2013 Formula 1 in HD - Page 12

Love that Ferrari video, thanks.

One thing wrong with the car - i will never own one!!!!

Oh yeah, and the name!!!

What a car though, wow!!

Good point. What is the name?

While waiting for the paramedics to arrive (due to suffering a heart attack after watching your video), I managed to find this:

That's what God invented the lottery for.

Very cool. I love the way he sort of christens it at the end by putting the badge on it. Kind of like "It is now worthy.". Schumacher developed the Enzo and now Alonso is developing the replacement. Makes sense.

I'm not too much of a Ferrari fan, but man, both those videos, way cool!

Forza Ferrari!

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/geneva/2013/1303_ferrari_laferrari_first_look/

Can't wait to see it compared to the McClaren P1. The Ferrari looks immensely better (they always do) and should outperform it as well.

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/geneva/2013/1303_2014_mclaren_p1/

I actually saw a McLaren MP4/12C the other day. Super bad! Nobody on the street knew what it was but me. It was parked and people on the sidewalk were stopping and cars were slowing down to look at it. The owner was eating at a restaurant and came out while I was taking pictures of it and he was impressed that I knew what it was. Turns out he owns an exotic car dealership. I asked him if it bothered him to spend that much money on a car that no one knows what it is (stupid question, looking back). He said "It doesnt bother me at all. I know what it is.". I waited for him to start it and pull away so that I could hear it. Very cool!

The P1 looks cool. That door looks very awkward though. Neat but awkward. I wonder if that will make it into production. Doesnt seem like you could park it next to another car it opens so wide. Stupid observation but I couldnt help but notice.

I saw a white one a few months ago. It looked MUCH better in person than the pics. However, I still like the 458 better.

Another cool vid:
LaFerrari - focus on vehicle dynamics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tesD4F-HOxs&list=PL72CDEE455CD2F28F&index=3
Edited by zeus33 - 3/6/13 at 2:57pm

And the 458.

+1

BTW, for those interested, you can drive the 458 around a roadcourse for $300 and the McLaren for $400, if you ever get to Vegas....
http://exoticsracing.com/

OK, you've convinced me (calling my dealer to place an order).

They wouldnt let you buy it. Seriously. Ferrari has a very strict policy for who buys their flagship cars like that. You almost certainly would have to be someone who has bought a Ferrari in the past. You have to fill out an application to get on the waiting list and hope they choose you. Its not like they have trouble selling them and they make very few of them. They want to make sure that it is going to someone who will be able to appreciate the car and will drive it from time to time. If youbare approved then you go to the factory and they showmyou around the factory. Then they show you the car and explain how to use everything. Then they take you out on to the track that they have at the factory that they use for testing and let you get a feel for it. Then if they are convinced that you are not going to wrap it around a telephone pole when you get it home they let you take delivery.
It is a serious business. You are buying a street legal race car. And Ferrari has an image to protect. They put you through all this for many reasons. Not the least of which is they want their cars to be driven and appreciated. Like the work of art that they are. If they didnt do this then many rich goofballs would buy them and either wreck them or just buy them to sell right away to make a profit.

Unfortunately, this happens with many that are resold on the used market. It amazes me how many idiots total Ferraris and other exotics within a week of buying them. Or like this clown, within the hour!
http://jalopnik.com/netherlands-dj-afrojack-learns-why-you-dont-drive-a-450543966

With all of the electric "helpers" on a 458, you have to do one of 2 things to crash it. Turn everything off thinking you are Alonso (good luck with that) or have no driving skill/common sense whatsoever.

I forgot to mention that they will also make a custom seat for it just for you. Just like a race car.

My favorite dumb way to kill yourself in a fast car happened in my home town. Guy was pulling out of a driveway to cross a 4 lane road and go left. driving a 427 Cobra (original.) He hit it to clear a truck coming from his left. But he had the front wheels turned and the car snapped sideways right in front of the truck he was trying to beat. Oops.

No one this side of a pro racer has the skill to handle the power these cars have, no matter how many nannies they include. That power gets you from a standstill a lot farther down the road in the first few seconds than you anticipated (like when I watched a guy almost run into a parked car across the street because he didn't anticipate what happens when you punch a 12 cylinder with the wheels turned (coming from a curb, showing off for his gf.)

That same power gets you to triple digit speeds very quickly, and the cars seem comfortable there. But time and space compress at those speeds and you have to be used to it to be able to think ahead, live in the future as it were. So it's not really bad driving, just "normal" driving in an abnormal car.

At least the people wrecking them are driving them

Please don't tell me your hometown is Stayton, Oregon and a teenage boy was in the passenger seat....

Actually, no.
Next time you are in Vegas, check out Exotics Racing at the Speedway.
Their website has been posted above.

A Camry can kill you too....if you are idiot (which obviously this guy was).
The reality is you should always respect the power of ANY automobile.

A person should always do this when driving ANY car.

I always tell people when they asked me about being afraid when I drive one of my cars that a "fast car" will only go "fast" when the driver tells it to.

No, but west coast (central CA.)

You're basically making the argument that a reasonable person would make who has some experience with fast cars So you don't count

The number that counts is power (really torque) to weight. At a certain point, let's say below 10:1, things change, so Camrys don't really count to me.

Track days are fun for many, and if I was in the area I'd probably rent an exotic just to have the chance to drive it. If you have enough track time in a decent car, you have some of the experience of a pro, so at least in terms of the car you're somewhere up the learning curve. Driving in anger is a whole other deal though, and that only happens in competition, which is where the real learning happens. Track days are better than nothing though, so you have a point.

Even if I had the money, I wouldn't have an exotic (which I'm defining by absurd power/weight ratios.) Actually, I realized some time ago that they don't build a car for me anymore. The ones I like - small and medium size German sedans from the factory sport works, aren't remotely practical because of their small gas tanks and limited range. That probably doesn't makes sense if you don't know that I've driven extensively over the western states. For many years it was probably my favorite activity - load up and go for a week or so. When you're sweating finding gas after just 200 miles, you're pretty limited in what you can do. I guess I'd have to settle for some damn Porsche ...

I asked because we had the very same thing happen up here.
The difference was the kid was also killed.
Dumba$$ killed himself and an innocent kid...probably showing off to the boy.

Although I do drive fast, I am in no way, shape or form a racecar driver.
I know where my limits and the limits of my cars are.
With the exception of my V....its limits exceed my courage. :-)

The Golden Rule is if the car to starts to "break loose," LIFT, keep the nose of the car in the direction you want to go and don't panic.
Many wrecks in exotics happen when a driver panics and over-corrects.

Like I said, check out the place in Vegas....very professionally run and you can do laps on a real roadcourse.

Almost every roadcourse or speedway has private companies using the tracks during off days and holding Driver Schools taught by racecar drivers (usually retired).
There are at least 2 near you that do: Laguna Seca and Sonoma.

Factory "sport works" don't get great mileage and for the most part, they can't.
Some may do it better than others, but the bottom line is it takes fuel to generate power...there is no way around it.

Maybe the best example of getting good highway mileage is a newer Vette.
Highway MPG is around 25.
It's done by using the highest gear in a manual and cruising at 55 or 60.
The engine will be turning over at less than 2,000 RPM. ;-)

Hey, what about an M3 or M5?
IIRC, the Audi S cars get decent MPG.

Don't do that....it's the car for posers. :-)

Don't do that....it's the car for posers. :-)[/quote]

Not true. I drive my Boxster S as often as I can. I have a few years of wheel to wheel road course race experience and still participate in autocross, driving experiences and track days when I can. My Porsche is a driver's car, not for standing around at car shows.

;)

When I wrote that last night there was something wrong with the forum and the emoticons were off-line and I didn't know who to make a LOL thingy.
What I meant to say is Porsches are a must for every every lawyer, doctor, and dentist and therefore, are pretty common.

You have a point.

Coincidences are sometimes creepy...this video was posted this morning and I just saw it.
AND it perfectly illustrates my point:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9fa_1362664058

You have sinned by putting Corvette and BMW in the same sentence as Ferrari.
Whoops. I just did it too.

Point taken.

True, they did.
But it was pretty competitive, which is always a good thing for fans.

That is true too.
However, they didn't have a lot of competition (except for AM).
Also, the complete might of GM is behind Corvette Racing, while Ferrari concentrates their efforts on F1.
So, there is that too.

I think it's great how Vette owners come out and show their support for the brand.
I'm sure GM takes special note of their enthusiasm.