I don’t care to ever see any data on this because I know it will never come forward. Just like offering an ANSI pattern or a method of shooting the ANSI pattern will never be done. Likewise if at some point the new paint is made by the more scientific minded and tested the results will be said to be wrong because the tester has an ax to grind. The sad part is MM new paint is most likely better as he claims than many previous screen paints and could be a really great thing and help many people with projectors that need such a screen, just as BD screens have a place. It will however never improve the native CR of a projector.
OK....let's call a few Spades as they really are..........
Bud....Your so certain, and so convinced of your points,and the fruitlessness of your posted missives, yet you post anyway. Must be solely just to aggravate a situation. In fact.... that is a certainty.
Your a Master at twisting others intent, as well as posting comments that are supposed to denigrate while sounding flowery. I don't go there....but I do sometimes go "off" when I feel a clearing of the air is needed
You once again make the silly misstatement about not being able to do any improving on the Native Contrast of the PJ...when you must know...HAVE to know that is NEVER stated. There is NO law of Physics that states it's patently impossible for a surface to deepen Black Levels while maintaining the original level of Whites...or in the least, deepening Blacks while attenuating Whites to a lower percentage that is otherwise considered normal. Can a Screen produce more light than it originally received? Of course not, and you know full well that has never been stated, yet it is a reoccurring argument / accusation of yours that's offered up whenever your at a loss to post anything really relevant.
Your last paragraph pretty much says where your head and feelings are, and they most certainly are not in a place where you are concerned about trying to help others realize the best possible results they can manage .......whereas that has always been my goal. You and others are primarily focused on trying to do everything possible to discount the potential inherent in advanced DIY Screen paints...you in particular always have.
And how nutzoid is the comment / expectation that "most" DIY'ers spend several Hundred dollars on equipment to test DIY Screen apps "after" they have to make them on a Dime to a Dollar budget? People that would / do make such an effort are 1 in a 1000 on this DIY Forum. And obviously, the vast majority of that tiny fraction do so ONLY because someone else convinced them of the need. This is not one of the Forums where High Rollers dwell.....it's a place where people look for affordable solutions that work extremely well. And almost none(99.99%) expect the advice offered to be collaborated by a White Paper and reams of Data. Whew.......My point being is that virtually NO DIY'er who first gets started with making a DIY Screen possess any type of testing gear. Most don't even posses a Projector yet!
Cuttard....did you ever possess a i1Pro "BEFORE" you ran into your other "Mentors". How about you smokarz? Be as honest as you can be....
Shoot me full of holes if you want, but every single thing I have ever accomplished was done without the need for ANY Test equipment, not a single day in School learning Color Theory, and was accomplished by intuition, supposition, common sense, and a deep awareness and understanding of just about every possible way(DIY) that has been tried to reflect a projected image back to a viewer. I KNOW what has worked, and what has not...and the best advanced DIY apps I advocate are based on applications others COULD NOT get to work. And yeah...I DO know how to take correctly composed Screen Shots, to a point they are accurate enough in their depiction of what is seen and can be duplicated by the average, "Test equipment challenged" DIY'er . You, or anyone else are not obligated to agree with anything posted, but to do what you do...what others try to do, to aggravate a situation, disrupt the effort to convey valid and reasonable choices...be they assumptive in their potential or Dead On the Money. By stating that everything done or pro-offered is flawed unless done "EXACTLY" the way you have had drummed into you heads by just a few others who do indeed have axes to grind, ulterior motives at hand, and who have everything to gain by overtly influencing people just like you by spewing nastiness and twisted facts. So as to in the least have them come back aboard this Forum and take up the banner they had to drop because they started being just as big of PITA's about their "opinions" and supposed "facts" and they didn't take heed of "play Nice" and wound up being booted...or left because they were forever on the verge thereof.
Then...of course it's just accepted by such people that I must take the blame for it all because I refused to let them / you have a free hand at being PITA's.
No...I never guided their /your / anyone's hand at the Keyboard.
No...I NEVER started up with the crappy attitudes or name calling / insults / snide veiled comments. Well...maybe not "never", but it's been years.
Yes...I lamented the loss of Forum decorum and hated seeing the all too common case where a few pliable members whose tendency toward being confrontational would fall prey to the negative mind think.
Yes...when pressed to a certain point, posts like this get composed.
Yes...sometimes because I get overwrought I too get "Wood Shed'ded" But at least I do so while defending a Forum I've come to appreciate, respect, and yeah...even love.
I know that chaps yours and others Heinies. It always has. The only thing "Science" has brought to DIY on this "DIY" Forum is the opportunity for people to bully other people. That is because from the start the wrong people used it for all the wrong reasons. Too expect it to be embraced without pause or question by anyone who wants to advocate a DIY application so as to "qualify" that app for consideration is just plain wrong.
smokarz, you have no "due respect" if you even imply the Moderation on "this area of the Forum" is a real shame. As you know full well, if you even implied that about a Moderator "elsewhere" you'd be immediately banned for Life. So where do you get off taking the leave to insult our Moderator? I'll tell you where. The same place you should get'cher arse back to, because frankly, what you stated is just a echo of what you read there, on a Forum ran by people with no comprehension of real decency toward others with a differing opinion.
Ok Gary...., if I gotta take a official wuppin' I'll take it. I'm pretty sure I didn't "insult" anyone, but I'm also pretty sure a few are not gonna be very happy.****Edited for Content...Formatted to fit your Screen****Edited by MississippiMan - 12/18/12 at 6:41pm