Originally Posted by zheka
I think the room is an often overlooked factor. Note that while most posters here have ref. level capable setups, very few if any have room treated to the extend MK has, which may explain why ref level sounds good in his theater.
on time domain distortion perception had shown that even small amounts of linear and delay related distortion is reliably detectable at high volume levels. In other words reflections from a nearby coffee table or cabinet edge diffractions may not bother you at 90dB but become aggravating at 100dB.
I am in group #2
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Originally Posted by brian6751
i have found that when pushing the volume up high, its the bad sounds from reflections that hurt my ears
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Originally Posted by tuxedocivic
So maybe the moral of the story is spend more on the room and less on our speakers.
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Many of us love gear. We do love music and viewing enjoyable, immersive content in our home systems,... but man we do love the gear. An ideally put together system is what many covet. Many spend countless hours contemplating the next step we'll take toward eliminating the weakest link in our system,..and I'm no exception.
Considering everything I discovered over the past several decades in audio, I kow that superb audio, is all about the room. And the room, is all about the time domain.
The perceived quality of us experiencing playback at realistic levels, and higher
, does depend on the time domain. How the decay characteristics over time, at various frequencies, combined with nasty clarity smearing early reflections, all manifest into how tolerable a particular playback level will be. All too often I see countless equipt. racks, inappropriate boundary surfaces, display panels, etc, all playing a negative role in the energy coming off our painstakingly designed/built/purchased speakers,...before it even has a chance.
The loudspeaker end of the room, and the space immeadiately between the LP and the speakers, is so damn important. That fact, plus, ... and more relative to this discussion, the overall decay of the room, plays a overwhelming role in how we perceive reference level.
I know acoustics isn't as sexy as loudspeakers and subs, but it's where the gold is.
Good discussion, interesting points made.