Originally Posted by Newbie01
Not a big fan of your Receiver choice... I would stick with Denon or Onkyo but if you researched it and you want what that receiver has..ok... Onkyo 818 can be had delivered for 750..much better choice in my opinon ...also if you pay with Amex you extend the warranty for another year.
Cables Sewell Deadbolt Banana Plugs with Fast-Lock Technology from Amazon and Monoprice 12 gauge speaker wire...worked wonders for me.
Mounts try the VideoSecu One Pair of Side Clamping Speaker Mounting Bracket for $25 bucks.
HDMI cables..get inexpensive ones that are rated 1.4a rated...in case you want to do 3d at some point. They should be a few bucks.
HSU...solid choice and should pair well with the EMP Tek.
I would save a couple bucks and go with two sets of bookshelf rather than bipole / dipole.
Just the receiver change and the bookshelf change would be 500 bucks savings.
Since it is free...there is allot of debate over this...but it is free to try...may want to hold off on the center channel speaker and at least try phantom center. If you hate it...you can still pick up a center.
If you don't mind a phantom...boom...there is your 4k budget kept
Same I strongly dislike the AVR choice. I just don't see why you need a 9.2 channel receiver at all. I like the person who suggested the Onkyo 709. It's the amplifier I picked out for my setup as well. You don't seem to want multiple subs, so the newer version of Audessy on the 818 isn't really going to be that much of an improvement, also this 818 has a hindered version of Audessy as well so I'm not a HUGE fan of it. I think the MultiXT on the 709 will be perfect for your setup.
I'd only say the 818 if you had put the multiple subs on every one of your designs but you haven't. I have some HUGE gripes with the Pioneer setup but that's my personal thing. The fact that you can't set individual crossovers, their volume shows only on the receiver and not on screen, etc. there are just a lot of weird things. Just read through a pioneer thread and you'll see weird things that are VERY simple on Onkyo yet difficult or not available on Pioneer. The pioneer is more aesthetic, and has the D Class amplifier but the Onkyo is so much simpler to use.
My full suggestion (Since you like the empteks and I'm an aesthetics whore and I think they're aesthetic I'll just use that).
EMPTek E55Ti Towers L-R $795 pair
EMPTek E56Ci Large Center Channel Speaker - $450
Surrounds (Just these, they're pretty I like em I can't help myself)
EMPTek E55Wi Surround On-Wall - $499 pair
EMPTek E5Bi Bookshelf Speaker - $250 pair
Onkyo 709 - Search around a bit since you're waiting. You'll find it under 400 easily. Why not the AVR you picked? I don't see you having a 9.2 channel system. You have a 7.1. If you have plans to 9.2 then maybe but when you save 600+ dollars that allows you put a dedicated amplifier you'll definitely increase the life of all your products. Why risk underpowering your speakers and potentially run into amplifier clipping and damage your speakers if you can get more performance for the same price? the Onkyo 709 + Emotiva XPA-3 seems like a no brainer. MultiXT on the 709 seems like a steal as well. In fact, Onkyo believes it as well, hence why they removed MultiXT on the 717 and gave it Audessy2EQ.
Sub(Why not two outlaws? Maybe it'll perform better but this is 1 VTF-15H. Probably one of the best subs you'll own before you head closer to the DIY. I'd rather have one great sub than 2 good subs. You can add another VTF-15H later down the road)
Hsu Research VTF-15H - $879
Things get a little tricky here because I just got my first amplifier and it's a pro amp. I want to suggest that but because I have no clue how you're theater will be set up it's hard. If you have everything hidden in a rack behind a wall a proamp is definitely the cheaper more cost efficient way to go. If everything is on display then a Emotiva. I'm just going to show the Emotiva one here though.
XPA - 3
- $500 (Run the rears off the AVR it has more than enough power for the surrounds)
Accessories(Speaker Wire, Banana Plugs, HDMI Cables will not cost you more than 40-50 dollars. The mounts of I have no clue about)
Speaker Wire - Banana Plugs - Mounts - HDMI cables etc +- $200
You're looking at a little less than what you spend, but with an Emotiva XPA-3 to power the front sound stage.
I really just can't see the SC-65 being the right AVR for you and the difference between the Onkyo 709 and 809 is negligible. I tried to find differences I could care about and there were only 3. The difference between the 809 and the 818 is mostly the Audessy MutliXT 32 but since you don't have 2 subs, and that version of Audessy on the 818 is dumbed down anyway apparently, I think the 709 is the best bang for buck if you can also get it under 400. I got mine for 310 dollars which is a steal for an AVR with preouts and MutliXT. The 717 is horrific with a worse version of Audessy (Why they made a new AVR that's worse than the previous model just seems like they're taking advantage of consumers who aren't tech savy).Edited by tential - 3/9/13 at 1:37pm