Originally Posted by stevew24963
Time to move on with the team orders ordeal.Lets look forward to China and hope Pirelli has sorted their tire issues,Force India have fixed wheel nut issues,and Seb and Mark can coexist in the same pit box without a wall between them.Though the RB situation could have a serious impact on both Constructors title and Drivers title if friction continues.Watch and wait.
I agree that there is a lot of interesting stuff to discuss about F1 other than the Red Bull controversy but with the China race still being two week away, it seems to me that the Red Bull brouhaha still has legs.
Originally Posted by slowbiscuit
Doesn't change the problem, which is that the drivers should race as they see fit and not by what their team politics dictate. The only 'order' should be that they not wreck a team mate, but that's a given more than an order.
This is a much bigger problem in F1 than the other series, IMO, and it directly impacts the quality of the racing.
Originally Posted by Bond 007
I agree that it sucks for the fans. I dont think anyone would argue that. But the team orders are not politically driven. They are budget driven. Usually anyway, unless its near the end of the season. And F1 is a business. So, while I dont like it, I do understand it. Vettels mistake was that he didnt like it and he understood it also. But he said "screw you" to the team. You can make all the excuses for him you want. But thats a no no.
You guys have stated the two sides of the issue. Team orders for a driver not to pass a teammate, even if it's for the lead, do a huge disservice to fans and make races, which are too often static and boring anyway, even more static and boring. I hear what Bond 007 is saying, but would argue that purely budget driven team decisions, which take excitement out of the races, are wrong. That's why I have a hard time taking seriously the anguished vapors about Vettel having violated team orders.