Omaha / Lincoln, NE - HDTV - Page 285

You know, maybe this does all make since (for COX): if they add a couple of (free!) digital channels they can get more people to get (and pay for) a cable box so when they convert to all digital they don't have to give as many basic cable boxes to customers for free. These big companies really do have people/customers all figured out.

It's really not a bad strategy. In my opinion analog service needs to go away, the sooner the better, and gently nudging customers to digital service helps accomplish just that -- make there be fewer customers that end up needing free boxes at the cutoff point. Having no analog service to support ought to mean more available channels, and more bandwidth, which benefits all subscribers.

Something got my attention on another forum. The owners of silent KSNB, Channel 4, have applied to move their transmitter site to a point Southeast of York. While remaining, in theory, a "Superior, NE" station, the new site would put their signal into Lincoln as well (increasing their potential viewership sixfold), and, I believe (but am not sure) cause them to have cable coverage in Lincoln as well. I have no idea what programming they would carry.

Link to application on FCC website:
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws...&fac_num=21161

Yep - I came across that on the FCC database a few days ago. I'm thinking it's just an attempt to sell the station -- saying it can potentially reach Lincoln and Grand Island/Hastings makes it more attractive than just reaching the Superior area. Not sure who might be buying though. I could see it maybe becoming a CW affiliate depending on if it sells, who buys it, etc.

To be blunt, the actual over-the-air signal is really irrelevant these days since 89 percent of households in the Lincoln-Tri Cities market have cable or satellite. (http://www.tvb.org/planning_buying/184839/4729/72555) A full-power license guarantees cable and satellite carriage. However, KSNB has to build a new site anyway, since Pappas still owns the old tower, so why not build it in a spot that can (theoretically) reach the most people possible?

But of the 89% 35% have Dish or Directv which means they will never get KSNB over the sat and they must get it through their built in over the air tuner on the sat box.

The Sat companies typically do not have room on the sat to put CW stations up on the sat so OTA is the only option.

I only wished KSNB applied for MORE POWER so they could be picked up. It will be hard to impossible for anyone to get this station on VHF low.
VHF low does not go through walls very good unlike UHF.
Most will not be able to get this station. They should of also requested chaning to UHF and also more power like KPTM 42 which is picked up all over the place.

If the station claims must-carry, as I'm sure a CW affiliate on KSNB would, then it would be carried on satellite as well.

Subchannels are what the satellite companies typically do not carry.

- Trip

except cox isnt giving basic cable customers channels 75 and 78

Exactly, not without 'renting' a digital cable box so I wouldn't say it's 'exactly' 'giving' for nothing (are the regular digital cable boxes $4.95 or $5.95?), not unlike the 'free' HD channels.

Why are they listed on the tvguide channel if they are digital?

It doesn't list any other digital channels it's being cruel putting them on 19 and basic lineup only customers acant get them without having to pay extra

how do u know it's 89 percent? do you have a statistic to prove that or did u just assume it's 89 percent


btw, I know plenty of people who have only broadcast tv in lincoln or omaha.

with sub-channels on tv and our countries economy not being well, many are dropping cable for broadcast tv


sucks KOHA isnt on the air in omaha on channel 47.1

or k61ga hasnt moved to 25.1 yet. omaha needs more broadcast channels IMO

The numbers I have put it at 90%. http://www.tvb.org/admin.tvb.org/ifr...ion_by_DMA.asp

- Trip

I think cox should move nat. geo from 75 to 68

and put speed channel on 61 or 69

that way cox customers who have basic only service can be allowed to get them without having to pay extra

i mean 13 and 15 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69 are all blank channels.

It's called marketing.

That will not work they are still digital

it's called mocking those who only have basic cable.

You aren't going to get much sympathy on a message board entitled HDTV > Local HDTV Info and Reception > Omaha/Lincoln, NE - HDTV.

Cox pulled speed (and has pulled) other cable channels off of expanded basic cable and moved them to digital. Each time they pull a channel they get space for 3 to 4 more digital channels.

if that is true,

then pull golf channel and the public access channels and move them to digital.

they did that with now channel 109, plus no one watches 17 or 18 or 22 or 109 so they wouldnt be missed from main lineup.

btw:

when is cox cable adding daystar? I am asking since Daystar has no intention of ever using their KOHA 47.1 station in omaha

Cox is required to provide three analog public access/local government channels per their franchise agreement with the city.

Who knows channel 152 is blank call cox and request it

Do you know no one watches no one watches daystar

I mean do you know if no one watches or are you guessing? Daystar if added will be digital no more analog

daystar I predict will only get added when KOHA channel 47 vanishes as a broadcast channel. the whole situation of KOHA being still blank channel after 2 years is very fishy

especially considering some daystar programs actually list KOHA 47.1 as been on the air since at least October of last year.


http://www.jvim.com/tv/ustv.php?STATE=NEBRASKA

http://www.awmi.net/schedules/tv_usa

http://www.rejoicetv.org/StationList...StationListing

all say KOHA is on the air, but it isnt.


I even contacted all 3 shows and 2 never go back to me (neither did daystar) but the 3rd one said december 2010 to me in a email

Daystar was planning to air on KOHA soon (that is what they were told) and 7 months later, still nothing




I say sell KOHA to telemundo or bounce tv or some other broadcast channel and out something on there finally


Des Moines has way more broadcast channels and sub-channels than Omaha.


not everyone gets cable (know some who only get 3,6,7,15,26 and 42 and the sub-channels


and why isnt daystar on cox cable of Omaha? most cox systems across the usa have it on a digital lineup or something.

I am thinking cox is waiting for KOHA to be erased before adding it since Daystar has no plans to ever use KOHA channel 47.1 in Omaha

I thought it was 14 or was that a lie the far-left hosts on channel 109 made up

Has anybody checked out the lineup lately for Retro TV on KLKN Ch 8.2: http://www.myretrotv.com/prog_schedules/KLKN.pdf

Wow, the lineup is horrible. Cold Case Files? Infomercials from 2-8 am? The rest of the lineup is mainly hour long shows that really aren't that great.

Me-TV looks to be much better: http://www.metvnetwork.com/schedule.php A lot more mainstream programming & no infomercials.

me tv is coming after labor day to 7.2 in Omaha


Retro tv is going under. it has lost a lot of stations to meTV and antenna tv.

It hasnt been the success as Antenna TV and meTV have been.

wish antenna tv would air on channel 6.2 in Omaha. so sick of olympics all the time on there.


speaking of meTV, I wonder if davinci's inquest or heartland will still air on 7.2 after meTv takes over cause some stations for metv and antenna Tv

has some silight alterations to their lineups for local news repeats or syndicated shows.

14 was originally in the contract, but cox got changed.

Ketv should add 7.3 for weather now

I know 7.3 will eventually happen, but I would prefer Tuff Tv http://www.tufftv.com/ for 7.3.

lot better sports channel http://www.tufftv.com/index.php?opti...d=56&Itemid=53

than that stupid olympics channel on 6.2 (which i hope will be replaced with antenna tv)