real-life shenanigans, which is actually unfair (Mel Gibson suffers the same fate with me and many, many others) and restly with his acting style, which is cold, closed in and devoid of much in the way of humanity. In films like this where one is called upon to identify with his character's sensitivity and humanity I just don't buy it. I could take him much more easily in War of the Worlds, Jack Reacher, or Minority Report, where he portrays difficult people. His leading ladies in Oblivion mitigated his coldness, and that helped somewhat.

I like movies where the production design is the major element, and that helped too. But Oblivion is not the equal of Elysium, and certainly comes nowhere near Gravity.
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Finally saw this. I actually thought the story- which was pretty universally derided- was not all that bad, and the various twists were fairly ingenious.

But there was Tom Cruise to deal with. I find him extremely difficult to watch: partly due to his real-life shenanigans, which is actually unfair (Mel Gibson suffers the same fate with me and many, many others) and restly with his acting style, which is cold, closed in and devoid of much in the way of humanity. In films like this where one is called upon to identify with his character's sensitivity and humanity I just don't buy it. I could take him much more easily in War of the Worlds, Jack Reacher, or Minority Report, where he portrays difficult people. His leading ladies in Oblivion mitigated his coldness, and that helped somewhat.

I like movies where the production design is the major element, and that helped too. But Oblivion is not the equal of Elysium, and certainly comes nowhere near Gravity.

Valid point.
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But Oblivion is not the equal of Elysium, and certainly comes nowhere near Gravity.
I liked Oblivion better than Elysium. Except for Kruger. He has an awesome beard. As a bearded man, I appreciate them. But he has a sword and I don't, so now I have that to deal with.
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I liked Oblivion better than Elysium. Except for Kruger. He has an awesome beard. As a bearded man, I appreciate them. But he has a sword and I don't, so now I have that to deal with.

If only hurrycane.com had a sword model....
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Oblivion has opened on HBO now and I sett to record.
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If only hurrycane.com had a sword model....

Plenty of sword canes available on the 'net, but be careful knowing they are almost uniformly illegal to carry, and often, even own.
Edited by Distorted - 1/17/14 at 8:06am
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Oblivion has opened on HBO now and I sett to record.
Plenty of sword canes available on the 'net, but be careful knowing they are almost uniformly illegal to carry, and often, even own.

So. smile.gif
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