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post #61 of 412
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Originally Posted by greenland View Post

An interesting rumor worth watching to see if it turns out to be factual, especially the part which would allow cable subscribers to pay only for the channels they wish to watch.
http://www.inquisitr.com/462717/rumor-intel-to-debut-cable-tv-service-at-ces-2013/
"[Rumor] Intel To Debut Cable TV Service At CES 2013"
"According to rumors the new Intel cable TV offering will come equipped with an Intel created cable TV box that will provide facial recognition software. By identifying viewers in the room via facial recognition the company hopes to better personalize the TV viewing experience on a user by user basis.
Another rumor suggests that the Intel created set top box will feature a “one month” option that allows viewers to recall any TV show they missed over the last month.
In what could be the biggest win for Intel, the company may allow for “pay per channel” or less bulkier packages which will save customers money and finally allow them to only subscribe to the TV channels they want to watch."

I started a thread about this 2 days ago:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1448242/intel-powered-set-top-box-coming-soon

Thoughts?
Edited by hoozthatat - 12/31/12 at 3:36pm
post #62 of 412
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Originally Posted by greenland View Post

An interesting rumor worth watching to see if it turns out to be factual, especially the part which would allow cable subscribers to pay only for the channels they wish to watch.

It's a fascinating rumor, but there is no going to be inexpensive, a la carte cable from Intel or anyone.

I hope Intel rolls out something tough.
post #63 of 412
Yeah, this could be a game changer from Intel, but all who tried, all failed. Good luck Intel. I'm keeping my eye on Nimble and Aereo too. Something is happening.
post #64 of 412
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Originally Posted by vtms View Post

Yeah, this could be a game changer from Intel, but all who tried, all failed. Good luck Intel. I'm keeping my eye on Nimble and Aereo too. Something is happening.

IMO, the only shot Apple has at being successful in the FP/TV biz, is if they ink a legitimate option with content providers and etc, that makes cable cutting/pay-per-channel an avenue worth venturing down. So I wouldn't count Apple out either. They have a lot of money in the bank for something like this should they go that route.
post #65 of 412
I'm really curious about Westinghouse's 4K sets that they're debuting at CES...I still won't be able to afford them, no doubt, but I definitely want to know how they shake out compared to the other incoming 4K sets.
post #66 of 412
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Originally Posted by Bill C. View Post

I'm really curious about Westinghouse's 4K sets that they're debuting at CES...I still won't be able to afford them, no doubt, but I definitely want to know how they shake out compared to the other incoming 4K sets.

Curiously enough Westinghouse has the highest repair/failure rate of any FP brand today @ 7%. And I say brand because they don't make their own FP's.
post #67 of 412
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

Curiously enough Westinghouse has the highest repair/failure rate of any FP brand today @ 7%. And I say brand because they don't make their own FP's.

Who makes their panels? It is a US company, apparently.

What are the repair/failure rates of the other makers?

Happy New Year!
post #68 of 412
I know China's TCL corporation makes Westinghouse's 110" 4K display. Probably the smaller sizes as well. Is there even a US manufacture of LCD display left? I know Element is assembled in Detroit, using Chinese parts.
post #69 of 412
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Originally Posted by sytech View Post

I know China's TCL corporation makes Westinghouse's 110" 4K display. Probably the smaller sizes as well. Is there even a US manufacture of LCD display left? I know Element is assembled in Detroit, using Chinese parts.

There is no US manufacturer. Like you said some Element FP's are assembled in Detroit but they're built from Chinese parts from the Northern-Chinese manufacturer TongFang.
post #70 of 412
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Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

Who makes their panels? It is a US company, apparently.
What are the repair/failure rates of the other makers?
Happy New Year!

Here's the link. Cheers.

http://hdguru.com/an-hdtv-by-another-name/5657/
post #71 of 412
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

Here's the link. Cheers.
http://hdguru.com/an-hdtv-by-another-name/5657/

Is there a mention of Westinghouse on the page you linked me to? I couldn't find it.confused.gif
post #72 of 412
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Originally Posted by taichi4 View Post

Is there a mention of Westinghouse on the page you linked me to? I couldn't find it.confused.gif

Here's the link. Cheers. biggrin.gif. And it's actually 8% eek.gif

http://hdguru.com/name-brands-in-name-only/3357/
post #73 of 412
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

Here's the link. Cheers.
http://hdguru.com/an-hdtv-by-another-name/5657/
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

Here's the link. Cheers. biggrin.gif. And it's actually 8% eek.gif
http://hdguru.com/name-brands-in-name-only/3357/

I hadn't heard of JVC selling off their TV line, but I guess it make sense, I haven't seen anything new or exciting out of JVC in a while. They used to make some great TVs. In fact, I still have a JVC D-Series CRT that I use as a bedroom TV. The thing is well over 10 years old (I don't remember exactly when it was built - a friend of mine bought it new back in the late 90s and I bought it from him eight or nine years ago) and the picture is still great.
post #74 of 412
Will there physically be any plasmas at CES 2013?
post #75 of 412
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Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

Will there physically be any plasmas at CES 2013?

Based off of what we've seen the past couple years, no. But regardless, I'm exited about the ST, GT and VT70's. More so than I am about all-but-dead-GoogleTV, and mediocre giant LCD category.
post #76 of 412
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Originally Posted by Artwood View Post

Will there physically be any plasmas at CES 2013?

I would think Panasonic would almost certainly have the V60 there. Even though it is mostly a carry over of the V50 model. They really don't have much else to show. Samsung might even have one or two tucked away in a dark corner.
post #77 of 412
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

Based off of what we've seen the past couple years, no. But regardless, I'm exited about the ST, GT and VT70's. More so than I am about all-but-dead-GoogleTV, and mediocre giant LCD category.

You clearly don't go to CES, then.

Samsung, Panasonic and even LG exhibit plasmas annually at CES.
post #78 of 412
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

You clearly don't go to CES, then.
Samsung, Panasonic and even LG exhibit plasmas annually at CES.

What do you except on the PDP front from LG, Samsung and Panasonic?
I misread the post. My appologies.
Edited by hoozthatat - 1/3/13 at 7:01pm
post #79 of 412
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What do you except on the PDP front from LG, Samsung and Panasonic?

From what I've read from the Panasonic insider, AVJunkie, on another forum, there will be a bigger difference in the models, better pq, a focusing on networking and a new flagship series. There are also hints about different sizes this year. Samsung had that press release about their revolutionary new tv, but I have no idea what kind of TV it will be. It seems that they will be bringing their Evolution thingy.
Edited by hogues - 1/3/13 at 5:16pm
post #80 of 412
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

From what I've read from the Panasonic insider, AVJunkie, on another forum, there will be a bigger difference in the models, better pq, a focusing on networking and a new flagship series. There are also hints about different sizes this year. Samsung had that press release about their revolutionary new tv, but I have no idea what kind of TV it will be. It seems that they will be bringing their Evolution thingy.

Can't wait to see the new offerings from Panasonic.
I also read that article about the "revolutionary" Samsung TV and saw that little teaser video. Interested to see what it'll be.
post #81 of 412
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

What do you except on the PDP front from LG, Samsung and Panasonic?
I misread the post. My appologies.

No apology needed.

As to what I expect, mostly marginal changes, nothing exceptionally exciting. But that's pretty much the way it is every year.

To me, last year was a solid jump from the year before, so all the more reason to expect a smaller jump this year.
post #82 of 412
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

No apology needed.
As to what I expect, mostly marginal changes, nothing exceptionally exciting. But that's pretty much the way it is every year.
To me, last year was a solid jump from the year before, so all the more reason to expect a smaller jump this year.

I assume you'll be attending?
post #83 of 412
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Originally Posted by hoozthatat View Post

I assume you'll be attending?

I go nearly every year, yes.
post #84 of 412
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

I go nearly every year, yes.

Very nice, I'm jealous. Do you do updates or post impressions (or anything like that)? In any event, enjoy!
post #85 of 412
CES 2013: LG says OLED TV is on its way

Article is here. The bolding was added by me.


LG's 55-inch OLED TV will likely sell for $10,000 this year

As we prepare for the 2013 Consumer Electronics Show next week, many of us have wondered whether the much-anticipated debut of OLED (organic light-emitting diode) TVs will actually happen this year, as rumors of manufacturing difficulties abound. LG Electronics is apparently answering that question with its announcement that it will start taking pre-orders—but only in South Korea—for its 55-inch OLED set (model 55EM9700), beginning this month.

The company will presumably have more to say about its plans—and the exact price—for this TV here in the U.S. during its press conference next week at CES. But LG says that customers in South Korea can expect to receive their sets as early as next month, after paying the equivalent of $10,000.

As we've written, OLED TVs combine some of the best attributes of LCD (thinness, light weight) and plasma (unlimited viewing angle, ultra-high contrast ratios, and no need for a separate backlight) TVs. LG's 55-inch set will weigh only 22 pounds, and it's just 0.16 inches thin. Given its flagship status, we expect the TV to be 3D-capable, and include LG's smart TV platform with gesture and voice control via its Magic Remote.

Unlike the OLED TV shown by Samsung at last year's CES, which uses three-color RGB OLED pixel technology, LG's TV uses what's called white OLED technology, which includes a white sub-pixel (along with RGB), plus a color filter (or color refiner) to produce color. Each technology has its advantages, and we're hoping to learn more about OLED at CES.

We also expect to hear more about OLED TV plans from other manufacturers during the show, although we expect OLED TVs to be in fairly short supply in 2013, primarily due to manufacturing issues as companies try and make larger-sized sets.

Visit our CES 2013 page at ConsumerReports.org for all our coverage.

—James K. Willcox
post #86 of 412
It's this they same source that said we would have 55" OLED sets in time for the 2012 Olympics?
post #87 of 412
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Originally Posted by sytech View Post

It's this they same source that said we would have 55" OLED sets in time for the 2012 Olympics?

+1
post #88 of 412
Has the continued month after month and year after year delay in OLED TVs made us AVSers a bit cynical???? biggrin.gif

Seriously, though, at the requets of the OP, let's keep this thread related to CES-related news and articles and try to minimize the commentary.
Edited by Rich Peterson - 1/4/13 at 10:18am
post #89 of 412
So, we're now at 5 re-posts of the LG news, each thread that can possibly discuss it has done so. What I expect is that at CES they will promise absolutely nothing about delivering it in the U.S. nor about what they sell it for. That's their MO and there is no real reason it should change here.

One thing to look for is, "pricing lower than Korea" because, well, we heard $8000 last year (and many of you were sure it would be much, much less than that!) and now the Korea launch price is clearly $10,000.

I'm not hearing anything about larger sizes even being hinted at, but of course I'll ask both LG and Samsung.

Also, Samsung is promising >something< important in TV, although the vagueness is overwhelming and the buzz is very very light.

Hogues, I always do some posting from there (and often after).

Typically, I learn some interesting info that escapes a lot of the mainstream coverage, post it here at AVS, get told I am wrong for months, get proved right and the cycle repeats. smile.gif
post #90 of 412
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Hogues, I always do some posting from there (and often after).
Typically, I learn some interesting info that escapes a lot of the mainstream coverage, post it here at AVS, get told I am wrong for months, get proved right and the cycle repeats. smile.gif

Great, thanks Rogo. I look forward to reading your thoughts on CES. I'm buying a new plasma in March, so I'm very interested in what Panasonic has to say.
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