SHARP Motion Enhancement/Film Mode stuck on?!!

Use Game mode, it disables all extra video processing and all you have to do is get over it's naming. I use Standard mode in my 60LE640U, work all right for me.

Game mode is not crippled in any way, you should have plenty of adjustments there to make you happy.

I'd leave your last statement to the experts but you really need to ask yourself if you understand and really need a "proper calibration". Proper calibration does not necessary result a picture that looks better to a regular viewer's eyes then something you can do yourself with Disney WOW or AVS disk and then customize it to your liking. There is much more depends on source quality.

I didn't want to insult you in anyway. This is more about getting best bang for the buck in your viewing experience. If you're mainly planning to watch cable/satellite programming then professional calibration becomes a moot point and you'll be much better off by trying settings posted here for your TV and playing with them till you like what you view. Worst part about professional calibration that you can't see before you buy. Many people like to see a picture that is bright and vivid and professionally calibrated TV may not provide that being calibrated to be close to the studio monitor settings.

Hi Shady195,

I posted in the 847 thread my current thoughts on your situation (and some months ago, the issue I dealt with and solved that I'll summarize here). (I agree with you that game mode is uncalibrateable).

I think you've got some processing mismatch/conflict going on. in my case FX on comcast was the channel that produced the worst jerkiness. occasionally I'd see in baseball games as the pitcher would be walking around the mound. I solved my issue by using a cable box that would allow fixing the output resolution (to 1080i, personal preference) and setting my switching AVR to "through" so that it did no processing. setting either the cable box or the AVR to output 1080p (eventhough the AVR has a much better upconversion chip than the display, go figure) would result in the jerkiness. 1080p on the display should have been a native scan rate so no processing should be required. But alas, it was annoying and very distracting.

If you're correct that film mode is stuck on, then the display is defective and should be replaced, but again the symptoms you're describing are not SOE, but some other video processing by the display...

Best,
jeff

Exact same issue occurs on my 640. Unfortunately, game mode is not a solution because that input is not available with the built in apps...Netflix, Vudu, Amazon and so on. I suspect this to be a rather universal issue with current Sharps but most folks simply don't notice it. It may end up being the reason I return my set if I can't resolve the issue.

could be, but I was able to resolve it on my 8470 - completely - and I was uber sensitive to it. In the past I described it as "judder", but it was not consistent and erratic.

If I couldn't have gotten rid of it, I'd have returned it... YMMV

I can get the apps on my Sharp to display in Game mode, but takes some trickery, like playing a disc through HDMI in Game Mode then starting an app- forget exactly how I did it, been without the apps for a month now anyways since the firmware screwed up and Sharp is taking their time fixing it.

What really annoys me is it only lets you set the picture settings one way for all inputs, and expects you to put one input on another 'mode' if you need that to be different.

shady, I'd start a ticket with sharp. no one else has an issue that sounds like what you've got, or at least similar, that could be defeated by some standard method.

Best,
jeff

I think this is a case where you're gonna have to run hdmi cables directly to the display. make sure ARC and aquos link control are off, on the display. (I'm assuming you've already got all video processing off like motion enhancement and film mode set to off. Also note that with ARC off, this will mean you need to run an optical cable from the display to the AVR to get streaming audio to play. to get DD/bitstream through the display, go to system options->terminal setting->audio setup->bitstream)

to make this easy, you should record to your dvr some content that shows the issue really bad. then you can just play it and observe.

if you contact sharp, this is probably what they'll have you do to start.

Shady, the 640U is not exactly your top of the line TV out there. So some of the issues you are describing are simply the shortcomings of the model, as it's by no means perfect. I have one too and have seen the same motion enhancement issue in all settings but the GAME mode. Accordingly I did some calibrating in the game mode, and was able to get a very good picture and have no complaints currently. Below are the settings I use on my 640U, which are the closest thing to the picture I get on my calibrated Panasonic VT50 plasma, which is the reference TV for all pro calibrators - practically the best picture money can buy today. I bought the Sharp 640U for gaming and any content that plasma might be sensitive to due to potential image retention (basically don't want to abuse the Panny which I use for BluRay and whenever I want the absolute top picture quality). So I used Calman calibration patterns and then checked the settings with various content too. I compared the color accuracy and all settings directly to the Panasonic VT50 as the reference. I must say, I was surprised how remarkably close to the VT50 I was able to get, to the point that the color accuracy was practically identical.

As I mentioned in the other 640U thread, of course these settings may look somewhat different from set to set like with any TV and may require minor tweaks to one's personal liking, but I believe they should be a good starting point if you want to try to utilize the GAME mode and have a great picture...Hope this helps you somewhat...

AV MODE: GAME
OPC: Off
Backlight: STD
Contrast: +30
Brightness: +2
Color: -2
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

--Advanced sub-menu

C.M.S. -Hue
R: -5
Y: -2
G: +4
C: -5
B: -10
M: +3

C.M.S. -Saturation
R: -12
Y: -2
G: -20
C: 0
B: -12
M: -11

C.M.S. -Value
R: -4
Y: 0
G: -2
C: 0
B: +3
M: +3

Color Temp: Low
R Gain (LO): 0
G Gain (LO): +3
B Gain (LO): -7
R Gain (HI): -5
G Gain (HI): 0
B Gain (HI): -6

Motion Enhancement: [grayed out]
Active Contrast: Off
Gamma Adjustment: +2
Black Level: [grayed out]
Film Mode: [grayed out]
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Monochrome: Off
Range of OPC: [any]

Ooops, for some reason I was under impression it was a 640U thread, lol. As mentioned, I noticed the same situation re. motion enhancement on my 640U, so I guess it's a common thing on Sharp sets... Anyway, hope you get all the issues resolved and good luck

Z-Mad

Thank you Z-Mad for the settings. Shady195, would you mind being more specific as to what exactly is a "hard reset and sim fiddling around"? I would be most grateful.

PS The manual states that Game mode and PC mode both circumvent Motion Enhancement and Film mode, at least on my model it does.

Guys, this is a great thread and helped me find the solution for this. I purchased the 70" last weekend (640U) and was also experiencing the stutter/judder, especially when watching sports, which of course is/was extremely annoying! I also knew, as some of you pointed out, after not noticing the issue when the TV was in game mode, that it had to have something due to the motion enhancement or film mode, since this is the only known mode the TV disables these settings. After running numerous tests/setups, I've found with 99% certainty (with the help of greeno's post above) that this stutter/judder only occurs when passing a source of 60 fps to the TV, so essentially 720p. My initial setup was for my DirecTV receiver to pass the native resolution to the TV, so when watching ESPN, which is 720p, I was always experiencing the issue. So, when I set the receiver to only pass 1080i to the TV, the stutter is completely gone! I verified this by recording a program that I saw the stutter in when passing native resolution, and then re-watching those same parts of the game with the DirecTV receiver passing 1080i. The reason I don't think it happens for everything being passed with a "progressive" resolution is because when watching a blu-ray passed as 1080p/24 (fps), there is no stutter/judder at all similar to what I was seeing with 720p/60, so I believe it is only sources passed with 60 fps. Obviously, I would love to know why I just can't pass 720p straight to the TV without the stutter, but always passing 1080i is an acceptable solution for this to me. Hopefully there will be a firmware update in the future that will fix this.

FYI, I'm in movie mode, with motion resolution set at 120Hz high and film mode off. Hope this helps y'all out!

I'm glad my info helped you. I verified I have my cable box set to output 1080i and my AVR (onkyo 696 passes it through unchanged). I didn't play with changing it to 720p and looking for issues. 1080i passed through is perfect, running TV in movie mode, calibrated using display3 and calman 4/5.

Best,
jeff

That sounds about right and why I ended up returning my TV. (60 inch 847u)

I run my HTPC in 1080p 60fps, watch Fox a lot (which broadcasts OTA at 720p and I don't use a converter box so I can't force a resolution) AND I played a lot of PS3 games at 720p... I would use Game mode for a lot of the games but RPG games and some other slower ones I wouldn't use Game mode because I wanted accurate gamma and colors.

Anyway... being forced to use Game mode for everything was pretty terrible...

Hopefully Sharp will fix this in a future update or next year as that is a glaring oversight on their behalf. (Not being able to turn off Film mode or SOE when feeding a 60fps source unless you use Game mode.)

I believe that feeding 1080i solve my and others issues. However, I never have issues when playing blu-ray. I've not checked by I assumed my player would send 1080p to the set. Is that also 60fps? (just notice sodaboy you're in concord. I'm in Livermore). How best to check?

I don't think sending 1080i is a solution at all. (ESPECIALLY if you're converting content like Sports which airs at 720p/60fps) More like a workaround. If content comes in at 720p or 1080p, you should be sending that to the set... The idea of creating interlaced content from a progressive source so that your progressive display can deinterlace it to be shown properly is just... well.. silly. A progressive display should get the progressive source without any conversions beforehand.

When you convert 60fps progressive material, like Sports, to interlaced, you're going to lose some of the data going from 60 frames per second to 60 fields per second.

Anyway, about your other question, I think it depends on your player and it's configuration.

Blu-Ray players usually have an option to output 24fps or 60fps (Do any players send 30fps as opposed to 60fps when 24fps isn't selected?)

Anyway, you could probably confirm in your player's menus somewhere...