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Has anyone in the States received their Dolby HD expansion card yet?

Happy to report that the H555 Expansion Card was delivered today...
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Happy to report that the H555 Expansion Card was delivered today...

Great to hear - hopefully mine is not too far away.
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Nice! That means ours should be here soon!
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Which documentation are you referring to there? I've had a quick scan through the RS20i, can can't seem to find anything on this. I'm just starting to try and get my head around RS232 control and the two way feedback, so if there is some documentation somewhere giving commands etc, it'd be great if you could point me in the right direction.

Just to check you have the latest RS232 documentation which is dated March 12th 2013 and has many more commands relating to the new decoder board which I have implemented.
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Guys, I am considering to add RA7300 to my system. It seems I cannot find any images of the rear panel. How do you connect RA7300 to the speakers? In the brochure is mentioned only DB25 outputs? Can someone provide a photo of the rear panel of RA7300.
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Guys, I am considering to add RA7300 to my system. It seems I cannot find any images of the rear panel. How do you connect RA7300 to the speakers? In the brochure is mentioned only DB25 outputs? Can someone provide a photo of the rear panel of RA7300.

There is a video on Youtube from, IIRC, ISE 2013 that shows the rear panel which accepts DB25 plus XLR and RCA inputs. Search under Datasat.
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Roger, that is the back panel of the rs20i. Kamenoff is talking about the RA7300.
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How do you connect RA7300 to the speakers?
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Connectivity
Input: RCA unbalanced, XLR balanced, DB25 balanced
Output: 5-way binding posts, DB25 pass through
Source.
post #669 of 1456
Thank you Rodger..I wasn't sure what the 5 way binding post means but it is just the normal connection banana plugs... Thank you.
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I am researching information to control the RS20i through the serial interface and came across this Serial and Network Control TN-H413-01 application note.

Does anyone know if there is a more detailed document listing all RS232 commands? I assume there are many more RS232 commands available right?
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There is a change in the fan coming. UL approval is about done. So we are about to get a much quieter fan.

Also if you have not yet there is new firmware released about 10 days ago that fixes a problem that comes from DirecTV 2 channel. But you guys prob know that already smile.gif Its for the RS20i with the new processor board.

I did a review of the RS20i http://www.avsforum.com/t/1476924/datasat-rs20i
Edited by Chris_Stephens - 6/12/13 at 3:30am
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Great news about the fan Chris - do you know if it can be installed 'in the field'?
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I am researching information to control the RS20i through the serial interface and came across this Serial and Network Control TN-H413-01 application note.

Does anyone know if there is a more detailed document listing all RS232 commands? I assume there are many more RS232 commands available right?
The latest documentation with all the RS232 commands in is 12th March 2013 and can be obtained from Datasat.
If you have a problem PM and I can send you a copy.
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Im not sure what the plan is on the fan. I think its really difficult to swap tho frown.gif

So, I need some advice. Whats the best VNC app for the iPad ? There are so many... Ive been using Screens but I gotta resize the window each time and its not really good at doing touch screen remote control, its more about mouse movements. There are just so many, maybe you guys have found a good one ?
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Im not sure what the plan is on the fan. I think its really difficult to swap tho frown.gif

So, I need some advice. Whats the best VNC app for the iPad ? There are so many... Ive been using Screens but I gotta resize the window each time and its not really good at doing touch screen remote control, its more about mouse movements. There are just so many, maybe you guys have found a good one ?

Hi again Chris - I've tried both Remoter VNC and Mocha VNC Lite. I find the latter faster and easier to use, plus it allows you to lock the screen in position during use (though it does reset sadly once you close the app).
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Hello all, this is my first ever AVS post but I have been reading this thread for some time. I am building a new home and designing the theater from the ground up. I was hoping to be talked into the expense of the RS20i. I will be running an entirely Seaton Sound theater with catalyst 8C fronts and the redesigned spark surrounds in a 9.4 config w 4 HP submersives in a 21x15 acoustically treated room. Despite the setup issues outlined here would anyone suggest an alternative or will I be blown away as all the reviews suggest? All my speakers are self amplified so I really just need an awesome pre pro for audio as my video distribution will be done via Ethernet switching anyway. Thanks in advance!
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I wonder if it will be any good?
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Originally Posted by boomerdoc View Post

Hello all, this is my first ever AVS post but I have been reading this thread for some time. I am building a new home and designing the theater from the ground up. I was hoping to be talked into the expense of the RS20i. I will be running an entirely Seaton Sound theater with catalyst 8C fronts and the redesigned spark surrounds in a 9.4 config w 4 HP submersives in a 21x15 acoustically treated room. Despite the setup issues outlined here would anyone suggest an alternative or will I be blown away as all the reviews suggest? All my speakers are self amplified so I really just need an awesome pre pro for audio as my video distribution will be done via Ethernet switching anyway. Thanks in advance!
Being that the Catalysts are quite forward and very revealing speakers , in my experience they can really be enhance with the RS20i. I found that they were rather fatiguing to my ear, but with the RS20i in the chain this problem was much , much less. But, please take into account that I have especially sensitive ears, especially to compression drivers, so your experience with the catalysts my be different. Either way the RS20i will compliment the speakers IMO.

BTW, I would be going with at least 8 submersives in a room that size.
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Why in the world would you need 8 submersives in a room that is only 21x15? Headroom would be afforded with one submersive and two should even out room response pretty well (especially with EQ). Four would be enough to fulfill just about any SPL requirement one could ever wish form. 8 is overkill and a lot of money wasted that could go to other things that would be far more substantial to the overall enjoyment of the room.
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Why in the world would you need 8 submersives in a room that is only 21x15? Headroom would be afforded with one submersive and two should even out room response pretty well (especially with EQ). Four would be enough to fulfill just about any SPL requirement one could ever wish form. 8 is overkill and a lot of money wasted that could go to other things that would be far more substantial to the overall enjoyment of the room.

I suspect Dave assumed the measurements were in metres rather than feet (?).
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Dear god I hope so!!
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I wondered that myself but would defer to Dave in just about any situation, but I'm sure he did think it was in meters.

Thanks for your response, Dave. My installer and I are planning a trip to Chicago (I'm in Oklahoma) to hear the catalysts. I'll let you know if I have any fatigue.
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Originally Posted by Kris Deering View PostWhy in the world would you need 8 submersives in a room that is only 21x15? Headroom would be afforded with one submersive and two should even out room response pretty well (especially with EQ). Four would be enough to fulfill just about any SPL requirement one could ever wish form. 8 is overkill and a lot of money wasted that could go to other things that would be far more substantial to the overall enjoyment of the room.

21 meters would be approximatly 63 feet long by 45 feet wide that is huge!!

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I'll let you know if I have any fatigue.

I would be very, very surprised if you did !

Cheers,
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I don't expect to.
post #686 of 1456
Thread Starter 
Hey guys. I was assuming the room was in feet. But, the reason why I said what I said is b/c I have a room that is only a little bit bigger and after experiencing ULF that I have in my room (I am pretty much flat to 4hz @ reference, give or take any errors on the measuring equipment down that low) it is amazing. Of coarse if you only want to go down to 20hz, then 4 will probabaly be fine. But still, I like having the head room.

I guess I am just silly when it comes to bass.



This is with only 4 front subs and not pushed to its limits.

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Hey guys. I was assuming the room was in feet. But, the reason why I said what I said is b/c I have a room that is only a little bit bigger and after experiencing ULF that I have in my room (I am pretty much flat to 4hz @ reference, give or take any errors on the measuring equipment down that low) it is amazing. Of coarse if you only want to go down to 20hz, then 4 will probabaly be fine. But still, I like having the head room.

I guess I am just silly when it comes to bass.



This is with only 4 front subs and not pushed to its limits.


eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif That's what I love about audio/video forums, just when I think my own AV addiction has reached new heights, and I think I'm starting to go OTT, I can just drop on these forums and see that I've clearly not even scratched the surface! biggrin.gif Nice one Dave, that is taking bass reproduction to a another level! cool.gif

In a room of that size, those 8 subs must be barely breaking a sweat to reach reference combined SPL, but I bet all your room modes are pretty much kicked out of the park! And bass flat to 4Hz - you must have to nail everything down! eek.gif
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Very true, they don't have to work hard at all. biggrin.gif:D:D

As you probably read in my thread the whole room is solid concrete. I played FOTP where the plane barrel rolls and when you are in the room directly above the theater you can feel the concrete flex. But, the entire room has no sympathetic sounds from vibration , b/c as you suggested, everything is bolted down!eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif
post #689 of 1456
I am using the F2 submersives so there are actually 2 front firing woofers per enclosure...technically that makes 8 right?? Haha I would not expect to be flat to 4Hz though. I thought I was being ambitious on the low end but now I know who I'm dealing with. It's like going to a bar and comparing your alcohol intake to the regulars...
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Originally Posted by boomerdoc View Post

I am using the F2 submersives so there are actually 2 front firing woofers per enclosure...technically that makes 8 right?? Haha I would not expect to be flat to 4Hz though. I thought I was being ambitious on the low end but now I know who I'm dealing with. It's like going to a bar and comparing your alcohol intake to the regulars...

LOL!!!

I guess you could say you have 8. Will still have plenty of base for sure and I guess it does come down to diminishing returns.
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