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post #601 of 1749
I just received my full size Pendragon's and I can easily say that these are the best speakers less than $25k I have ever heard. It is like wearing the best headphones ever, and as you turn it up you go from sitting back next to the sound man, to sitting on the stage with the musicians. It is a full musical experience with hearing and feeling the sound, full scalable, and pretty much without limit. These are replacing a pair of Vienna Acoustics, which I blew a driver in and while getting it fixed started looking. These Tekton Pendragons make the Vienna Acoustics sounds like they are in Kindergarden and Pendragon is playing on a top team in a top professional league. Completely different world and they probably have only 50 hours on them so far...
post #602 of 1749
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Originally Posted by V8POWER View Post

I just received my full size Pendragon's and I can easily say that these are the best speakers less than $25k I have ever heard. It is like wearing the best headphones ever, and as you turn it up you go from sitting back next to the sound man, to sitting on the stage with the musicians. It is a full musical experience with hearing and feeling the sound, full scalable, and pretty much without limit. These are replacing a pair of Vienna Acoustics, which I blew a driver in and while getting it fixed started looking. These Tekton Pendragons make the Vienna Acoustics sounds like they are in Kindergarden and Pendragon is playing on a top team in a top professional league. Completely different world and they probably have only 50 hours on them so far...


Congrats on your pens! I'm very happy for you and glad you are enjoying them!

What type of music do you listen to? and do the pens shine on all types?

How long was the wait?
post #603 of 1749
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Originally Posted by seifer300 View Post

Eric just emailed me to tell me that my SEOS Pens are ready to ship if I still want them. Considering I canceled the order about two weeks ago I replied and said I will take them.

Overall I was quoted four weeks and it has been twelve to complete my order so to other potential buyers out there move on if the wait will be a problem for you. As for the grills, I know that will be quite some time but at least I now know what to expect thanks to other owners input.
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Originally Posted by seifer300 View Post

Yes according to Eric's website he uses "Seas" but when I saw other DIYers use the term Seos I figured maybe Eric was wrong. Or maybe a new driver out called Seas? smile.gif


I think you're referring to the SEAS Pendragons and Eric.

Someone sent me a link to this thread saying I should check it out and clear up the confusion. After reading your post and a couple others I was a little confused for a second.

I've been helping with the SEOS speaker kits and other flat packs and my name happens to be Erich, but I'm not the same Eric that's being discussed in this thread, and I don't believe he sells speakers using the SEOS waveguide. biggrin.gif

SEAS Pendragon: Eric at Tekton
SEOS waveguides: Erich at DIY Sound Group
post #604 of 1749
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Originally Posted by V8POWER View Post

I just received my full size Pendragon's and I can easily say that these are the best speakers less than $25k I have ever heard. It is like wearing the best headphones ever, and as you turn it up you go from sitting back next to the sound man, to sitting on the stage with the musicians. It is a full musical experience with hearing and feeling the sound, full scalable, and pretty much without limit. These are replacing a pair of Vienna Acoustics, which I blew a driver in and while getting it fixed started looking. These Tekton Pendragons make the Vienna Acoustics sounds like they are in Kindergarden and Pendragon is playing on a top team in a top professional league. Completely different world and they probably have only 50 hours on them so far...

Congratulations!

This is exactly how I felt about my Pendragons when placing them in my room. It was then I realized how the rich folk lived in the audiophile world but it didn't cost me $18K to put them in my living room. So it made me feel even richer.
post #605 of 1749
Wish I could order a pair of these....I sent him another email and all I got was another LinkedIn request ha!
post #606 of 1749
Edit - duplicate post
Edited by s610adam - 5/27/13 at 11:55am
post #607 of 1749
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Originally Posted by guteLaune View Post

At high volume, the soundstage produced is just epic. These aren't full-range, but darn close. I have yet to try a tube amp with them, but I'd be interested in some suggestions, as it seems many tube amps are pretty damn expensive. The emotiva is just your basic, clean, powerful amp. It sounds just fine and gets the job done. Ultimately, I'd like to find a great tube pre-amp to get the best of both worlds.

guteLaune,
Thanks for your impressions on the Enzo, have you looked into other amps since your review? Still happy with the speakers?

I love my M-Lores, but I'm interested in the Enzos now too... Listener's opinions on the soundstage and efficiency of the Pendragons appear to be fantastic, but I guess I'm more comfortable with the idea of pairing an 8" driver (m-lore and enzo) with tweeters than I am with the 10" on the Pen.

It's not that I feel the M-Lores are lacking in my stereo music setup, I'm just interested to see if the Enzo is "more of a good thing". Plus gain some additional headroom for the low powered amps. I'm just using a Onkyo to drive them right now, but I would like to build a FirstWatt F5 as well as a SET (maybe a Tubelab SSE)

guteLaune - it looks like you're a fellow Michigander (we live in Clarkston). Would you PM me if you'd consider having my wife and I over for a listen? We could bring the M's, and/or the low-power amps when I finish them!


For what it's worth, my speakers arrived within the 6 week window:

Speakers: M-Lore
Order Date: February 4, 2013
Delivery Date: March 13, 2013
post #608 of 1749
Edit - Duplicate. I guess my posts get audited since I'm new to this forum
Edited by s610adam - 5/27/13 at 1:05pm
post #609 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Soundman5000 View Post

If any of you are doing 2 ch with the Tektons and listen at low to mid (normal) levels may I suggest the Decware amplifier website blogs http://www.decware.com/newsite/homepage.html and a single ended tube amp as a perfect combo with the Pendragons. Great info on the Decware site about tiny power amps and hi efficient 94db+ speakers. I researched the Decware forms for months and is what convinced me that I just had to try low power (2-7 wpc). I had no idea that less power can be better! Now, nothing else will do for me for regular listening and was the main reason I purchased the Pendragons. I wanted to make the most out of the 7 very special watts I have. The Tektons being one of the few speakers efficient enough to work with these tiny magical amps it is just a perfect match IMO but I do not see many folks on this site using them with the Pendragons yet. I found the Decware web site very informative and the concept that the best watt is the 1st watt fascinating. I DID NOT try or buy a Decware but I did buy a few other brands of similar designed amps. I found the low power way of life has a kind of cult following and now I know why. The magic of the single ended tube with the right high efficient speaker ( trust me, the Tektons are the right speaker) is something that must be experienced. The imaging and soundstage is just incredible and the amps can be had from a few hundred up. I have tried lots of these amps and have my favorites so if any specific additional info will help just let me know. I have found for a true out of body euphoric ( head phone like) 2 ch experience with the Tektons I cannot recommend anything better than a Made in America, point to point wired, class a tube single ended low power amp. May not shake the walls but makes the speakers disappear and brings Norah Jones to my listening room and gives me enough volume 95% of the time. Truly Amazing combo IMO!

Soundman,
Which lower power tube amps have been your favorites? I'm interested in any comments you have in that 2-7 watt range, including overall volume.

I tend to list to acoustic and rock


Thanks!
post #610 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Soundman5000 View Post

If any of you are doing 2 ch with the Tektons and listen at low to mid (normal) levels may I suggest the Decware amplifier website blogs http://www.decware.com/newsite/homepage.html and a single ended tube amp as a perfect combo with the Pendragons. Great info on the Decware site about tiny power amps and hi efficient 94db+ speakers. I researched the Decware forms for months and is what convinced me that I just had to try low power (2-7 wpc). I had no idea that less power can be better! Now, nothing else will do for me for regular listening and was the main reason I purchased the Pendragons. I wanted to make the most out of the 7 very special watts I have. The Tektons being one of the few speakers efficient enough to work with these tiny magical amps it is just a perfect match IMO but I do not see many folks on this site using them with the Pendragons yet. I found the Decware web site very informative and the concept that the best watt is the 1st watt fascinating. I DID NOT try or buy a Decware but I did buy a few other brands of similar designed amps. I found the low power way of life has a kind of cult following and now I know why. The magic of the single ended tube with the right high efficient speaker ( trust me, the Tektons are the right speaker) is something that must be experienced. The imaging and soundstage is just incredible and the amps can be had from a few hundred up. I have tried lots of these amps and have my favorites so if any specific additional info will help just let me know. I have found for a true out of body euphoric ( head phone like) 2 ch experience with the Tektons I cannot recommend anything better than a Made in America, point to point wired, class a tube single ended low power amp. May not shake the walls but makes the speakers disappear and brings Norah Jones to my listening room and gives me enough volume 95% of the time. Truly Amazing combo IMO!

Soundman,
Which lower power tube amps have been your favorites? I'm interested in any comments you have in that 2-7 watt range, including overall volume.

I tend to list to acoustic and rock


Thanks!

I have a few favorite amps. Some are the old 1960's console Magnavox amps that folks removed and rebuilt or built newer versions based on similar design. Those Magnavox amps are truly something special! I use both the single ended 5 -7 wpc and a push pull Magnavox that someone rebuilt using a stop sign and all the original Magnavox transformers ( see pic) but all new caps and such. Is rated around 15 wpc. This guy truly gets the Pendragon kicking minus just a bit of that magic a single ended amps bring but almost as good and punchier if you like it louder. This guy can be more fun on a Friday night and 15 old school USA tube watts truly gets the Pens jumping and is as loud as I can stand sitting 6' to 8' back. I have a collection of a few eBay Magnavox gems for as little as $200 to $275, A true bargain IMO. I also have a few single ended Dennis Had Inspire amps ( former owner of Cary Audio). His amps do run over $1K but well worth it if not worth much, more IMO. Truly overbuilt with care and Dennis is a true artist. I have found he takes the cake when it comes to service and when he promises something or give you a time of delivery you can count on what he says. TRUE customer service at it's BEST! Link to a forum about what he is doing now http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=496951 I have purchased several designs from him and all are just delightful and are my amps of choice at the moment. All his products are point to point wired and hand built to the finest standards. He sells these on eBay from time to time and all his products come with my highest recommendation.
Regarding the volume...Using the efficient Pendragons all of my tiny amps do very good and are perfect for my smaller room and what I call normal listening levels. I am a Steely dan kinda guy; if I had to narrow my choice to a favorite style of music for reference to give you an idea. I do have a few 40 - 65 wpc amps that I have not used in the last year or so as the single ended guys and my 15 watt Maggie do just fine with the Pendragons. The lower power amp just have that special " the vocalists in the room with me" sound. A trade off in volume or low end slam but I will take that tradeoff any-day as that "real" sound is what I am always looking for and I feel I have enough juice for most everything. My room is heavily treated with sound panels and thick furniture so in a more lively "normal" room with less padding the Pendragons would have even more volume I would think.
I will say after all these years of listening to Hi Fi I decided that I was not going to limit myself to just one amp as they all do things different and some of my little guys sound much better than some high dollar older stuff I have had over the years. I find that I enjoy running my punchy $250, 15 wpc Magnavox for a month then changing back over to my single ended for that wonderful vocal magic. Keeps my ears fresh rolling a few amps. I roll the tubes as well and I have found a very cool hobby collecting tubes.
Enjoy
Edited by Soundman5000 - 5/28/13 at 4:40am
post #611 of 1749
Hi, Everyone I am new here .But I have been reading a lot of the post. Just to let everyone know eric has moved to a bigger building and has hired 5 new people. So his hopes is to get everything running quicker, I guess that would be the best word. I started looking for new speakers about 8 mos ago. I read a lot and I did order the m-lore 5.1 system which I power with a emotive xpa-5 even thought I have not been doing this long would I wait for the speakers again the only thing I can say is yes. I love them My budget would not let me go to the pendragon,s any one looking for a great sounding 5.1 system which my room is not a large one. Tekton speakers are the way to go
post #612 of 1749
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Originally Posted by zackie2 View Post

Hi, Everyone I am new here .But I have been reading a lot of the post. Just to let everyone know eric has moved to a bigger building and has hired 5 new people. So his hopes is to get everything running quicker, I guess that would be the best word. I started looking for new speakers about 8 mos ago. I read a lot and I did order the m-lore 5.1 system which I power with a emotive xpa-5 even thought I have not been doing this long would I wait for the speakers again the only thing I can say is yes. I love them My budget would not let me go to the pendragon,s any one looking for a great sounding 5.1 system which my room is not a large one. Tekton speakers are the way to go
Yes, I read about the activities at Tekton over on the Emotiva forum.
post #613 of 1749
You have emotiva gear
post #614 of 1749
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Originally Posted by zackie2 View Post

Hi, Everyone I am new here .But I have been reading a lot of the post. Just to let everyone know eric has moved to a bigger building and has hired 5 new people. So his hopes is to get everything running quicker, I guess that would be the best word. I started looking for new speakers about 8 mos ago. I read a lot and I did order the m-lore 5.1 system which I power with a emotive xpa-5 even thought I have not been doing this long would I wait for the speakers again the only thing I can say is yes. I love them My budget would not let me go to the pendragon,s any one looking for a great sounding 5.1 system which my room is not a large one. Tekton speakers are the way to go
Earlier, I gave a link to an article in HomeTheaterReview, written by Andrew Robinson and published June 25, 2012. He said the following,
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Knowing he could no longer do it alone, Alexander hired a team of talented individuals to assist him, including a former Boeing employee, a father-son craftsman team and a couple of master painters from a nearby ultra-high-end speaker company. Today finds Tekton Design on the road to success, with the company now able to make and ship two to three pairs of speakers per day without having to sacrifice any of Alexander's original ideals. Not bad for a company that is completely self-financed, sells direct to the consumer, has zero marketing budget and makes 100 percent of their product right here in the U.S., using American labor

So, at some point about one year ago, Eric hired 5 people and was said to be able to ship up to three pairs of speakers per day,

Now we read a new post by Andrew Robinson over at the Emotiva forum where he says Eric recently hired 5 people.

So which version of the truth is one to believe?
post #615 of 1749
After researching the Pendragons for well over 2 years, I finally ordered a pair from Eric. It took about 6 weeks to get them. During this time I discovered this thread. The one consistent aspect of buying from Eric is the wait time and inability to get him to commit to a hard deadline. I think the main reason is that he has been overwhelmed by all the attention, great reviews and amount of orders is because he is more of an artist than a business man. He does not charge your card until they are ready to ship, all this complaining and speculation is quite amusing. The most amusing thing is the naysayers who have not even heard the Pens, yet are able to criticize them. Chu Gai, I'm looking at you... biggrin.gif

I am using the Pendragons powered by a PrimaLuna Premium Int. I plan to ultimately power the Pens with a Luxman 505u, but until then, 35wpc is more than enough to make these speakers sing.

Anyway, I just wanted to post another glowing opinion on these outrageously great speakers. They are a killer deal by any measure. Worth the wait? Are you freakin' kidding me? I would have paid way more and waited much longer because these are about the best bargain for very high end sound I've ever heard. So this thread is quite amusing to those of us who already have these speakers. I plan on writing an in depth review in the near future. I'm still breaking in the Pens, but right out of the box they sounded great. They continue to amaze me...

Here is some photos of my Pens. I'm using a digital source to break them in (cdp + Schiit Gungir) but I also will be using a turntable (VPI Classic 3 w/ Parasound JC-3) as this will be my main 2 channel rig.







And here's a video of us firing up the Pendragons for the first time...



Anyway, I just wanted to add my "voice" to the dialogue because I think that there is some unduly negative and misleading information being spouted around here. Also let me say that I've been a fan/lurker around AVS for many years now. I look forward to (hopefully) making some interesting and worthwhile contributions around these parts in the future...

Peace.
post #616 of 1749
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Originally Posted by audiosavant View Post

After researching the Pendragons for well over 2 years, I finally ordered a pair from Eric. It took about 6 weeks to get them. During this time I discovered this thread. The one consistent aspect of buying from Eric is the wait time and inability to get him to commit to a hard deadline. I think the main reason is that he has been overwhelmed by all the attention, great reviews and amount of orders is because he is more of an artist than a business man. He does not charge your card until they are ready to ship, all this complaining and speculation is quite amusing. The most amusing thing is the naysayers who have not even heard the Pens, yet are able to criticize them. Chu Gai, I'm looking at you... biggrin.gif

I am using the Pendragons powered by a PrimaLuna Premium Int. I plan to ultimately power the Pens with a Luxman 505u, but until then, 35wpc is more than enough to make these speakers sing.

Anyway, I just wanted to post another glowing opinion on these outrageously great speakers. They are a killer deal by any measure. Worth the wait? Are you freakin' kidding me? I would have paid way more and waited much longer because these are about the best bargain for very high end sound I've ever heard. So this thread is quite amusing to those of us who already have these speakers. I plan on writing an in depth review in the near future. I'm still breaking in the Pens, but right out of the box they sounded great. They continue to amaze me...




Anyway, I just wanted to add my "voice" to the dialogue because I think that there is some unduly negative and misleading information being spouted around here. Also let me say that I've been a fan/lurker around AVS for many years now. I look forward to (hopefully) making some interesting and worthwhile contributions around these parts in the future...

Peace.

I've also pretty much read this entire thread and followed it. And while you say its quite amusing there are people who have also bought speakers from Eric and don't find it very amusing at all. I don't think anyone has said Tekton speakers didn't sound good. Just at how bad Eric seems to be at running a business and it makes people nervous because it sometimes shows the same patterns as other companies that had money issues.
post #617 of 1749
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

And while you say its quite amusing there are people who have also bought speakers from Eric and don't find it very amusing at all. I don't think anyone has said Tekton speakers didn't sound good. Just at how bad Eric seems to be at running a business and it makes people nervous because it sometimes shows the same patterns as other companies that had money issues.

Has anyone actually not received their speakers? Does he charge your cc before he sends you a tracking #? The answer I think is: no. If you want an easy, fast purchase, there's plenty of traditional options out there. If you want what is essentially a custom made speaker, then you have to wait. Again, he will not charge your credit card before he has finished your order.

The only 'legitimate" issue I've seen is people not getting their grills without hassle. I talked to Eric about this. He said that he "hates" grills. Maybe he's being stubborn about supplying them?

My point is: Has anyone been ripped off by him? What is the longest wait time anyone has had to suffer? He has a verifiable track record and I highly doubt that he is motivated just by $$$.

I ordered my Pendragons 3/15/13 and I got them 5/3/13. I was in weekly contact during this time. I don't think that is an unreasonable wait time. I guess some have waited a bit longer, but you aren't out any money and you can always cancel your order. He is not difficult to deal with. Like I said, I don't think he was prepared for the overwhelming response. Hopefully he can address these issues in the future.

What I find amusing is the wild speculation about his products and motives by those who have not actually ordered or own them. I can understand the frustration with long wait times though, but this is a custom made product. One that is a bargain. I anticipate a price increase in the future. I think his speakers are way under-priced for the actual value.

For those who are waiting for your speaker grills, here's an excerpt from a conversation with Eric when I called @ the 3 week mark to enquire about the status of my order:

Me: "So, how close are you to sending me my speakers?"
Eric: "Did you order them with grills?"
Me: "No."
Eric: "Good, I hate grills!"

I think he really wants to discourage people from getting speaker grills... smile.gif
post #618 of 1749
The misleading information that is being spouted, audiosavant, is that being said by Eric Alexander or better still, Andrew Robinson. AR appears to be the (un)official spokesperson for Tekton. AR has twice said that Eric hired 5 people to speed things along except on two widely different dates. AR is the one that said Eric is cranking out 2-3 pairs of speakers daily yet we see that daily is more than a bit optimistic.

BTW, how can you arrive at any critical assessment of performance in a room that is largely devoid of furnishings?
post #619 of 1749
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Originally Posted by jbrown15 View Post

And while you say its quite amusing there are people who have also bought speakers from Eric and don't find it very amusing at all. I don't think anyone has said Tekton speakers didn't sound good. Just at how bad Eric seems to be at running a business and it makes people nervous because it sometimes shows the same patterns as other companies that had money issues.

Has anyone actually not received their speakers? Does he charge your cc before he sends you a tracking #? The answer I think is: no. If you want an easy, fast purchase, there's plenty of traditional options out there. If you want what is essentially a custom made speaker, then you have to wait. Again, he will not charge your credit card before he has finished your order.

The only 'legitimate" issue I've seen is people not getting their grills without hassle. I talked to Eric about this. He said that he "hates" grills. Maybe he's being stubborn about supplying them?

My point is: Has anyone been ripped off by him? What is the longest wait time anyone has had to suffer? He has a verifiable track record and I highly doubt that he is motivated just by $$$.

I ordered my Pendragons 3/15/13 and I got them 5/3/13. I was in weekly contact during this time. I don't think that is an unreasonable wait time. I guess some have waited a bit longer, but you aren't out any money and you can always cancel your order. He is not difficult to deal with. Like I said, I don't think he was prepared for the overwhelming response. Hopefully he can address these issues in the future.

What I find amusing is the wild speculation about his products and motives by those who have not actually ordered or own them. I can understand the frustration with long wait times though, but this is a custom made product. One that is a bargain. I anticipate a price increase in the future. I think his speakers are way under-priced for the actual value.

For those who are waiting for your speaker grills, here's an excerpt from a conversation with Eric when I called @ the 3 week mark to enquire about the status of my order:

Me: "So, how close are you to sending me my speakers?"
Eric: "Did you order them with grills?"
Me: "No."
Eric: "Good, I hate grills!"

I think he really wants to discourage people from getting speaker grills... smile.gif

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Glad you like your speakers.
When I ordered my speakers in August of 2012 I had no such discussion about someone hating grills. If you look on his website right under the big pic of the red pendragon you will see ...Grills are an additional charge. Call for pricing. Well I did and he gave me a price and all was fine. I did tell him that I MUST have grills. He then manufactures my speakers. He calls me and I pay him via a credit card for the speakers AND the grills! He tells me he is shipping my order. After my card is charged I get a email with a tracking number and instructions, See below. I removed the names and tracking number.


(This email was dated in September 2012).

Your loudspeakers are shipping tomorrow. Your FedEx tracking number is: XXXXXXXX

It is important to unpack the Pendragon loudspeaker very carefully. Improper unpacking can result in a damaged tweeter and/or drive unit.



The shipping box is in two pieces - there is a taped seam all the way around the middle of the box. Note that the spikes are located in the top piece of foam in one of the loudspeakers.

1. Open the top of the box. However, don't remove the top pieces of packing foam.

2. Carefully cut along the tape line around the center (insure that you don't cut deeply).

3. Lift the top box up and off the loudspeaker while insuring the foam is held precisely in place.

4. Carefully remove the foam packaging to access the loudspeaker. Also, be extra careful to make sure that the packing foam directly touching the front baffle of the loudspeakers safely clears the drive units when removing the foam. If the foam directly contacts the tweeters, it can damage the domes.

The Pendragon is a heavy loudspeaker. Take no chances with lifting. It is safer to place a blanket or protective fabric on the floor/ground and lay the loudspeaker on its side to remover the lower portion of the packaging with the loudspeaker in the horizontal position.

Regarding the grilles: Always press the grilles onto the speakers carefully and insure the pins are lined up prior to pressing them in place. I will be shipping the grilles separately. I do them in batches and wanted to get you the loudspeakers without further delay.


I hope you enjoy the speakers!

Best regards,
XX

This email was the first I was aware of any grill issue and I thought well no big deal...well after 9 months and many a call and loads of emails it is a VERY big deal! I paid for the grills in good faith. Did not need speakers with out grills and especially did not need speakers with grill holes and no grill like I have now. You tell me based on your question above...."Has anyone been ripped off by him" How long before I am considered to be ripped off by not receiving my grills? A year? 2 years? If he has an issue with grills why not take the dang grill option off his website and I would have purchased from someone that can handle such a task ( delivering what someone pays for).
Sorry to be a buzz kill but I hate my speakers because of this BS! Worst experience of my life with a AV purchase. Never agin for me I assure you. I am so sick of ...he must have supply issues...he has hired (5) people, His personal issues... we should give him a break...Give me a break. This is unacceptable!
Edited by Soundman5000 - 5/28/13 at 2:38pm
post #620 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Chu Gai View Post

BTW, how can you arrive at any critical assessment of performance in a room that is largely devoid of furnishings?

Ahh... the illustrious and highly suspicious Chu Gai. Pleased to officially "meet you"! Well, most of the real "critical assessment" has mainly been done in my treated recording studio downstairs. The video was shot were I initially plopped them down (they are heavy and bulky so moving them is a chore and requires 2 people) when they arrived. It's my living room. It's fairly large room with a 15 foot ceiling. Acoustically it's pretty great already. I often record drums there. The reason it's a bit bare is because we are in the process of painting/remodeling. I've also had the Pendragons in our bedroom and in a secondary listening space as well. They are currently in my studio tracking room with music playing (I'm at about 100 hours) continuously. I'm breaking them in with a higher powered SS amp (a Perreaux I use to power a set of passives in the studio) because these monsters really like the grip and slam of a SS amp. I want the woofers to really get some excursion on them!

Anyway, back to the living room. I'm in Atlanta and I will be having Glenn from GIK Acoustics (they are located here in Atlanta) come out to do analysis of my room for installation of treatments. They make really great, affordable room treatments that I highly recommend. I plan to put some bass traps and only do minimal tuning to the room as it already sounds great with or without furniture.

Look, I was skeptical about these speakers too. I read all the same reviews, forum threads that everybody else has. The only reason I took a chance was because they were so damn cheap!

The reason I ordered them in a "standard" color was because I was ready to send them back if they sucked. I was kinda regretting that I didn't get them in a purple or blue until I saw how stunning they looked in the red. Pics really don't do them justice.

So yeah, I'm definitely in the "happy camper" category. I'm not defending Eric or his business acumen (or lack thereof), just the product.

He seems a bit eccentric. Maybe he's more of an artist than a businessman? I can relate to that!

The only negative thing that I encountered was, after I ordered, I saw that Glenn Beck video/audio that he had on his site. That was kinda creepy until I realized that it's probably a Mormon thing, as I'm pretty sure Eric is a Mormon. He's seen wearing a BYU shirt in some of those videos.

I was tempted to cancel my order! Truthfully, that Beck segment was actually the most clear, lucid, non-bat sh#t thing I've ever heard him say! Beck is a vile and hilariously loathsome idiot and I would not want to be associated with that clown. I really hope Eric's not a Beck fan, but if he is oh well.... To each his own. I'm a flaming Bill Hicks liberal myself, but I can tolerate other views.

It isn't a good idea to mix business and politics. You will inevitably alienate some of your customers.
post #621 of 1749
Just wanted to say I placed an order today for a pair of Pendragons along with the Pendragon center. Was quoted 4-6 weeks, hopefully that doesn't mean 8-12. Wanted to go with the red but just couldn't venture away from the standard black.
post #622 of 1749
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Originally Posted by thebean View Post

Just wanted to say I placed an order today for a pair of Pendragons along with the Pendragon center. Was quoted 4-6 weeks, hopefully that doesn't mean 8-12. Wanted to go with the red but just couldn't venture away from the standard black.

Well keep your fingers crossed and keep everyone posted as to how things go for you.
post #623 of 1749
And audisavant, I'm not attacking the product as you must realize. When I read stories from he same person almost a year apart that say essentially the same thing I wonder. Does Robinson not remember what he wrote back then? Skeptical,yes. I'm pained that users would seem to prefer stainding with Tekton ratherthan standing with their fellow audiophiles.

Thanks for the explanation about the room.
Edited by Chu Gai - 5/28/13 at 5:33pm
post #624 of 1749
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Originally Posted by zackie2 View Post

You have emotiva gear

Yes, a XPR-5
post #625 of 1749
Just chiming in for those considering Tekton.

Lores in White w/grills
Cheaper Cap Upgrade

Ordered 4/26/13

not shipped as of 5/29/13 (almost 5 weeks)

i ordered with full knowledge of the backlog and even though Eric said 4-5 when i talked to him, my expectations were 8-12....we shall see.
post #626 of 1749
I would like to hear a set of Pendragons with the cap upgrade but like everything else it's expensive to chase that last 1% improvement and so much is non discernible anyway it is hard to tell if they make any difference at all vs standard caps tekton uses. Anyone heard both want to chime in?
post #627 of 1749
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Originally Posted by Chaga Nation View Post

Just chiming in for those considering Tekton.

Lores in White w/grills
Cheaper Cap Upgrade

Ordered 4/26/13

not shipped as of 5/29/13 (almost 5 weeks)

i ordered with full knowledge of the backlog and even though Eric said 4-5 when i talked to him, my expectations were 8-12....we shall see.

I ordered 3 days after you did . . . Lores w/grills and wood veneer.

I did not know about the option for less expensive cap upgrades. What convinced you these were a good thing to have?
post #628 of 1749
Received my Seas Pens today and have been listening for couple hours and I am in awe!! It took about twelve weeks to get them and I have to say they are worth the wait! The sound is just incredible and the bass is pretty darn good too. I am very happy so far!!
post #629 of 1749
I ordered my Pens online without grills in October 2012. I was charged on my Credit Card as soon as I ordered. After a month, when I was already paying for something I had not received and I called Eric. Anyway, there were no grills holes in speakers and I will keep them that way. All my speakers are naked;) I don't know what would be so hard for the average DYIer to make magnetic grills though..... But I do see the frustration with being charged and never getting them. Also I could not see how the expensive caps would make a bang for the buck difference so I went standard all around. Eight months now and I am still blown away by the sound. It has made me want to get into higher res formats like HDTracks. Not sure how to do it yet though. Because of the long waits and less than stellar reviews on the center channel, I have been holding off to order one.
post #630 of 1749
THANK YOU for showing me your speakers !!!!. My 5 piece Red Pendragons (I did not get the subs, but will get later, already have 2 Def Techs) will be here Friday. I am so glad Eric talked me into the Red ones. I have waited 8 plus weeks for my order. I have had NO PROBLEM waiting. They are hand made. It is worth the wait. There is no other Loudspeaker at this price point that is even ballpark to this quality and performance. Do not let the wait put you off. The CLOWNS on this site that blabber about Eric having money problems or claiming he is less than truthful do not even own the speakers. Exception is a couple of people with no grills. Eric only bills for what he ships. I ordered grills and I know that I will wait for them like everyone else. I have not seen one person who HAVE THEM say anything but great reviews. Some of the clowns even seen to have quite a bit of background in the industry. I am fairly sure that they have never been in the same room as any of Eric's products. They just make a lot of claims of speaker specs being inflated or unconfirmed. Mojo Stereo review did quit a few tests. But hey, I am sure that Samsung and Pioneer's Specs are all "right on the money". There is no agency overseeing these claims. It is all BS. What is not BS is all the happy Tekton speaker owners. All the Tekton speaker reviews from reviewers that do not get ANY advertising money from Eric. I feel that there are a few people on this " discussion form" who are from the speaker industry who have never had the vision or drive to create anything worth marketing. Maybe out of frustration or jealousy they attack a person who took a lot of risks and put his ass on the line while creating some affordable and very fine loudspeakers. I have heard that Tekton is a "LLC" company. SO WHAT! He does no bill anything until it has a tracking number and is on the way. It has become an issue that Andrew Robinson promotes his products. I you do not believe Andrew Robinson then check out ALL the other reviews. Tekton is a small company that with all the great reviews was flooded with orders. THAT IS A GOOD THING. But he can only hire and train so fast. HE himself builds the speakers. I myself would be be weary of a hand made speaker that could be written up , built and shipped in two weeks. Friday my speakers will be here and I will share with all how they sound and after the "break in"period how much better they sound. I did a lot of "homework" on Eric and Tekton before placing my order. I have found that Eric is a very honest person. His company is in very good financial shape. If Eric has one flaw it is he whats to "make everyone happy". In business that is a goal, never a reality. I will end with this, spending thousands of dollars on line with some one I have never met in person or even seen or heard the product that I am buying, I am confident that I could not have found a better Company to do business with. I will be in sonic bliss!
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