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post #121 of 166
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@delta...how are urs Energy'z breaking in ???
post #122 of 166
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Well....folks...Iv EQ'd and tested and tried....the Emotiva XPR-5 and it doesnt have the balls that I was hoping for...My Pioneer Elite SC-67 is MORE powerful than the Emotiva....Im gonna send it back....
post #123 of 166
Unlikely that's true, but if you were expecting a night and day difference from only about 4dB difference then I can see why you might be inclined to question the Emotiva amp.
post #124 of 166
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@who...I gotta give it to Pioneer....that lil 140 per chnl...kiks the Emotivs's butt.....soooooo...what i think im gonna do is....I dont have any probz with the sounds for movies....its awsum...but the music??? Im gonna have to go to Pro-Audio speakers and amp to get what I want....
post #125 of 166
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I was lookin at buyin 2 more RTiA9's and run them in the back or get Polk LSiM707's as my mains...and put the RTiA9z in the back....but they both are rated under 100db......So I know EAW speakers....from my singing days.....so I think Im gonna get the EAW LA325's and a very large power amp...to listen to my music.....these speakers sound like gold...what suxx is...I just sold a QSC amp that wld be perfect for this set up......does anyone have any other suggestions ???
post #126 of 166
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post #127 of 166
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Originally Posted by chazz1234 View Post

@delta...how are urs Energy'z breaking in ???

the sound out of the rc 70 just didnt do it for me.. so i just took back 3 of 5.. i thought i was buy a 1200 speaker for 399 but really its just a 399 speaker...

the veritas 6.3 where way better sounding but they smoked... so i guess i missed out on some good speakers at good prices boxing sales have gone now..

think i will check out some paradigms in the nexts few weeks.. im not into paying top dollars tho..

just a beer budget guy...
post #128 of 166
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Originally Posted by chazz1234 View Post

I was lookin at buyin 2 more RTiA9's and run them in the back or get Polk LSiM707's as my mains...and put the RTiA9z in the back....but they both are rated under 100db......So I know EAW speakers....from my singing days.....so I think Im gonna get the EAW LA325's and a very large power amp...to listen to my music.....these speakers sound like gold...what suxx is...I just sold a QSC amp that wld be perfect for this set up......does anyone have any other suggestions ???

that la speaker looks a bit like dj equipment.. but if it sounds like gold must be good stuff...

was just peeking at specs on a speaker called kef blades rated upto 117 db..
if you wanted a speaker that is a bit more homey looking lol...

cheers
post #129 of 166
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Originally Posted by chazz1234 View Post

I was lookin at buyin 2 more RTiA9's and run them in the back or get Polk LSiM707's as my mains...and put the RTiA9z in the back....but they both are rated under 100db......So I know EAW speakers....from my singing days.....so I think Im gonna get the EAW LA325's and a very large power amp...to listen to my music.....these speakers sound like gold...what suxx is...I just sold a QSC amp that wld be perfect for this set up......does anyone have any other suggestions ???

that la speaker looks a bit like dj equipment.. but if it sounds like gold must be good stuff...

was just peeking at specs on a speaker called kef blades rated upto 117 db..
if you wanted a speaker that is a bit more homey looking lol...

cheers

might add magnepan to your line up.. since you want a speaker to pump power into...

cheers
post #130 of 166
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So Iv sent the Emotiva amp back....booooo... it just didnt have any balluxx.....It is a 100lbs of woossy.....its a "nice " amp......and if one is looking for a beautiful mid level loudness amp...this ones for u...but if u want a kik u in the face amp....this model aint it....
post #131 of 166
Your answer.... is back....... in post #123......you thought........400W....... was going to be some......... huge difference....... from 140........and it isn't.........there is nothing....... wrong.....with......the.....Emo.....amp.....in regard......to......power......or.....balls......the problem is.....a flawed.....expectation or understanding......of differences in wattage....

Did anyone ever explain to you that it takes TEN times more power to be twice as loud (+10db)? The Emo is only +4dB from what you had/have in the Pioneer, a slight difference that some people may not even notice in terms of pure volume.
Edited by whoaru99 - 1/10/13 at 5:03am
post #132 of 166
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Originally Posted by chazz1234 View Post

So Iv sent the Emotiva amp back....booooo... it just didnt have any balluxx.....It is a 100lbs of woossy.....its a "nice " amp......and if one is looking for a beautiful mid level loudness amp...this ones for u...but if u want a kik u in the face amp....this model aint it....

This entire thread is a train wreck.
post #133 of 166
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@whoaru...u sure are right....it was a waste of tym and $$$$......
@Bfreed.....it might be a train wreck for u...but it is a great learning opportunity for me
So all in all....Iv learned alot from this experience and the feedback from uall is awsum !!! THANK UALL SO VERY MUCH
post #134 of 166
In my opinion 2 areas that seem to create a lot of confusion
On this forum are BI-AMPING and the need/expectation of
Adding an external amp. Unfortunately none of the "confused"
Want to listen to reason, especially when it comes to the expense
Of the amps. At least the bi-amp experiment won't cost them $700
And up.
post #135 of 166
That depends on whether or not they buy an amp to try biamping.

If you're a true audio geek you probably have a couple spares laying around that can be used for such experimentation. wink.gif
post #136 of 166
Class D, H, A and A/B all sound the same I think not!
post #137 of 166
Huh?
post #138 of 166
I haven't read through this whole thread but if the OP is really looking to crank out some serious db's, these Polk RTi series of speakers are probably part of the problem. Having owned them in the past, while they do pretty well when matched with electronics in their price range, they start to fall apart when driven by better electronics. Also, I've found the drivers in the speakers start to hit compression when you lay on the volume. With a good amp, this can happen well before you start to reach the limits of the amp.

If you want to listen loud & really crank out the db's, I'd suggest looking at different speakers.
post #139 of 166
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Originally Posted by daren_p View Post

I haven't read through this whole thread but if the OP is really looking to crank out some serious db's, these Polk RTi series of speakers are probably part of the problem. Having owned them in the past, while they do pretty well when matched with electronics in their price range, they start to fall apart when driven by better electronics. Also, I've found the drivers in the speakers start to hit compression when you lay on the volume. With a good amp, this can happen well before you start to reach the limits of the amp.

If you want to listen loud & really crank out the db's, I'd suggest looking at different speakers.

what speakers do you like to recommend for pounding out dbs?

cheers
post #140 of 166
Klipsch.
post #141 of 166
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

what speakers do you like to recommend for pounding out dbs?

cheers

I don't have first hand experience with speakers that are designed to really belt out the spl's (as that wasn't my main goal with speaker choice) but yes, typically companies like Klipsch or JBL would be recommended. I'm sure other can help you with this.

In general, as you move up in price, you get a speaker with better designed drivers, that are able to take more "abuse" before they start to have compression issues.

High effiency, possibly horn loaded & large enclosure's are probably some things you want to look at.
post #142 of 166
My new energy veritas 6.3 which are breaking in real nice.. starting to sound great and not so bright as when i 1st started playing now at about 130 hrs.. really sweet moved my limiter upto -10 db

have to get an amp to go higher dont trust my denon 3313 ci to deliever enough power.. need head room.. for me its pretty loud now.. but you always want a bit more sometimes.. lol
post #143 of 166
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My new energy veritas 6.3 which are breaking in real nice.. starting to sound great and not so bright as when i 1st started playing now at about 130 hrs.. really sweet moved my limiter upto -10 db

have to get an amp to go higher dont trust my denon 3313 ci to deliever enough power.. need head room.. for me its pretty loud now.. but you always want a bit more sometimes.. lol

You gotta be rockin Emo XPR-1 monoblocks and biamp those veritas.

go big or don't go.

I'm running 11.2 with all RC-70's, but only got XPA amps, shoulda got the XPR monos in hinesite.
post #144 of 166
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Originally Posted by deltadube View Post

My new energy veritas 6.3 which are breaking in real nice.. starting to sound great and not so bright as when i 1st started playing now at about 130 hrs.. really sweet moved my limiter upto -10 db

have to get an amp to go higher dont trust my denon 3313 ci to deliever enough power.. need head room.. for me its pretty loud now.. but you always want a bit more sometimes.. lol

You gotta be rockin Emo XPR-1 monoblocks and biamp those veritas.

go big or don't go.

I'm running 11.2 with all RC-70's, but only got XPA amps, shoulda got the XPR monos in hinesite.

cool set up all rc70s nothing like overdoing your head room xpr 1 mono blocks LOL

think u need to up grade your speakers...

try totem metals..

not sure how you biamp a mono block... you need 2 amps.. or 2 channels monos are 1 channel only..

cheers
post #145 of 166
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Originally Posted by gostillerz View Post

You gotta be rockin Emo XPR-1 monoblocks and biamp those veritas.

go big or don't go.

I'm running 11.2 with all RC-70's, but only got XPA amps, shoulda got the XPR monos in hinesite.

If power is the goal, biamping with full range signals through the speaker crossovers doesn't get you any more.
post #146 of 166
^^

It was just a joke guys. I forgot to add the rolleyes.gif
post #147 of 166
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^^

It was just a joke guys. I forgot to add the rolleyes.gif

wow just joking eh..

was waiting for you to tell us about your 11 fried rc 70 that couldnt handle the power.. maybe woofers though the walls eh..



cheers
post #148 of 166
What a thread. If the OP is still around, you should have focused on getting some speakers and subs capable of the dynamic range you seem to want....can't get there just by pouring on more watts into speakers that physics won't allow you to do what you want.

I think you need to look at some horn loaded speakers, others have mentioned JBL and Klipsch. Might also try Emerald Physics.

To really get a crushing amount of punch, I think you'd need to go to something like quad subs, spread around your room and crossed over near their upper limit. Something like Hsu ULS 15s.

You could drive that system to extremely loud, clean levels with a 100w amp.
post #149 of 166
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What a thread.
This isn't a thread.....It's a freekin tweet on roidz.....
post #150 of 166
I think .002 distortion at 1 watt ouput would do justice for any speaker system. I could not resist this amplifier any longer and got a 5 month old second hand one coming in as Emotive does not ship these out of the USA. For 400 more than I paid for my yamaha mx 1000u 30 years ago, these puppies got to be the hifi Value play of the century. Hope to get a few more down the road as i got two more yamaha mx 1000 to replace. Figure I may as well replace them while they are working and sell them to collectors, as at 800 a pop, this pays for half the emotiva purchase.

For test freaks this is apparently what happened at emotiva, when you do proper full load testing.

Quote.

And, if everybody plays nice, maybe we'll post some pictures of the new load resistors when they come in. 8-)


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Dec 31, 2012 at 8:25pm Dan Laufman said:
OK gentlemen... enough picking on each other.

Let's not let the Lounge turn into a mean spirited extension of the rest of the world.

Everyone has their reasons for wanting advice, and it doesn't have to make sense to someone else.

We do publish extensive written specifications, but you all have become used to AP data, which interestingly enough is NOT supplied by makers of much more expensive equipment... hmmmm.

We'll have it up soon, but Lonnie is not kidding; we blew up several expensive load banks trying to get them to last long enough for full power AP testing! smile.gif

Like I said before, we'll go head to head with anyone out here. We've got nothing to hide. smile.gif

Happy New Year!
Big Dan
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