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post #9151 of 9543
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Originally Posted by JoelWNelson View Post

Dish has a technology in their new DVRs (which I have and it's really nice) where, for recorded network programming, it automatically plays back the show without commercials.  Networks have sued Dish claiming the automatic skipping of commercials violates their agreements and undermines compensation for the programming.

I don't think cox needs to add this because if you have access to the program on demand it has less ads the the original broadcast
post #9152 of 9543
10/11 is now broadcasting in Dolby Digital
post #9153 of 9543
===UPDATE on OTA===
Yesterday KOHA was on the old Analog. TOnight it is now on 48-1 in digital 480i not in HD

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Originally Posted by billiefan2000 View Post

NEBRASKA:


Meanwhile, the FCC has granted Daystar's plan to flash-cut KOHA-LP/48 (Omaha) from analog to digital on its current channel.


KOHA, which is off the air, had a construction permit for digital on channel 47, but it has expired. (10/13/2011)

http://northpine.com/broadcast/index.html



I cant wait for KOHA to finally be on the air btw.
post #9154 of 9543
It looks like on Cox Omaha DIYHD - 1206 is using a different vidio/audio format than most of the other channels, it plays on my MCE on the PC but will not play thru the MCE extender, I get some kind of message about 'not supported video/audio' on the extender. Does anyone know what the audio format on DIYHD is ?

EDIT: I think I might have found the answer, I'll bet it's an MPEG-4 stream, my extender doesn't support that.
Yes, the video/audio is H264 so that's the issue.
Here is how you can tell in Windows MCE:
To access Diagnostics press 411 ctrl - d, then < left, > right arrows to navigate.
On one of the screens it will show H264 instead of MPEG2.
Edited by rmalbers - 7/16/12 at 9:56am
post #9155 of 9543
For anyone in Grand Island, Gibbon, or St. Paul looking for Clear QAM channels, I was in GI over the weekend and hooked up my USB tuner to Charter in the hotel. Here are a few of the digital channels I identified that may be useful to those scanning via cable.

In most cases I don't have the actual QAM subchannel but the cable channel should be enough for scanning/locking in individual program streams. Not having a lot of time, I didn't make note of most of the non-local channels or the subchannels, but this could be a starting point. In my case I mainly cared about the local channels as OTA reception is awful in the Lincoln market due to VHF broadcasts and so I couldn't get them with a portable antenna. QAM 71-73 and 92 have the OTA channels.

15 - ?? (3 streams)
18 - ?? (2 streams)
21 - ?? (1 stream)
62 - ?? (2 streams)
67 - ?? (1 stream)
71 - KHAS-DT1
71 - KHAS-DT2
71 - KLKN-DT1
71 - KLKN-DT2
72 - KGIN-DT1
72 - ?? (3 other streams -- KHNE, I think, but didn't make note)
73 - KHGI-DT1
73 - KHGI-DT2 (KFXL)
78 - ?? (1 stream)
86 - ?? (9 streams)
88 - ?? (3 streams)
89 - ?? (1 stream)
91 - The Weather Channel + 1 other stream
92 - K56FC + Info channel 12 + CW100+ (no longer "KWBL") + KGINDT2 + 4 other streams
93 - ?? (1 stream)
100 - ?? (1 stream)
108 - ?? (1 stream)
post #9156 of 9543
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Originally Posted by JoelWNelson View Post

For anyone in Grand Island, Gibbon, or St. Paul looking for Clear QAM channels, I was in GI over the weekend and hooked up my USB tuner to Charter in the hotel. Here are a few of the digital channels I identified that may be useful to those scanning via cable.
In most cases I don't have the actual QAM subchannel but the cable channel should be enough for scanning/locking in individual program streams. Not having a lot of time, I didn't make note of most of the non-local channels or the subchannels, but this could be a starting point. In my case I mainly cared about the local channels as OTA reception is awful in the Lincoln market due to VHF broadcasts and so I couldn't get them with a portable antenna. QAM 71-73 and 92 have the OTA channels.
15 - ?? (3 streams)
18 - ?? (2 streams)
21 - ?? (1 stream)
62 - ?? (2 streams)
67 - ?? (1 stream)
71 - KHAS-DT1
71 - KHAS-DT2
71 - KLKN-DT1
71 - KLKN-DT2
72 - KGIN-DT1
72 - ?? (3 other streams -- KHNE, I think, but didn't make note)
73 - KHGI-DT1
73 - KHGI-DT2 (KFXL)
78 - ?? (1 stream)
86 - ?? (9 streams)
88 - ?? (3 streams)
89 - ?? (1 stream)
91 - The Weather Channel + 1 other stream
92 - K56FC + Info channel 12 + CW100+ (no longer "KWBL") + KGINDT2 + 4 other streams
93 - ?? (1 stream)
100 - ?? (1 stream)
108 - ?? (1 stream)

Were you able to make any observations on the picture quality of the HD signals? Any serious macroblocking, especially since it looks like Charter is running two HD signals plus two SD signals on at least two of those channels (71 and 72)?
post #9157 of 9543
10/11 looked great. KHGI and KFXL (both on 73) did have some macroblocking and the HD picture seemed soft, but then again that's been the case even with their OTA signals. Overall, seemed to be decent enough quality. The ironic thing is supposedly KHGI and KFXL had more bandwidth available with no SD subchannels on the same channel.
post #9158 of 9543
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Originally Posted by rmalbers View Post

It looks like on Cox Omaha DIYHD - 1206 is using a different vidio/audio format than most of the other channels, it plays on my MCE on the PC but will not play thru the MCE extender, I get some kind of message about 'not supported video/audio' on the extender. Does anyone know what the audio format on DIYHD is ?
EDIT: I think I might have found the answer, I'll bet it's an MPEG-4 stream, my extender doesn't support that.
Yes, the video/audio is H264 so that's the issue.
Here is how you can tell in Windows MCE:
To access Diagnostics press 411 ctrl - d, then < left, > right arrows to navigate.
On one of the screens it will show H264 instead of MPEG2.

If you're using a remote, you can also access the diagnostics by pressing 411, then the "info" key. I would guess that some of the Plus Pak channels are H264 streams; I checked 1302 (one of the HBO's) out of curiosity last night, but it was still MPEG2. Whenever I have some time to mess around and no kids / wife wanting to watch TV, I'll check out some of the other Plus Pak channels.

EDIT 7/23: Of the Plus Pak channels to which I subscribe, 1100 (Hub HD), 1206 (DIY HD) and 1230 (Outdoor Channel HD) were broadcast in H264. Interestingly, all of the HBO Plus Pak channels (1302, 1303, 1305, 1306, 1308, and 1311) were MPEG2.
Edited by jrfendrick - 7/23/12 at 2:04pm
post #9159 of 9543
I know you're all excited for this. Daystar upgraded to digital

Daystar station KOHA-LP/48 (Omaha) has converted from analog to digital, carrying the Christian network on channel 48.1. It's owned and operated by the network's parent, Word of God Fellowship. KOHA-LD uses 15kW, the maximum for UHF low-power TV stations.
post #9160 of 9543
Cox has added two HD channels for the Olympics. One is for soccer and the other for basketball. The soccer channel was active last night.

IIRC, the channel numbers are 1198 and 1199, but I could be wrong - if so, please correct me.

(Also - in my WMC channel guide, the Olympics show up as "XXX Summer Olympics." Insert your own jokes here. smile.gif )
post #9161 of 9543
Update

KFXL FOX Lincoln updated the FCC official records to report that they are going full power at 1,000 before they were at 14. Before we are not sure of they would go full power as it was optional.

They will reach well into Omaha. No eta yet on when the power up and change to channel 15 (remapped to 51).
Should be soon though, they have had many months and reports are that the Tower has a new shinny part at the top.

FCC Records
http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=KFXL-TV


Map from above record
http://maps.google.com/?q=http://transition.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/contourplot.kml?gmap=2%26appid=1485924%26call=KFXL-TV%26freq=0.0%26contour=41%26city=LINCOLN%26state=NE.kml
Edited by ScottChez - 7/28/12 at 8:26am
post #9162 of 9543
Anybody heard anything new about KSNB? I checked on the FCC site a few days ago and they have an extension to run at LP due to problems getting the antenna due to tuning issues? Anyone hear an estimated date for them to go online at full power?
post #9163 of 9543
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Originally Posted by Opusnbill7 View Post

Anybody heard anything new about KSNB? I checked on the FCC site a few days ago and they have an extension to run at LP due to problems getting the antenna due to tuning issues? Anyone hear an estimated date for them to go online at full power?

 

When they get a buyer.  The remains of Pappas Telecasting sure isn't going to be the one to do it.  A commenter on the Lincoln Journal-Star website today had some info on how even KHGI and KFXL are in a bit of a precarious position.  KSNB and KTVG aren't going to be back anytime soon unless they get new ownership.  I think the proposed move to the KTMX tower is simply to attract a buyer and not really an actual plan short of that.

post #9164 of 9543
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Originally Posted by JoelWNelson View Post

When they get a buyer.  The remains of Pappas Telecasting sure isn't going to be the one to do it.  A commenter on the Lincoln Journal-Star website today had some info on how even KHGI and KFXL are in a bit of a precarious position.  KSNB and KTVG aren't going to be back anytime soon unless they get new ownership.  I think the proposed move to the KTMX tower is simply to attract a buyer and not really an actual plan short of that.

Joel, do you have a link to those comments on the Journal Star article? Thanks!
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post #9166 of 9543
Well, KSNB isn't owned by Pappas. They're owned by Colins Broadcasting Corporation. In fact, they were rebroadcasting Pappa's signal previously from Pappa's tower in Superior, and when the agreement ran out Pappas locked them out. Hence why they haven't been on the air since then. Will have to check out the comments, though, in a bit once I can work around the pay-wall. :-P

Interesting comments about Pappas. Surprised his creditors have let things go on this long without liquidating all of his properties to other broadcast groups (such as Citadel Communications or someone like that).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KSNB-TV
Edited by Opusnbill7 - 8/7/12 at 2:54pm
post #9167 of 9543

Colins, however, is a Pappas subsidiary - or was linked, anyway. Colins Broadcasting and Hill Broadcasting (KTVG) existed to get around small market multiple ownership rules so KHGI, KWNB, KSNB and KTVG could all be operated out of the Pappas studio in Axtell.

post #9168 of 9543
Last week my Cox DVR box erased all of my save shows. Now, box keeps resetting itself. It's been doing it for a few days, but today it seems to have done it every hour or as often as every five minutes. Don't know if it's related or just a coincidence. I have the Motorola DCT3416. Anyone know of a recent software patch or something? Should I just go exchange my box? Tech won't be out until Monday.
post #9169 of 9543
The Pac-12 network launches tonight on Cox on channel 217.
post #9170 of 9543
Heads-up for Cox Omaha subscribers with CableCard equipment (TiVo, Ceton, HDHomeRun Prime, etc.) - Cox is now sending the CableCards the channel mapping to tune into the SD digital simulcast of analog 2-70. What this means is, you will no longer need an analog tuner to tune into channels 2 through 70 if you have a CableCard-equipped device.

Hopefully this is a step towards the elimination of the analog transmission on Cox's Omaha system. I know, some of you don't want that, but this is an HDTV forum, and HDTV via cable can't really reach its potential with almost half of the total bandwidth available being used to transmit the same number of channels that could fit on five channels broadcast digitally.
post #9171 of 9543
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Originally Posted by Mr.Nuke View Post

The Pac-12 network launches tonight on Cox on channel 217.

HD 1217
post #9172 of 9543
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Originally Posted by jrfendrick View Post

Heads-up for Cox Omaha subscribers with CableCard equipment (TiVo, Ceton, HDHomeRun Prime, etc.) - Cox is now sending the CableCards the channel mapping to tune into the SD digital simulcast of analog 2-70. What this means is, you will no longer need an analog tuner to tune into channels 2 through 70 if you have a CableCard-equipped device.
Hopefully this is a step towards the elimination of the analog transmission on Cox's Omaha system. I know, some of you don't want that, but this is an HDTV forum, and HDTV via cable can't really reach its potential with almost half of the total bandwidth available being used to transmit the same number of channels that could fit on five channels broadcast digitally.

How did you figure this out?
post #9173 of 9543
My tuner utilities include a link to view the channel lineup map used by the tuner. Channels 2 through 70 are now listed, where before the lineup started at 75.

As for PAC-12 HD - I have the WMC guide showing it at 1217, but it is not yet listed in the CableCard channel lineup...does anyone with a Cox box have it in HD on 1217?
post #9174 of 9543
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Originally Posted by jrfendrick View Post

My tuner utilities include a link to view the channel lineup map used by the tuner. Channels 2 through 70 are now listed, where before the lineup started at 75.
As for PAC-12 HD - I have the WMC guide showing it at 1217, but it is not yet listed in the CableCard channel lineup...does anyone with a Cox box have it in HD on 1217?

it's in the tivo guide as well, but not authorized
post #9175 of 9543
I'm adopting a "seeing is believing" attitude for 1217 then...I've had Investigation Discovery HD (1103) and Tennis Channel HD (1226) in my WMC guide (uses Tribune guide data, just like TiVo) since March or April, but still haven't seen the channels go live.
post #9176 of 9543
You know, next time I open my MCE pc up I'm going to remove my ATSC and NTSC tuners anyway, I never use them since I got the Ceton tuner. BTW: After checking these new HD channels out I found 1220 ESPN U, when did that come online? I guess I need to start looking closer at my channel guide LOL!
post #9177 of 9543
I've had ESPN U in HD for over a year, since before I built my HTPC and was using the Cox box.
post #9178 of 9543
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Originally Posted by ajwees41 View Post

HD 1217
It would work out if that ultimately ends up being the case, but at launch (and currently) I only show the sd channel.


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And as for ESPNU, I agree that we've had that for at least a year as well.
post #9179 of 9543
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrfendrick View Post

My tuner utilities include a link to view the channel lineup map used by the tuner. Channels 2 through 70 are now listed, where before the lineup started at 75.
As for PAC-12 HD - I have the WMC guide showing it at 1217, but it is not yet listed in the CableCard channel lineup...does anyone with a Cox box have it in HD on 1217?

I had to reboot my Tivo this morning because it wasn't showing me guide data or anything. I had to leave for work before it finished, but I did receive an email stating that they had loaded Pac-12 HD so perhaps that was the hang up? As I said I didn't get a chance to check and see if it was an "authorized" channel or not, but wondering if that is why I had to reboot.
post #9180 of 9543
It doesn't matter if it's showing up on a Tivo or WMC channel guide - we will never be able to tune in a channel until its channel mapping shows up on the CableCard. Without that mapping, our Tivos, Cetons, HDHR Primes, etc. won't know where to find the channel. I suspect that, if and when Pac-12 HD comes to Omaha, the Cox boxes will get the mapping at about the same time that the CableCards do.

And as I said earlier, I'm still waiting for Investigation Discovery HD and The Tennis Channel HD - they've shown up in the WMC guide data for several months now, but they aren't showing up in the CableCard mapping.
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