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post #31 of 76
Today i have recived my 3d Glasses to make sure its there when i get the projector for testing it.
This is the one i bought. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180940932373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648

On the advert it sais that they are 144Hz and that is the reason that i bought it in first place.
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My SainSonic Glasses had 100/120Hz, the 144Hz were out of stock. So i could only test gaming and tv.
The new MW519 owner ordered the 144Hz version, this glasses are working perfekt, even with bluray. He is very happy with the Benq.

Now i am looking at the box (the box is diffrent then in the advert) and the manual and it all says 120Hz eek.gif
will this thing work with mw519. or is it 144Hz and the gave me a wron box and manual with it? any one knows these glasses?
Edited by tinzo - 1/29/13 at 7:31am
post #32 of 76
its the same post sorry.
post #33 of 76
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Originally Posted by tinzo View Post

Now i am looking at the box (the box is diffrent then in the advert) and the manual and it all says 120Hz eek.gif
will this thing work with mw519. or is it 144Hz and the gave me a wron box and manual with it? any one knows these glasses?

The MW519 does not require 144Hz, it's only if you plan to upgrade to its bigger brother the W1070 that you will be able to take advantage of the 144Hz. I suspect that you will be ok.

EDIT : A poster further down indicates thar 144hz is required for blu-ray. Sorry for the bad info. Guess you can`t even trust the stuff you write on the internet ;-)
Edited by krusemarks - 2/1/13 at 2:45pm
post #34 of 76
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are you still going to make that?smile.gif

Sure just for you as my last act before I pack it up to return it because of the locking remote issue. Hopefully they will patch it in a firmware update. I passed the info along to the BenQ support team, and they indicated that they would try to recreate my issue; but my limited return window is expiring.

It took about 9 minutes to step through the majority of the menu options so have fun watching the video. Sorry for the tilted shot, I was setting it up in the dark, but I think the menus options should be legible as I step through them.

http://youtu.be/XofijEzrXco

Or search youtube for "BenQ MW519 projector menu navigation" if the link does not work.
post #35 of 76
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Sure just for you as my last act before I pack it up to return it because of the locking remote issue. Hopefully they will patch it in a firmware update. I passed the info along to the BenQ support team, and they indicated that they would try to recreate my issue; but my limited return window is expiring.

It took about 9 minutes to step through the majority of the menu options so have fun watching the video. Sorry for the tilted shot, I was setting it up in the dark, but I think the menus options should be legible as I step through them.

http://youtu.be/XofijEzrXco

Or search youtube for "BenQ MW519 projector menu navigation" if the link does not work.
wow thanks for the video mate. i am going to watch it right now,
as the glasses goes the ebay seller write me back and he said the glasses are 144Hz but they are packed in the older 120Hz boxes. you can read in last page that 144Hz sainsonics don't show any problems with the mw519. it's going to be ok i think. thanks again for the video.
Edited by tinzo - 1/31/13 at 1:42am
post #36 of 76
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Originally Posted by krusemarks View Post



The MW519 does not require 144Hz, it's only if you plan to upgrade to its bigger brother the W1070 that you will be able to take advantage of the 144Hz. I suspect that you will be ok.

But i was not able to sync my 100/120Hz glasses with bluray movies, only with 144Hz glasses it works.
post #37 of 76
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Originally Posted by tinzo View Post

Today i have recived my 3d Glasses to make sure its there when i get the projector for testing it.

On the advert it sais that they are 144Hz and that is the reason that i bought it in first place.
Now i am looking at the box (the box is diffrent then in the advert) and the manual and it all says 120Hz eek.gif
will this thing work with mw519. or is it 144Hz and the gave me a wron box and manual with it? any one knows these glasses?

Don't worry, I got the same model from Ebay claiming they were 144hz and my instructions only said 120hz as well...... but they do work at 144hz
post #38 of 76
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Originally Posted by krusemarks View Post


The MW519 does not require 144Hz, it's only if you plan to upgrade to its bigger brother the W1070 that you will be able to take advantage of the 144Hz. I suspect that you will be ok.
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Originally Posted by tinzo View Post

Today i have recived my 3d Glasses to make sure its there when i get the projector for testing it.
This is the one i bought. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180940932373?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2648

On the advert it sais that they are 144Hz and that is the reason that i bought it in first place.
Now i am looking at the box (the box is diffrent then in the advert) and the manual and it all says 120Hz eek.gif
will this thing work with mw519. or is it 144Hz and the gave me a wron box and manual with it? any one knows these glasses?

That would be false. The 519 only works with 120hz dlp-link glasses for 720/60P (usually video games). 3D Blu-rays are played at 1080/24P and require 144Hz in order to work. The 519 automatically detects and selects the resolution and flash rate and you can't change what it selects.

Simply press the info button on the remote and you will see what it selected and if it says 1080/24P and your glasses are working, your glasses support 144hz. If you have PS3, you can go into setting and change the setting to play in only 720P and/or turn off 24P, but then the projector won't recognize the Blu-ray is 3D and won't play it in 3D. However, the info screen on the projector will show 720/60P and the glasses will be active and show a generic 3D. However, you could do this with any disc cause the screen won't show an image doubling like it does when playing a 3D disc at 1080/24P..... and like I said, you'll get a very generic 3D looking picture.
Edited by energizer30 - 2/1/13 at 3:02pm
post #39 of 76
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Originally Posted by krusemarks View Post


The MW519 does not require 144Hz, it's only if you plan to upgrade to its bigger brother the W1070 that you will be able to take advantage of the 144Hz. I suspect that you will be ok.

Furthermore, even if you don't intend to use the 519 for 3D Blu-rays, you'll still need them if you have DISH or some other HDTV and wish to watch 3D enabled broadcasts as most of those are also 1080/24P
post #40 of 76
so, let me understand: this projector requires 144hz dlp glasses for 1080p/24 3d movies?
120hz glasses are good only for 720p/60 3d (i.e. videogames)?
post #41 of 76
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Originally Posted by enerizer39 View Post

From the specs, this unit is far better then the Acer. The 3D is plenty bright.... take off the glasses and it's a light cannon while playing a 3D disc.
thanks for your replies. so, do you own a mw519?
sometimes specs can lie and I want to be sure, before buy. my main use would be for videogames and some movies, 2d and 3d, both from pc and consoles.
is there anyone here who can compare this prj to the acer h5360bd and the optoma hd600x (which are the alternatives i'm considering)?
i'm mainly worried about RBE. if it's the same for all three models, i'm quite sure i'll buy this one.

and about the 144hz glasses, i guess the new generation benq glasses are fine, but they cost about 100€ each pair. are there low-cost dlp glasses which support 144hz?
Edited by SignorMiyagi - 2/4/13 at 7:37am
post #42 of 76
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are there low-cost dlp glasses which support 144hz?

Yep, I buried them in the original post.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SainSonic-144Hz-3D-DLP-Link-Ready-Universal-Rechargeable-Active-Shutter-Glasses-/180897556929?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123

You can also find good discussions on this topic in the W1070 thread here.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1435626/benq-w1070-dlp-full-hd-3d-ready-with-lens-shift-for-1000

One interesting tip in that thread was that if you experience a loss of synchronization in bright scenes (that may overpower the sync flash) try using a red marker to dim/tint the sensor on the glasses.

I personally never experienced this issue with the SainSonics.
post #43 of 76
ok, i'll try the sainsonic, thanks cool.gif

i'd like to know, since the resolution is 1280x800 (16:10), if i watch a 16:9 stream (i.e. 720p/1080p from console), the projector will share the black bands half on top and half on bottom?
or i can choose where to put the image (i.e. full top or full bottom)?

another thing: when i use the projector in 1280x800 from PC via hdmi, can i choose SBS or top-bottom 3D mode?
it should be useful to fill the entire 16:10 image and in the same time use the 3D (i use Tridef software on PC).

thanks in advance for the replies wink.gif
Edited by SignorMiyagi - 2/9/13 at 10:56am
post #44 of 76
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Originally Posted by SignorMiyagi View Post

i'd like to know, since the resolution is 1280x800 (16:10), if i watch a 16:9 stream (i.e. 720p/1080p from console), the projector will share the black bands half on top and half on bottom?
or i can choose when to put the image (i.e. full top or full bottom)?

Answer: yes, it places black bars across the top and bottom. I can't answer the other questions because my setup prevented me from trying to use the full height.
post #45 of 76
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OP Here, I placed the following content in the initial post just to keep my full story together.

UPDATE - After hanging on to the MW519 for a little over a month, I ended up returning the unit due to the remote locking up when I would be using the 3D settings menus. I ended up replacing it with the W1070 since it was now available, and some additional post Christmas budget had come available. So what did I get for my extra $400, you may ask. The answer is not much for the under $1000 crowd. The MW519 is comparably bright and able to project the same size image with a decent amount of ambient light. The W1070 is native 1080p, which lets me sit about 5 feet closer without seeing any screen door effect. This was my main reason for upgrading. My recliner is pirched right on the verge of the 1.5x screen width distance. The W1070 does not have the light black bars of unused pixels across the top and bottom of the 16x9 content. Using the Sainsonics, the 3D image on dark scenes is more viewable (less dark) on the W1070. As for the overall picture quality difference, my wife and kids did not notice much of a difference.

So, what's my net recommendation? If you're needing a shorter throw, plan to use a screen or framed area rather than a wall (don't want black bars), or plan to sit close (< 1.5x screen width) then consider saving your $ for the W1070. Otherwise, consider the MW519, it is a very nice 3D ready unit for anyone looking to stay under $900. If you have an older projector that's 1500 lumens or less you'll definitely appreciate either choice for the added brighness and 3D potential.
post #46 of 76
Today i pulled the trigger.
Expecting it to arrive after couple of days. Can't wait. biggrin.gif
post #47 of 76
Here is my 2 cent.
Yesterday i watched 2 movies on a projector screen. Wrak it ralph and skyfall. 720p and 1080p
skyfall looked great and wrack it raph was lcd sharp to watch. One thing that has caught my attention are the colors. Reds and oranges look different then my LCD TV but other colors look great. Its like you can choose 16bit or 32 bit colors on a pc. reds are more 16 bit. and wrack Ralph was red and pink the hole movie. Other then that i live it. i don't have any problems with the remote (in 3d options) and when my gf was watching the lg 3d demo on youtube she was scared and stopped watching. The depth is very high and amazing. I haven't try a 3d movie yet but i am sure its going to look great. Its like a portal to a different wold.

The projector noise is as much as my xbox360 when not doing anything so i can handle it. No problems there and when i watch a movie with a harman kardon surround system i cant hear it anymore.

all and all it's a great projector for only 450 euro even if its my first projector i am very impressed.
and about the rbe: i can sense them but i can't see them. it only happens when i look down fast to read the subtitles. fast movement of the eyes and a dlp projector are not going well together.

bottom line i am in love with it.
if you want a bright, hd, 3d and very cheap projector you won't find a better one.
post #48 of 76
What is the average size of an image are you able to project with this projector?? How much brightness is lost in the different 3D modes?? Do they vary depending on what 3D setting you use?? When using the HDMI 3D how are the colors and are you allowed to change settings??
post #49 of 76
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I was projecting a 140 inch diagonal, and it had plenty of brightness for a moderately lit room. You loose a noticeable amount of brightness with 3d viewing due to the tint of the glasses, and the fact that each eye is only seeing half of the projector's flashes. The 3D viewing mode selected did not appear to affect the brightness of the 3D content. If this is your first 3D projector, I would suggest visiting a local projector store to see a demo for yourself. The cut in brightness would be common to any 3D active projector so you could get a sense of what happens. Bottom line is that I reserve 3D viewing for times when you can black out the room (it also cuts down on reflections in the glasses).

This is one of the brightest projectors in this price range so if you're thinking of going big this is a good choice.
post #50 of 76
This will be my second projector purchase. i currently have a almost 4 year old viewsonic pjd6211 projector that does 3D over VGA using the 120 htz on my computer. Doesn't even have HDMI, lol . I've had this a while and will be looking for an upgrade at end of year. My viewsonic projector is 2500 lumans and 3000:1 contrast but when you switch it to 3d it cuts the lumans and contrast EASLY in half to probably 1200 lumans not to mention like you said the DLP glasses cut as well. I've been content with it but It's time for the the next upgrade to last me another 3- 5 years. If what you say is correct then switching to this projector will probably blow me away compared to what I have now. Also, my current projector only give a solid 75 inch screen. The other projector i've been looking at is the Vivitek D803W-3D. Another concern is will my current optoma BG-ZD101 DLP glasses work with this projector. I Know I'll need to buy some 144hz dlp glasses though if i do 3D blue ray but it's nice to know i can use the optoma DLP for my video game playing. Also, I know this projector only has a 1 years warranty, though i can buy an extended one for about $70, where as the Vivitek comes with a 3 year warranty. One other positive on the BenQ is the lamp life. The vivitek lamp life in eco mode is 4000 where as the BenQ is 6000 in eco mode and that is a VERY good plus for the BenQ. Oh, and last the vivitek is 3600 lumans where as the BenQ is 2800 lumans but Honestly I'm VERY content with 2800 lumans of the BenQ knowing theres barely any drop in brightness compared the projector i currently have. Looks like the BenQ may have it but by time i get around to buying it there may be others that are out by then at same price with better specs...We'll see.
Edited by narhic_fd - 3/24/13 at 2:35pm
post #51 of 76
what about ghosting in 3D mode?
how good are results with the classic left-right image, like this:
http://g-vision.de/files/3D_Testcard_SidebySide.jpg

or this:

http://3dfrank.com/testpattern.jpg

???
Edited by SignorMiyagi - 3/25/13 at 7:28am
post #52 of 76
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Originally Posted by krusemarks View Post

I was projecting a 140 inch diagonal, and it had plenty of brightness for a moderately lit room.

This is one of the brightest projectors in this price range so if you're thinking of going big this is a good choice.

how far away from your screen do you have your projector??
post #53 of 76
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post #54 of 76
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Originally Posted by krusemarks View Post

I was projecting a 140 inch diagonal, and it had plenty of brightness for a moderately lit room. You loose a noticeable amount of brightness with 3d viewing due to the tint of the glasses, and the fact that each eye is only seeing half of the projector's flashes. The 3D viewing mode selected did not appear to affect the brightness of the 3D content. If this is your first 3D projector, I would suggest visiting a local projector store to see a demo for yourself. The cut in brightness would be common to any 3D active projector so you could get a sense of what happens. Bottom line is that I reserve 3D viewing for times when you can black out the room (it also cuts down on reflections in the glasses).

This is one of the brightest projectors in this price range so if you're thinking of going big this is a good choice.

Once the projector is set to 3D mode does it cause the image to become washed out on the black levels?? How does the image look in 3D mode vs. 2D mode, when it comes to the contrast and color?? Once the projector is in 3D Mode, does it disable the brightness, contrast, Gama and other color settings like in other projectors or do you still have full access to those?? And you really mean you can't notice a loss of brightness, minus the DLP glasses, in 3D mode.
post #55 of 76
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Originally Posted by narhic_fd View Post

Once the projector is set to 3D mode does it cause the image to become washed out on the black levels?? How does the image look in 3D mode vs. 2D mode, when it comes to the contrast and color?? Once the projector is in 3D Mode, does it disable the brightness, contrast, Gama and other color settings like in other projectors or do you still have full access to those?? And you really mean you can't notice a loss of brightness, minus the DLP glasses, in 3D mode.
i'd really like to know this too...
post #56 of 76
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Originally Posted by SignorMiyagi View Post

what about ghosting in 3D mode?
how good are results with the classic left-right image, like this:
http://g-vision.de/files/3D_Testcard_SidebySide.jpg

or this:

http://3dfrank.com/testpattern.jpg

???

i made a video for your intrest
post #57 of 76
and one more
post #58 of 76
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Originally Posted by narhic_fd View Post

how far away from your screen do you have your projector??
4 to 5 meters.
Edited by tinzo - 4/9/13 at 7:17am
post #59 of 76
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Originally Posted by narhic_fd View Post

Once the projector is set to 3D mode does it cause the image to become washed out on the black levels?? How does the image look in 3D mode vs. 2D mode, when it comes to the contrast and color?? Once the projector is in 3D Mode, does it disable the brightness, contrast, Gama and other color settings like in other projectors or do you still have full access to those?? And you really mean you can't notice a loss of brightness, minus the DLP glasses, in 3D mode.

Once the projector is set to 3D mode does it cause the image to become washed out on the black levels?? No

How does the image look in 3D mode vs. 2D mode, when it comes to the contrast and color?? not as good as 2d. but this is a problem with all projectors i think.

Gama and other color settings like in other projectors or do you still have full access to those?? you only can adjust the contrast and brightnes. if you put it to high you see pixels dancing in bright spots lik clouds or a flashlight. whits in general
post #60 of 76
Do you think you could post a video like the Bond movie but one that is in 3D so we can have a general idea how the contrast and stuff, as well as brightness, looks when it's in 3D. Would be cool if you could actually switch the image from 2D then 3D so we can get a side by side look and see the difference.
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