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post #9031 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

how much is digital cable

asking cause the basic lineup now costs 70 dollars (or it does for customers like my mother)

and thinking upgrading to digital might be cheaper.

it would more than that what does she watch? $72.56 without taxes is expanded basic add $5 per dgtal pack best bet would would be call and see
post #9032 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

it would more than that what does she watch? $72.56 without taxes is expanded basic add $5 per dgtal pack best bet would would be call and see


thanks. with channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69 all blank, you would think cox would cut the basic customers some slack and stop jacking the price up.




now, if my mom gets just the Variety Pak (aka channels 240 to 276)

the Bonus Pak and the Faith/Values Pak and Music Choice comes all free with Variety Pak (or is stuff that seperate and costs more)
post #9033 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

thanks. with channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69 all blank, you would think cox would cut the basic customers some slack and stop jacking the price up.




now, if my mom gets just the Variety Pak (aka channels 240 to 276)

the Bonus Pak and the Faith/Values Pak and Music Choice comes all free with Variety Pak (or is stuff that seperate and costs more)

http://ww2.cox.com/residential/omaha/tv/pricing.cox
plus box rental
post #9034 of 9543
Anybody know which channels are part of TV Economy? This may be an option for your mother, depending on what's cut out.
post #9035 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

thanks. with channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 and 61 and 68 and 69 all blank, you would think cox would cut the basic customers some slack and stop jacking the price up.




now, if my mom gets just the Variety Pak (aka channels 240 to 276)

the Bonus Pak and the Faith/Values Pak and Music Choice comes all free with Variety Pak (or is stuff that seperate and costs more)

what channels does she want? cox tv starter mght be the way to go
post #9036 of 9543
Cox an others are planning to get rid of the old Analog channels that do not required a cable box. You can still get them all with a cable box.

I predict they will adjust all packages this summer and still leave a channels 2-20 package with locals and some very profitable shopping channels this summer.

By doing this they will free up space for about 100 new HD channels so they can be better than Dish and DirecTV
post #9037 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ScottChez View Post

Cox an others are planning to get rid of the old Analog channels that do not required a cable box. You can still get them all with a cable box.

I predict they will adjust all packages this summer and still leave a channels 2-20 package with locals and some very profitable shopping channels this summer.

By doing this they will free up space for about 100 new HD channels so they can be better than Dish and DirecTV

it would only go to 19 and only 2 shopping channels wthout a box
post #9038 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

it would only go to 19 and only 2 shopping channels wthout a box

actually u mean, 15 channels


channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 dont air anything
post #9039 of 9543
Cox Raises Rates, Eyes 10-Year Contract Renewal With City
Says it is okay to have channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 being blank


http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/C...147230305.html


I btw says move meTv from channel 123 to channel 13. cox cable needs to throw a bone to basic lineup customers
post #9040 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

actually u mean, 15 channels


channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 dont air anything

You can't look at it like that, there is a lot more RF riding on that coax than just TV channels, remember internet access (upstream and downstream), on demand channels, OOB signal, etc.
post #9041 of 9543
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Originally Posted by rmalbers View Post

You can't look at it like that, there is a lot more RF riding on that coax than just TV channels, remember internet access (upstream and downstream), on demand channels, OOB signal, etc.


blank channels are still blank channels.
post #9042 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post


blank channels are still blank channels.

Not when the bandwidth of them are used for digital,HD Internet and phone
post #9043 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

Cox Raises Rates, Eyes 10-Year Contract Renewal With City
Says it is okay to have channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 being blank


http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/C...147230305.html


I btw says move meTv from channel 123 to channel 13. cox cable needs to throw a bone to basic lineup customers

cox is not adding any more basic channels
post #9044 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

blank channels are still blank channels.

?

First, it doesn't matter if there are blank channels on a cable system or cable package you buy. Either you like the deal Cox offers and pay for it, or you don't like it and take your money elsewhere.

Second, as noted by others, digital cable systems have all sorts of things going on that may prevent use of specific channel locations. Those who use cable boxes don't have this problem because boxes can re-map channels to and from any locations the cableco desires.

Without a box there are some channel locations that correspond with system frequencies used for PPV, digital telephone, VOIP, and Internet, and other frequencies that are needed for use as a cushion so the services don't interfere with each other.

Without a box you're going to be out of luck before long anyway. Soon the FCC is ruling on a proposal to allow any cable system that is all digital to encrypt all channels. Because having all channels digital increases available system bandwidth, expect to see Cox transition to all digital cable systems in the very near future (About 1/4 of all Comcast systems are already all digital - no analog channels). Once they go all digital and once the FCC passes the proposal, expect to see them encrypt all channels. End of story.
post #9045 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

Cox Raises Rates, Eyes 10-Year Contract Renewal With City
Says it is okay to have channels 4 and 13 and 15 and 20 being blank


http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/C...147230305.html


I btw says move meTv from channel 123 to channel 13. cox cable needs to throw a bone to basic lineup customers

This channel is available without a box on a TV with a QAM tuner. It tunes to channel 108.3. I get it and I don't have a box.
post #9046 of 9543
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Originally Posted by BellevueTVWatchr View Post

This channel is available without a box on a TV with a QAM tuner. It tunes to channel 108.3. I get it and I don't have a box.

that's his point cox has it on the digital while he wants it as analog which will never happen cable is going all digital
post #9047 of 9543
I might switch to Cox if they go all Digital. They will then have room to add all the HD channels Dish and DirecTV has PLUS many many more.

They could even have room to add more HD on demand and Switch Digital video.

All Digital is a good thing. If everyone had to be on digital they would need more Digital boxes thus driving the price of boxes down due to volume purchases with the manufacturer.
post #9048 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ScottChez View Post

I might switch to Cox if they go all Digital. They will then have room to add all the HD channels Dish and DirecTV has PLUS many many more.

They could even have room to add more HD on demand and Switch Digital video.

All Digital is a good thing. If everyone had to be on digital they would need more Digital boxes thus driving the price of boxes down due to volume purchases with the manufacturer.

For me, they'd also have to add the referral bonuses and out of market games (or even in-market games) satellite offers. (And 5 mbps uploads on the Internet side...) On Dish for example, there are a bunch of sports alternate channels that have college baseball and basketball games from around the country. Dish, DirecTV, and even CenturyLink's analog TCONL/cable service in west Omaha have Altitude TV, which Cox doesn't. Altitude carries Nuggets and Avalanche games, the designated local NBA and NHL teams for the Omaha market. On Cox, the only NBA or NHL games carried are national broadcasts. There are no local/regional games. Also, thanks to referral bonuses, my Dish 200 channel package plus Blockbuster, DVR, and 2 HDTVs only comes to about $40/mo. There's no way Cox matches that. I subscribed to Cox service for a couple years but as soon as I lived in a location where Dish was an option, and where CenturyLink had decent Internet service (40/5), I bolted. So far, nothing Cox has offered has enticed me to come back.
post #9049 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ScottChez View Post

I might switch to Cox if they go all Digital. They will then have room to add all the HD channels Dish and DirecTV has PLUS many many more.

They could even have room to add more HD on demand and Switch Digital video.

All Digital is a good thing. If everyone had to be on digital they would need more Digital boxes thus driving the price of boxes down due to volume purchases with the manufacturer.

considering comcast is all digital in some areas and haven't reduced box fees I don't see Cox doing it either
post #9050 of 9543
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Originally Posted by JoelWNelson View Post

For me, they'd also have to add the referral bonuses and out of market games (or even in-market games) satellite offers. (And 5 mbps uploads on the Internet side...) On Dish for example, there are a bunch of sports alternate channels that have college baseball and basketball games from around the country. Dish, DirecTV, and even CenturyLink's analog TCONL/cable service in west Omaha have Altitude TV, which Cox doesn't. Altitude carries Nuggets and Avalanche games, the designated local NBA and NHL teams for the Omaha market. On Cox, the only NBA or NHL games carried are national broadcasts. There are no local/regional games. Also, thanks to referral bonuses, my Dish 200 channel package plus Blockbuster, DVR, and 2 HDTVs only comes to about $40/mo. There's no way Cox matches that. I subscribed to Cox service for a couple years but as soon as I lived in a location where Dish was an option, and where CenturyLink had decent Internet service (40/5), I bolted. So far, nothing Cox has offered has enticed me to come back.


they do offer out of market games via PPV they do have ultimate with 5mbps up

cable doesn't do out of market games except ESPN they also don't do referrals anymore
post #9051 of 9543
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Originally Posted by BellevueTVWatchr View Post

This channel is available without a box on a TV with a QAM tuner. It tunes to channel 108.3. I get it and I don't have a box.


I know. I recently got a new tv and can get it and this tv and LWN now.

too bad they dont have the Hub or daystar or though as QAM channels


could care less about BYU channel.


this is btw, QAM list for omaha:


83.12-Public Access 109 (which is lot of national programs on there)
85.3-BYU TV

100.11-SCOLA

105.1-KMTV CBS
105.2-KXVO CW
105.3-Azteca America
105.4-Live Well Network

107.1-KPTM Fox
107.2-NET1 Nebraska PBS
107.3-NET3 create
107.4-this TV
107.5-estrella TV

108.1-KETV ABC
108.2-WOWT NBC
108.3-Me-TV network
108.4-WOWT News/Weather

116.1-IPTV Iowa PBS
116.2-IPTV Learns
116.3-IPTV World
post #9052 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

I know. I recently got a new tv and can get it and this tv and LWN now.

too bad they dont have the Hub or daystar though, could care less about BYU channel.


this is btw, QAM list for omaha:


83.12-Public Access 109 (which is lot of national programs on there)
85.3-BYU TV

100.11-SCOLA

105.1-KMTV CBS
105.2-KXVO CW
105.3-Azteca America
105.4-Live Well Network

107.1-KPTM Fox
107.2-NET1 Nebraska PBS
107.3-NET3 create
107.4-this TV
107.5-estrella TV

108.1-KETV ABC
108.2-WOWT NBC
108.3-Me-TV network
108.4-WOWT News/Weather

116.1-IPTV Iowa PBS
116.2-IPTV Learns
116.3-IPTV World


they do have the HUB and Daystar probably encrypted though due to channel contract

have you looked between 85-3 and 100.11? Daystar is 156 via box will BYU is 150
post #9053 of 9543
btw, side note


what is cox channel 122 anyway?

it is a supposed public access channel, but all it has is COX Channel 122 on the screen
post #9054 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

they do have the HUB and Daystar probably encrypted though

that's too bad. they should give us that instead of BYU since Daystar is actually a broadcast channel on 48 (eventually to be 47.1)
post #9055 of 9543
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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

btw, side note


what is cox channel 122 anyway?

it is a supposed public access channel, but all it has is COX Channel 122 on the screen

122 is not public access it's something else 109 is the only digital public access channel
post #9056 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

122 is not public access it's something else 109 is the only digital public access channel

If I remember right, 122 was supposed to be a community bulletin board channel but no one bothers with those now since the Internet is so much more efficient (aside from, perhaps, groups that might put their messages on the CTI channel instead). However, the franchise agreement still was that Cox would make a public/community announcement channel available.

I remember a number of years ago cable channel 10 in Lincoln, at least in the Cablevision days -- I think Time Warner continued it -- was basically a bulletin board/notification channel; e.g. "The women of _____ church are hosting a fundraiser at 7 PM at ____." 122 was probably intended to be along those lines but that sort of channel is irrelevant today.
post #9057 of 9543
cox adds Disney Jr. to channel 261 on April 24th
post #9058 of 9543
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Originally Posted by JoelWNelson View Post

If I remember right, 122 was supposed to be a community bulletin board channel but no one bothers with those now since the Internet is so much more efficient (aside from, perhaps, groups that might put their messages on the CTI channel instead). However, the franchise agreement still was that Cox would make a public/community announcement channel available.

I remember a number of years ago cable channel 10 in Lincoln, at least in the Cablevision days -- I think Time Warner continued it -- was basically a bulletin board/notification channel; e.g. "The women of _____ church are hosting a fundraiser at 7 PM at ____." 122 was probably intended to be along those lines but that sort of channel is irrelevant today.

that's still on analog channel 22
post #9059 of 9543
Cox is still massively overpriced. I know that most of their customers bundle, but if I saw correctly, Cox's basic cable is now over $70 a month. I pay less than that after taxes for CenturyLink analog cable and 7 mb internet. Comparing my brother's cable/phone bill on Cox to my CenturyLink bill, I get faster internet and pay about $40 a month less than he does.
post #9060 of 9543
"Cox is still massively overpriced."
Dude, I think everyone here already knows that! LOL
I just hate monopolies’. Anytime that happens you are going to get, well, you know what! The worst part is that as soon as content companies get their act together so we can drop cable COX will have raised the price of 'internet only' to what we are now paying for tv and internet and they will make even more money (because then they won't have to pay content providers). We were talking in the bar last night that if we could subscribe to just the ESPN channels, we could get rid of cable. That's what I'm waiting for.
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