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post #7291 of 9406
I wish they would redo the lineup for HD and put the Basic HD in the 700 range and Digital HD in the 800 range.
post #7292 of 9406
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

I wish they would redo the lineup for HD and put the Basic HD in the 700 range and Digital HD in the 800 range.

What's the difference? (all HD is digital...or do you mean the HD equivalents of channels 1-27 vs. 28-444?)
post #7293 of 9406
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Originally Posted by JoelWNelson View Post

What's the difference? (all HD is digital...or do you mean the HD equivalents of channels 1-27 vs. 28-444?)

no I mean Discovery is channel 37, but the HD version is 812. If the channel is in the 2-70 put the hd version in the 700 range digital channels would be in the 800's along with the channels that have no nonhd channel like Discovery HD Theater.
post #7294 of 9406
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

no I mean Discovery is channel 37, but the HD version is 812. If the channel is in the 2-70 put the hd version in the 700 range digital channels would be in the 800's along with the channels that have no nonhd channel like Discovery HD Theater.

Not to argue about it but I think it makes more sense to group channels based on genre. We're nearing a point where the HD choices are almost a full lineup in themselves, so having similar channels grouped together makes more sense to me than having to remember the location of the HD channel's SD counterpart. Moving forward, grouping HD by genre would seem better than grouping HD channels based on the SD tier.

Having moved into Omaha last year (from the semi-rural Sarpy suburbs) the channel lineup I've learned is the HD one... the analog and SD counterparts don't really ring a bell. I only go below ch. 705 if I want to watch a program that's not available on a HD channel. So the current lineup seems to make sense with 700-719 being locals, 720s being news, 730s and 740s sports, 750s a mix of drama and comedy programming, 760s TV movie channels, 770s home/garden type stuff, etc. Only ones that don't necessarily fit are some of the channels in the 750s and 820s/850s as it seems like those could be organized or reassigned... such as it would make sense for WGN and TBS to go together as they have similar formats...
post #7295 of 9406
I have to agree with Joel on this one, athought at first I thought adding 700 to the channels numbers would be better. I'm used to the HD channel numbers now and have most in a FAV setting on the remote so I like the way the HD channels are grouped better than the < 70 channels. Having said that I'm not sure why they switched 29/30 to the other way for the ESPN channels. I think the whole HD lineup config is setup for pay tiers really, not sure when it will happen but it will happen, I'm sure.
post #7296 of 9406
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Originally Posted by rmalbers View Post

I have to agree with Joel on this one, athought at first I thought adding 700 to the channels numbers would be better. I'm used to the HD channel numbers now and have most in a FAV setting on the remote so I like the way the HD channels are grouped better than the < 70 channels. Having said that I'm not sure why they switched 29/30 to the other way for the ESPN channels. I think the whole HD lineup config is setup for pay tiers really, not sure when it will happen but it will happen, I'm sure.

The reason that the two Epsn's are like that is because they didn't want to move Espn 31 to 30 when they moved Espn because that would be to much work work is what they said when I asked them that same question On the HD channel suggestion if they group them fine, but why not use the SD channel number with the the 7 or 8 if there is one already? FSN perfect example channel 47 should be 747 not 745.
post #7297 of 9406
OK, yes that makes since. AMC might be another example of that situation.
post #7298 of 9406
if it went the way I suggested
705 KMTVHD
708 WOWTHD
709 KETVHD
710 KPTMHD
711 KXVOHD
712 NETV HD
713 IPTVHD
News channels would be in the 700's
along with sports, family,shoppiing (QVC)
800's would have the premium channels and channels that have no SD counterpart.
post #7299 of 9406
Does anyone know if Cox is picking up all the Royals games this year? This is an article from last year on what I'm referring to:

Published Friday April 11, 2008
Differing TV packages leave some baseball fans frustrated
BY MITCH SHERMAN
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

If Omaha-area television viewers were upset over missing the Kansas City Royals and New York Yankees on Wednesday and Thursday nights, they should get used to it.

The two games were among 40 this season offered by Fox Sports Net-Kansas City (formerly FSN Midwest) that Omaha's Cox Communications elected not to purchase.

Cox will air about 100 Royals games this year, including tonight against Minnesota, the same total as last year.

FSN-KC added 40 games from the 2008 schedule, negotiating terms with individual cable and satellite companies. Among the providers set to show the entire 140-game Royal slate: Time Warner Cable in Lincoln, DirecTV, Dish Network and Omaha's Qwest Choice TV.

Kristin Peck, vice president of government and public affairs for Cox in Omaha, said executives here not at company headquarters in Atlanta decided on the abbreviated schedule.

"We understand that we have a group of people in Omaha who do have a passion for baseball and the Royals," Peck said.

The costs incurred by Cox to broadcast the additional 40 games, however, would have been passed on to all customers, Peck said, and were not in the best interest of Cox's entire subscriber base.

In Lincoln, no rate increase followed the purchase of the full schedule of games, said Ann Shrewsbury, director of public affairs for Time Warner's Nebraska division.

"Realize that all of the negotiations that programmers do with different companies are completely different," Shrewsbury said.

Shrewsbury said Royals broadcasts have been a "big thing over the years" for Time Warner customers. With the Royals playing well this month and former Nebraska star Alex Gordon in the lineup, she said, interest remains high.

The Lincoln company is also looking at the option of providing games this year in high definition. FSN is offering the Royals in high definition 88 times, including all 40 of the games not shown by Cox, according Geoff Goldman, media relations manager for FSN-KC.

Peck said Cox had not received many complaints over its scheduling decision.

Cox customers in Wichita, Kan., and Topeka, Kan., are in a similar situation. Charter Communications, which serves many communities in central and western Nebraska, also opted for the shortened schedule.

K.C. matchups with Minnesota on Saturday and Sunday are among the 40 missing games. On Thursday night, Cox viewers missed a pitching appearance by another ex-Nebraska star, Joba Chamberlain, who threw a scoreless 11/3 innings in the Yankees' 6-1 win over the Royals.

Instead, "Sport Science," "Best Damn Top 50 Special," "FSN Presents: Nothin' But Knockouts" and "The FSN Final Score" aired during the baseball game.

Goldman said FSN-KC remains in discussions with Cox to reach a deal for the remaining schedule of additional games. But according to Peck, don't expect to see them on Cox in Omaha.

"Not to my knowledge," Peck said. "It's my understanding that we have opted not to take them."
post #7300 of 9406
With one week left it doesn't sound good.

not even a schedule of the games yet.
post #7301 of 9406
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Originally Posted by nitty316 View Post

I am finally making the switch. Cox's squabbles on getting the Royals on here in Omaha was the final straw. I started looking more at DIRECT this weekend and decided enough was enough. That and Cox said they had no idea if or when they would have FSNHD or USAHD or SCIFIHD etc. I just decided, for what I want, I am not going to ever be pleased with Cox, so why continue worrying about it. If I spend a little more with DTV, that's okay, I'm getting what I want. I have never seen the Royals in HD, that's insane and will soon change. The only HD channel I am losing is NETHD, but I can get that OTA, and they really don't show all that much in HD anyway. I had always stayed with Cox because I thought it was cheaper, but it really isn't. I'm hoping to get my install scheduled today. I'm excited.

I also normally get the baseball package, and when I saw that Direct gets a handful of those games in HD as well, it really became a no brainer. I usually spend $20 a Sunday in the Fall going out to watch the 20x17 = $340. I can now order the NFL at my house and not worry about smelling like smoke when I get home. I haven't been at home during the day on a Sunday during the Fall for 4 years.

Nearly a year into my switch and here are my thoughts:

The Good:

For sports, DIRECTV really is the best out there. I had the NFL, NBA, MLB & Mega March Madness all in HD. Cox only offers the NBA and MLB out of those 4 and not in HD.

I am a WWE fan as some of you know, I've been able to order WWE PPV's in HD. Granted it's a little bit more pricey, but that's only the price to watch in HD, it would be the same for Cox if they were to offer them in HD.

I'm not sure what channels I get with DIRECT that I would not get with Cox, I don't think it's many, all I know though is that there are a lot of channels.

NFL ticket is sweet, they are letting people pay $27. from Jan through October to get it for next year. Sounds like a burder, but it beats paying $54 over the course of 5 months.

One of my worries when I get DIRECT was NETHD, they added that a few months ago.

OTA adapter is pretty cool, it allows me to bring in OTA channels that DIRECT does not offer into my program guide and allows me to DVR them. They gave me that free ($50 value).

Channels and Channels in HD that Cox doesn't have or just recently got that I've had for a while: NBATV HD, Big 10HD, Mountain Network, CBS College, ESPN News (HD), MLB HD, NHL HD, Golf HD (not sure if Cox has that), Fox News HD, CNN HD (Not sure on Cox), and a few others.

Tons of On Demand Channels.

All the Royals games. The Fox Sports package for Pac-10 Late games. All the FSN's in HD.

The Bad:

I'm paying a bit more, I know that. I think that's because I constantly am paying a sports package off. I also have like 7 boxes because of my basement where I have a bunch of TV's. With Cox I was able to just split the wires and had no reason for the extra boxes.

No WGN HD, no ESPNU HD.

No HBO On Demand, no WWE On Demand.

No College Gameplan in HD, no Full Court in HD.

All in all, I'm glad I switch.
post #7302 of 9406
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/0207...85570916.shtml

if this is for all cox area and Omaha just hasn't released it it looks like 100 games. Hopefully they will be in HD.

According to the video project manager they are still negotating with the Royals.
post #7303 of 9406
Has any notice the channels 2-70 tiling up or going out lately?

like right now 48 and 65 are black
post #7304 of 9406
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

Has any notice the channels 2-70 tiling up or going out lately?

like right now 48 and 65 are black


I think you mean 20 and 61




broadcast channels 48 and 65 and 67 have been blank for years



still no word on when 61 K61GA moving to 19 aka K19HT-D


it is the only channel besides 54 aka TBN

that will be on analog after june 17 cause both are LPTV stations
post #7305 of 9406
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

I think you mean 20 and 61




broadcast channels 48 and 65 and 67 have been blank for years



still no word on when 61 K61GA moving to 19 aka K19HT-D


it is the only channel besides 54 aka TBN

that will be on analog after june 17 cause both are LPTV stations



No I was talking about TVland 65 48 Disney on cox they are back now maybe a frequency change to add more hd.
post #7306 of 9406
http://omaha.cox.net/cci/entertainme...e&id=D979C6N81

good timing for cox Omaha to launch fxhd
post #7307 of 9406
Heard back from a buddy of mine familiar with what is going on and he said that as of now Cox in Omaha is carrying 100 games, but negotiations are ongoing still.
post #7308 of 9406
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Originally Posted by nitty316 View Post

Heard back from a buddy of mine familiar with what is going on and he said that as of now Cox in Omaha is carrying 100 games, but negotiations are ongoing still.

did he happen to mention any in HD?

Hopefully the onscreen guide will reflect witch games we get this year correctly.
post #7309 of 9406
Hey, but at least you Cox schmucks got to see Nebraska-Wichita St. baseball. I had to drive there last night to see it. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

(Just kidding. I love that DirecTV carries all of the Royals broadcasts, including the max in HD. I remember in 2003, the first year of RSTN, I was on Dish and they didn't carry RSTN until the Royals started fading in July after racing to the division lead in the 1st half)
post #7310 of 9406
FSNKCHD will show 99 HD royals games and with Omaha having FSNHD hopefully we will get many of the 100 in hd.
post #7311 of 9406
I wonder if the csr spoke to soon or if the new hd channels just haven't shown up in the world herald yet?
post #7312 of 9406
Watching the first game of the Final Four and they had to switch to SD just for the weather. I'll be glad when they finally start using HD graphics full time.
post #7313 of 9406
KOLN & KGIN have had their weather graphics on since the start of the game and the picture has been HD the whole time.
post #7314 of 9406
Yeah...I'd hoped by now KMTV would have had HD graphics. Heard from a family member in the 10/11 viewing area and he had HD the entire game.
post #7315 of 9406
Well channel 7 does and they are using them right now while I'm watching This Week.
post #7316 of 9406
So did the April storm take KPTM off the air today ( Sunday) or is it more than just the ending of the 4PM news cast. First noticed about noon today that I was not getting a broadcast from them over the air. Checked the local via Dish Network and not there either. Also checked their sister station 15 and it is not seen either place too. Anyone have an idea what happened? Are they seen on COX? I am pretty sure that Dish is broadcasting a signal that the get OTA but not sure how COX gets the signal.
post #7317 of 9406
They are on right now. Got some nascar race going.
post #7318 of 9406
i do believe cox gets all the local channels over fiber from the stations themselves.
post #7319 of 9406
KPTM-DT (42-1/2) and KXVO-DT (15-1/2) are both still off the air. I noticed that analog 15 and 42 are still on the air.
post #7320 of 9406
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Originally Posted by HuskerMike View Post

KPTM-DT (42-1/2) and KXVO-DT (15-1/2) are both still off the air. I noticed that analog 15 and 42 are still on the air.

they are on cox including HD 10/11 710/711
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