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post #181 of 1749
I thought customer is king newbie ? (Just teasing ). What do you have in your system ? Think my next component will be emotiva umc200 . Want to use the eq to balance out the sound.
post #182 of 1749
Hey Chaluga.......if you look at my posted pic you'll see that I have m-lores as surrounds. Eric is willing, and will recommend, to modify the m-lore to a "monitor" so it will fit into your room. You'll only loose some of the bass extension the extra speaker volume creates, but this is the same thing he did with the Pendragon mains to create the Pen center. This way your surrounds are only 12" high.
I would suggest getting a GIK Tri Trap and setting the m-lore on top for a great surround set up.
post #183 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Bpack View Post

Hey Chaluga.......if you look at my posted pic you'll see that I have m-lores as surrounds. Eric is willing, and will recommend, to modify the m-lore to a "monitor" so it will fit into your room. You'll only loose some of the bass extension the extra speaker volume creates, but this is the same thing he did with the Pendragon mains to create the Pen center. This way your surrounds are only 12" high.
I would suggest getting a GIK Tri Trap and setting the m-lore on top for a great surround set up.
So your surrounds in the picture are full size ? Do you know how much the modified 12" surrounds are ?
post #184 of 1749
Right , they are the full size m-lore and stand 34". I was mistaken, they would be 16" tall when modified but have all the Same specs as the standard. I believe the price is 600......the m-lore price. I actually wanted the monitor and was going to place it on top the Tri Trap to get the proper surround speaker level ~5". But these were sent and thought WTF. One day things may change and I'll have a set of m-lores as mains in another small room but for now I'm lovin the sound. Any info on the S12 sub? Did the Pen sub replace it?
post #185 of 1749
I spoke to Eric a few days ago and inquired about the S12's and he told me they are no longer in production and to wait for his next sub he is making. I am assuming its the dual 12 inch sub in the Pendragon HT picture posted on his blog.
post #186 of 1749
Really...just three weeks ago Eric said these subs (Pendragon subs) are some of best in class and I should buy them as part of a Pendragon 5.1 or 5.2 setup.
post #187 of 1749
Yes really. The S12 sub is different than the Pendragon sub (at least look wise) and I was surprised he didn't at least take an order for them when I asked about the S12 but I guess he is that busy smile.gif

When he tells me the subs are good to go I will most likely grab a pair. Which speakers did you end up ordering if any? I placed an order for the Seas model and am waiting to hear back about cost for a center. He told me four weeks but I will give him 8-12 based on what I read in this thread cool.gif
post #188 of 1749
This is why I am inquiring......most companies make a variety of subs. The Pen subs may be best in class for their purpose, but maybe there is another on the way that will be of a "high fidelity" class, smaller and less obtrusive??
post #189 of 1749
Maybe...that Pendragon sub is HUGE!!! smile.gif
post #190 of 1749
Everyone stay tuned to "andrew-robinson-online.com" to get the one and only review of the complete Pendragon Home Theater system. My search to find the sound experience I wanted started some 9 months ago and led me to AR's review. And now......couldn't be happier............or could I?? It will be an interesting series of reviews.
post #191 of 1749
At this point...it would be nice to have another reviewer do the review. Andrew Robinson is a little invested to be absolutely objective in his analysis.

I did have a chance to go over almost all the reviews done by Andrew...and like most professional reviews...I think his worst review was a 4 stars. Maybe I am out of line...just calling it as I see it.

I know everyone wants to justify what they hear and how much they paid or want to be convinced this is the right choice to make...
post #192 of 1749
That's a good point; I do wish another big name review could play a role. Seems though, only the big money names get that kind of consideration.
post #193 of 1749
I would agree that a variety of reviews from several people is best. Before I bought my tekton speakers I spent three months looking at every review of speakers I could find. From pro's to blog's to epinions to forums. What I like about Home Theater reviews is their format. They tell you what components are used, pro's and con's, don't spend half the review with data measurements, and tell you how the item compares to others in its price range.

I know by reading all of Andrew's reviews that four stars means its a good product but to him has some weak areas ( SVS towers with highs), four and a half very strong and five stars really is reserved for items he would buy and use in his own home. Its not like he is reviewing Bose or Radio Shack speakers. I don't agree with everything he says but what I also like is that he reviews cheap pioneer speakers up to expensive stuff.

What I will be looking for in his review is how the pendaragon subs compare to the svs 13 he was gushing about. Do 1200 pair of subs come close to matching one 1600 svs. Their will always be pressure on the reviewers to give positive feedback. If they give a lot of 3 out of 5 star reviews then no one will be sending products in for review.

Alls I really know is I took a leap of faith and bought tekton based a lot on what Andrew said and I have never been happier with an electronic purchase. I guess that makes me a fanboy.
post #194 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Newbie01 View Post

At this point...it would be nice to have another reviewer do the review. Andrew Robinson is a little invested to be absolutely objective in his analysis.

I did have a chance to go over almost all the reviews done by Andrew...and like most professional reviews...I think his worst review was a 4 stars. Maybe I am out of line...just calling it as I see it.

I know everyone wants to justify what they hear and how much they paid or want to be convinced this is the right choice to make...

I've talked to him before in person and I believe his reviews are pretty justified. Sony wasn't happy with em though biggrin.gif

Considering that he actually did purchase them and is not reviewing them for HTR, I'd say this review should be "legit".
post #195 of 1749
Does anyone have the M-Lore, Lore, or Pendragons around the Baltimore/DC area? I'd like to listen to them before purchasing. I know they have a 30 day trial, but shipping and the restocking fee are a pain if I don't like them.
post #196 of 1749
After burning in my Tekton Oriels for a bit, I can say that they are great speakers. Reproduction of voices is especially good. The overall presentation is lively and I am quite happy with the tonal balance from top to bottom. I like the white satin finish a lot. Here are some pictures:


post #197 of 1749
Great to hear , I knew you would love em.
post #198 of 1749
Thread Starter 
I got back from vacation a week ago. Aruba weather was great!! Before I left I sent Eric an e-mail asking him to send the Pen. center speaker. A week later I still had no responce so I called him and he was saying he was going through a divorce, moved to a bigger bldg. and hired someone to help him. He said my center should be shipped in about a week.

I can't post any real results about how these sound yet. I'm waiting on some acoustic panels, the center and then I'll run ARC with my Anthem D2v. Will post results and pics later.

Ken
post #199 of 1749
Really thinking about the Pendragon's. How would they compare to the Klipsch RF7II any opinions appreciated. Please
no I hate horn loaded speakers comments. Some of the best Pro theaters and concert halls in the world use horn loaded drivers,done right they sound just as good as anything else. Again all opinions appreciated.

TIA: Meance
post #200 of 1749
I liked the RF7II. A couple things kept me from getting them after I auditioned the entire RF line up...like 5 times.

1) For lack of a better word I will call it texture ...detail could also be used. When I was listening to the Dynaudio Excite side by side...there are some details I could hear on the Dynaudio that I just couldnt hear with the RF-7II and to be fair..there was a little bit at the top end that I could hear on the RF7II I could not hear with the Dynaudio...this semed to be at the top range..and it was mid range details I was missing.

2) The sound stage although it existed was just not convincing to me...it seemed artificial... dont ask me why..I can't explain it.

3) Looks...sort of like a huge hunk of wood...fairly ugly (not that weighted allot..but it was a minor consideration.

4) A tad bit boomy with that big woofer. Not as accurate as I really wanted. Not saying it wasn't good..but lacked the sharp jab rather but it did have the knockout punch.

5) Cost...brand new they are aweful expensive..now there are tons on secondary market as b stock or used.


I did like the detailed high end, dynamics, sound / loudness over all. The upper end that got on my nerves a little from the lower lvl RF was not present in the 7's.

So..now to Pendragon:

1) Detail is there and it has 95% of what the best speakers in this class have. There are some very minor minor things I dont hear with the Pendragons but they are far and few between..and those other speakers comprimise in other ways...where Tekton is a clear winner.

2) They get loud...ear bleeding ....run for the hills loud (if you want it) and very effortlessly just like the RF7's.

3) Bass is about the same but I feel like Pendragons have more accurate bass but just as loud or a tad lourder.

4) Sound stage = unreal...

If I had to rate the RF-7II I would give them an even 8.

Pendragon = 9.75.

Now saying that..in this price range I dont think you can hit a 10. There are comprises to make..and I think Pendragon made the right ones.. It is also dog oogly though...you can customize it some but lets just call a dog a dog and enjoy the music.

Of course I heard the Pen's twice...for short period of time ...and I only auditioned the 7's in one room at one reseller. This is my own two cents here.
post #201 of 1749
Thanks a lot. That was very helpful. I've read the review on the Pendragons found here http://hometheaterreview.com/tekton-design-pendragon-floorstanding-loudspeaker-reviewed/ But I noticed they were also a sponsor of the site so I have to take with a grain of salt(no disrespect to the reviewer). The only review I found of the RF7II is here http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-57467757-47/the-klipsch-rf-7-ii-a-great-rock-speaker/ and is really not worth much. Any help from others will be appreciated. I can get a pair of open box A stock RF7II for $2065 delivered. Are the Pendragons worth the extra money. Money burning a hole in my pocket:D so I would like to buy next week.

TIA; Meance
post #202 of 1749
The Pendragons are like 2700 delivered...so that is 700 bucks...its allot.

The biggest difference between the RF-7II is the sound stage... At least what I listened to...the Pendragon is 122.5 miles ahead of the RF-7IIs.
post #203 of 1749
Everyone who has got the pendragons has said wow ! If your planning on having these speakers for five or more years then spend the extra dough and get the pendragons. Read this. http://parttimeaudiophile.com/2012/01/02/part-one-introducing-the-tekton-pendragon-option-ii/

And this
http://www.stereomojo.com/Tekton%20Pendragon%20Loudspeaker%20Review.htm/TektonPendragonLoudspeakerReview.htm

That's 3 different people including Andrew robinson who really like them. I like the part of how you can pick the custom color for free. The blue I picked goes really well with the room. Like it a lot more then black
post #204 of 1749
I've not had one person listen to my set of Pendragons that has not said "Wow".

There are many great speakers out there but there is something extra with these Pendragons.
post #205 of 1749
Just watched movie LINCOLN . Great movie ,except for Sally field. Lincolns voice sounded lyrical on pendragon . Not much for subwoofer to do but really enjoyed it.
post #206 of 1749
Thanks everyone all the comments/information is greatly appreciated. I should've mentioned that it will probably be used for 60% home theater at 40% music as my Wife has taken over the home theater room. If this does not change any of the comments then woo hoo Pendragon's here I come.

TIA: Menace
post #207 of 1749
Great song on tektons is wheat kings by tragically hip. Good Canadian band. Guitar plucking crisp.
post #208 of 1749
What is the next step down from Pentagon and how much do you sacrifice in sound?? What kind of amps/recv are you using with these.
post #209 of 1749
^ Next step down in price is the Enzo, check them out under the blog. No one knows yet how they sound because to date other than one review pair I don't think any have been finished and shipped.

You should be able to use about anything to drive these. I think I am going to get in to tube amps with the Enzo.
post #210 of 1749
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Originally Posted by LVS View Post

^ Next step down in price is the Enzo, check them out under the blog. No one knows yet how they sound because to date other than one review pair I don't think any have been finished and shipped.

You should be able to use about anything to drive these. I think I am going to get in to tube amps with the Enzo.

I've got a 40w 2 channel tube amp that I plan to use on the M-Lore (assuming I don't cancel my order this week). I'm currently using this amp with the EMP Tek E-41 bookshelf speakers and they sound great.
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