NE Spring Speaker Shootout GTG - Date Poll and Discussion - Page 8

Awesome, well done Rilla. Your system was just incredibly high performance at the sub GTG and you've significantly upgraded the front three and subs. Well done sir.

For those hoping to get out of the speaker GTG without a new wish list from Rilla's place, that's not going to happen.

Enjoy!

EDIT: oops wrong gorilla thread, referring to the new speakers but it can stay here.

Have you messed with toe-in yet? I have finally settled on the toe in, and for the first time I'm toeing in more than just pointing the main speakers directly at me. In other words, if I were sitting 2-3 feet closer to the front wall the speakers would be pointing right at me.

Doing this gives a wider sweet spot, like it's supposed to, but I also feel that it anchors the singers voice to the middle just a touch better too. I swear my center channel is on and standing upright when I'm playing 2 channel music. It was like that already without toeing in more, but like I said it's just a little better now.

Oh, also, do you find you prefer some music with the mains only no subs? Probably not techno bassy stuff, but what about rock etc.? I bet those 15's pound and sound great!!

That's amazing Gorilla! Well done.

Dude!! Now that is "no bulls*it"!!

Wow, 96 db sensitivity and output to below 20hz... incredible combination. No wonder music sounds great with no subs.

Now, Jonathan has mentioned a number of times how great your room is with gain down low but so what - even if it didn't those speakers obviously go very low. Man, I remember when I really got into surfing through forums in the late 90's early 00's. Back then SVS was all the rage because they along with HSU were the first affordable subs that dipped into the 20 hz range without costing a ton of money. Now you have done it with a pair of friggin speakers at 500 a piece, nice!

can we see a full range graph yet?

Figured since I now own a professional microphone and audio interface I would do a capture in my terribly shaped room with no sound treatment or EQ.....
This is at -15db on the reciever.



I guess I should run Audyssey one of these days.....

Oh and for those curious, here is mains+sub @-25db on the receiver. (No EQ) 0hz-20khz (with that awesome pumping noise the ULS makes.... )

Edited by rush2049 - 1/28/13 at 6:53pm

The setup I run doesn't use a crossover. I'm a bit of a bass head and run the sub and krk's full range that way I get the db boost in the low end. The krk's are crossed at 350hz and 3.5 kHz.

I was home for the weekend and was able to run those tests. But I'll be in north Carolina for the next three weeks or so.

yes, the subs are quite hot there. Also, you might be running into noise floor issues in spots measuring that low. Where in NC are you going to be?

My noise floor was only 13dB. I am using an MXL v69 Mogami Edition mic to measure through a MOTO Microbook II. I am fairly sure there are no false readings in those graphs.

Wendell, NC -- Which I found out last time I was down here is the home of Lizard Lick Towing, that reality tv show from truTV.....
Edited by rush2049 - 1/29/13 at 7:07am

Nice, right outside of Raleigh. That is a really low noise floor, very quiet room Do you prefer that response un eq'd? +/- approximately 40dB is a pretty big margin in your mains.

I like having a large bumb on the low end, but I am disappointed my room has so many nulls throughout the high end. I will definitely put some EQ on that next time I am home.

I didn't do a graph of it, but when I put a 40hz crossover on and lower the db on the sub to gain match the mains it is about even across (still have those peaks in the highs though).

The reason my noise floor is so low is because every wall, but the one the speakers are against is brick with sheetrock. Very solid, the ceiling also is supported by an Ibeam...... The loudest thing is my desktop computer's fans, but I turn everything up so loud you never hear them.

What a coincidence; I had just suggested that very thing to him earlier today.

Someone will have to hide the remote now...

I would love Jeff to peel the paint off the walls with those things, he can go as hard as he wants with some subs...Speakers from what I've heard is a different story, I might bring earplugs+headphones for that demo! haha

Oh no. Not again .

No worries. Jeff is fearless, no question about it, but this GTG is a bit different then the one in October. There will be a few sessions where we cut them loose, but that won't be the norm this time. Having said that... earplugs would be a good idea for those times when we try and blow out the light bulbs again.

Not to worry Mike. The critical listening area will be across the street on the neighbors lawn.

This will be 100x better than heading to any HT or stereo store for a demo.

Do you mean to say a guy that has four subwoofers with a total of eight 18" drivers being powered by a 14k watt amp could be a bit cavalier with the volume? That a person who has mains with a horn and 15" 'midrange' might have a tendency to play things at an elevated level? I just don't see it, quite frankly.

+1... If there is any paint left from Rilla's octo HO's.


Looking forward to getting crazy with it, but in all honesty I'm looking forward moreso to the critical listening...at 130db.


Prob for the best...lol

Otherwise I'd suggest whipping up a Liability Waiver, mandatory for all in attendance.