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post #61 of 1821
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Those Italians are sneaky.smile.gif
post #62 of 1821
Smart like a fox.smile.gif I am Italian. Go Scuderia Ferrari!
post #63 of 1821
From Speed Channel:


Luca di Montezemolo was in good form at this week’s meeting with the media in Italy, and, along with discussing his team’s season, the Ferrari boss aired his views on the bigger picture.

As in the past, he stressed the need for F1 to be a platform for developing road-car technology. He also made it clear that he had little time for smaller teams that have budget problems – and suggested once again that it would be a better option to for bigger teams to sell them cars.

His views confirm that there is still much uncertainty behind the scenes about the future direction of the sport.

“During the year, there were some things I did not like,” he said. “I saw cars that did not comply with the regulations, but instead of being disqualified, their teams were told to fix it for the next race.

“Above all, I note with regret that it is no longer possible to have a technology transfer from the track to the road, because in too many areas, development is frozen, and because aerodynamics is too important, so that the cars are more and more like spacecraft and less like cars.

“All this is born of a desire to go for the lowest common denominator, something that needs to stop, and is the result of decisions made four years ago, at the time of (FIA president Max) Mosley, when there was an urgent necessity to reduce costs. With 2014, however, we need to start a new phase – we will see which means of governance Formula One will adopt, but we will put forward our ideas very forcefully.

“For our part, a choice which I wanted to emphasize to give the greatest possible emphasis with the Board of Directors, is that we will do all in our power to push for a strong change, to bring Formula One back to its role as a real test bed for road-car research.

“We will no longer accept this principal of absolute democracy. The gap between the small teams and the big ones is still very big, but you can’t always do everything at the lowest level; if they don’t have the resources or the structure, then they should compete in a lower series.

“On this subject, I will put back on the table the idea of selling a third car to the smaller teams, a solution that would allow them to have a competitive car at relatively low cost, which would allow them to attract more sponsors.”

Montezemolo has long made his opposition to testing restrictions clear, a stance that is no surprise given that Ferrari has access to both Fiorano and Mugello, but can’t utilize them.

“As for testing, it’s getting close to ridiculous,” he said. “The FIA is not opposed to it, we are not, and so what is the reason for it? There are teams who have put a lot of funding into simulators as have we, while at the same time, we have invested heavily at Mugello, which is now one of the nicest circuits in the world.

“In the next few days, we will meet (Bernie) Ecclestone and (Jean) Todt, and we will put all these perplexing points on the table. I would remind everyone that test sessions are not just for developing the cars, but are also an opportunity for sponsors and for young drivers. What possible media or commercial interest can there be in testing in a simulator?”
post #64 of 1821
Very interesting. I like pretty much everything he said. There should be more testing. If you can't afford it and can't be competitive then move on. The trickle down from F1 to road cars is nearly non existent. The cars from the 90s were better than the ones now imo. As long as you dont take away driver control. Too many driver aids is not the answer.
post #65 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Very interesting. I like pretty much everything he said. There should be more testing. If you can't afford it and can't be competitive then move on. The trickle down from F1 to road cars is nearly non existent. Too many driver aids is not the answer.
Agreed.

Backmarkers in F1 doesn't cut it.
OTOH, other than buying an already established team, how do new teams get into F1?

Customer cars could be a good thing.
OTOH, all that would be necessary to run at the top is $$$.

The transfer of car tech from F1 to the road is critical to the survival to the sport.
Otherwise, the motivation for manufacturers to fund their teams is diminished.
OTOH, road cars have strict regulations for safety and have higher and higher fuel economy requirements.

As for testing, a mixed bag.....
Without testing, costs are probably higher for the teams.
OTOH, the lack of testing adds a degree of uncertainty to the cars' performance and longevity and that translates into more exciting Sundays.

IMO, there are no easy answers to a lot of these things.
But one thing is sure: Bernie can only last so long.
post #66 of 1821
From my point of view, NBC SC did a poor job with the 2012 CART, IRL, IndyCar (what ever) races and a poorer job with the qualifying. It seemed like for much of the technical staff it was their first rodeo.
post #67 of 1821
How much did you watch? Just curious since you dont know what its called.wink.gif
Edited by Bond 007 - 12/25/12 at 2:23pm
post #68 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

How much did you watch? Just curious since you dont know what its called.wink.gif
I watched it when it (or part of it) had each of those names.
post #69 of 1821
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Luckily, the on-screen graphics are handled by FOM for F1, so NBC shouldn't be able to mess it up too much.
Unless F1 forces them to use their graphics, I've found that NBCSN Americanizes (dumbs down) graphics when they rebroadcast European sports. They usually remove the concise graphics that are provided from the original feed and add stupid crap like crawls on the bottom of the screen that add nothing and waste space. Their Tour De France coverage is notorious for this but I've also seen it on some of their other programming. We're gong to have to wait to see if they pull any stunts with F1, but I've hated NBCSN for so long I'm dreading to see what they will screw up. And they will screw something up.
In the time of global information network one does not have to be confined to national broadcasters.
post #70 of 1821
I will wait and see what they end up doing about graphics or anything else at this time. First there was the complaining regarding who would be the broadcast team for the races. The answer was given and most seem happy? Why don't we just wait and see what they actually do, they aren't stupid due to the fact that they were already aware of how well the Speed team worked together so they hired them.To me that shows they were paying attention to what was happening while the broadcasts were still on Speed! I'm hoping they are still paying attention and not "change" graphics on an international sport with extremely exacting information in real time? I am more worried they will plant the giant NBC bug on my screen than anything else right now.
post #71 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Sharp1080 View Post

I am more worried they will plant the giant NBC bug on my screen than anything else right now.
I have zero doubt that they will add the NBC logo to the screen.
post #72 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Ungermann View Post

In the time of global information network one does not have to be confined to national broadcasters.




That's how I know NBC was screwing up the original graphics on their rebroadcasts. The internet is your friend! wink.gif
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post #74 of 1821
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

I have zero doubt that they will add the NBC logo to the screen.

I'm ok with that, as long as we don't see any of the following vomitus elements...

NBC NFL Robot
NBC NASCAR Gopher Cam
John Williams NBC sports intro theme

Keep the US coverage feeling international, please don't add "rock music" to the intros, or have the announcers sit with headsets on wearing suits discussing how drivers feel, or strategies, etc.

Just my thoughts. smile.gif

-JR
post #75 of 1821
I just can't wait until they give the up close and personal stories with that very special background music. We'll find out all about how the drivers have supported the local lost dog crisis center and how they love the local farmer's market for that special white asparagus.
post #76 of 1821
Any thoughts on the 2013 regulation changes?
post #77 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Any thoughts on the 2013 regulation changes?
Nothing earth shattering. In fact, barely worth reporting.

It will be more interesting to see if Alonso can stop Vettel's charge to utter dominance.
post #78 of 1821
Most interesting thing I noticed was that they can't use DRS outside the zones in practice or qualifying anymore. That will definitely shake things up. No double drs means Lotus will have to scrap the system they were developing at the end of the year. Also there should be no more "step nose" ugly cars because of the "vanity" panel. I think all of that is more important than NBC bashing imo.
post #79 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Most interesting thing I noticed was that they can't use DRS outside the zones in practice or qualifying anymore. That will definitely shake things up. No double drs means Lotus will have to scrap the system they were developing at the end of the year. Also there should be no more "step nose" ugly cars because of the "vanity" panel. I think all of that is more important than NBC bashing imo.

Not so fast.... Lotus' new system was a passive system that activated at a certain speed and was not activated with the button press.

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/sporting_regulations/12877/
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Active double-DRS systems outlawed
In 2012 Mercedes developed a clever concept whereby air was channelled through an opening in the rear-wing endplate when DRS was activated and then fed through the car to help stall the front wing. For 2013 active drag reducing systems involving the DRS, such as this, have been banned.
post #80 of 1821
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Originally Posted by oryan_dunn View Post

Not so fast.... Lotus' new system was a passive system that activated at a certain speed and was not activated with the button press.
http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/sporting_regulations/12877/
Good observation. Seems like I do remember some talk during the season about how they may be able to use it in 2013 depending on how the regs are stated. I hope you're right. I would like to see them do well. By "well" I mean right behind Ferrari.smile.gif
post #81 of 1821
Something else I'm glad to see is that Red Bull won't be able to get away with that damn flexing front wing that they used last year.
post #82 of 1821
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

It will be more interesting to see if Alonso can stop Vettel's charge to utter dominance.
Depends on Ferrari's car.

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Something else I'm glad to see is that Red Bull won't be able to get away with that damn flexing front wing that they used last year.
RB has had their front wing scrutinized till the cows come home and it always passes.
The reality is Newey is a very clever fellow.wink.gif
post #83 of 1821
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Depends on Ferrari's car.
RB has had their front wing scrutinized till the cows come home and it always passes.
The reality is Newey is a very clever fellow.wink.gif
+1 to both. It was killing me to see that wing bouncing like a rubber ball and knowing they were getting time out of it. Of course, if it had been Ferrari that would have been OK. tongue.gif
post #84 of 1821
Looks like the deal for the German Grand Prix to be at the Nuerbergring circuit is all but done. I love that track. Much better than Hockenheim.
post #85 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

Looks like the deal for the German Grand Prix to be at the Nuerbergring circuit is all but done. I love that track. Much better than Hockenheim.
Where the hell is my NJ GP at the moment?
I was all set to go to NY this spring.frown.gif
post #86 of 1821
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Where the hell is my NJ GP at the moment?
I was all set to go to NY this spring.frown.gif

Snooky GP was pushed back to 2014 a long time ago.
post #87 of 1821
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Originally Posted by RaceTripper View Post

Snooky GP...

biggrin.gif NJ has to be proud.
post #88 of 1821
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Snooky GP was pushed back to 2014 a long time ago.
I am very disappointed that the NJGP has been delayed but that's actually funny. biggrin.gif
post #89 of 1821
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

+1 to both. It was killing me to see that wing bouncing like a rubber ball and knowing they were getting time out of it. Of course, if it had been Ferrari that would have been OK. tongue.gif

I agree with you on this. smile.gif

I do hope there are more competitive cars this year, vs. Red Bull clearly having the strongest car. Would love to see Ferrari and McLaren back at top form again. Here's to hoping the back markers are able to get even closer to the top tier teams, I always found it crazy that there are cars in the same field that are outside the 107% rule from time to time.

-JR
post #90 of 1821
The whole backmarker question is a Gordian knot.

It's a shame VW hasn't taken a shot at F1.
Or a pure Japanese coalition of Honda/Toyota?
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