Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss
And I don't understand how the BDA licenses for full menus work. I believe you need the license with Java, but that full-menus can be used without a license if you don't use Java.
That is my understanding too, that you don't need a BDA license for basic BD menus. I believe the BDA license is required for the advanced BD features like BD Live. I do a fair bit of BD authoring with MultiAVCHD and I don't see the menus it creates as having to use java.
But I guess this is all kind of irrelevant for a media player. If a player advertises that it does BD menus, people will always expect it to do all features of the menus so the experience is like putting the disk in a BD player. That means it will be expected to support the advanced features which do require a BDA license. I think a player that supported limited BD menus would have limited appeal, especially if its price point were substantially above something like the WD Live.
Cinavia is still almost exclusively a Sony show, although WB has started releasing Cinavia titles (Project X, Wrath of The Titans, Rock of Ages, The Campaign
) and Disney has just released its first Cinavia title (Frankenweenie
). The other difference is whereas Sony is using Cinavia on just the BD titles, Warner Bros and Disney are putting Cinavia on both BD and DVD copies.
DVD Fab has just released their PC-based media player
that supposedly does full BD menus and does not have Cinavia. It doesn't have a BDA license either. It works on the basis of cracking the protection of any disk you feed it. If you only play BD.iso or BD file structures from storage the player is free.