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post #61 of 371
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Originally Posted by GregLee View Post

I use the following for everything: "auto" (selected with [receiver] button "1" on the remote), "Neo:X CINEMA" (button "2"), "FH" (button "7"). That should give 9 channel sound using the front heights for all inputs, stereo, DD5.1, or whatever. (Your remark about the sound changing on TV when you hit a commercial or something in 2.0 sound suggests you are not in "auto" mode.)


Thanks for the info. I think the best surround mode for my tv setup is the Optimum Surround. I tried the Auto Surround and there's still a lot of bad echo from the front speakers on some tv commercials and shows. Not sure if my remote is different than yours, but my button 7 is for turning on/off the speakers. Not sure what FH (button 7) is in your post. And when I select Optimum Surround (button 1), then button 2 doesn't give me the Neo option.
post #62 of 371
if you have a smart phone, download the remote app for it. its much more intuitive than the crappy remote. worst remote ever.
post #63 of 371
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Originally Posted by diamondmjs View Post

Thanks for the info. I think the best surround mode for my tv setup is the Optimum Surround. I tried the Auto Surround and there's still a lot of bad echo from the front speakers on some tv commercials and shows. Not sure if my remote is different than yours, but my button 7 is for turning on/off the speakers. Not sure what FH (button 7) is in your post. And when I select Optimum Surround (button 1), then button 2 doesn't give me the Neo option.
Be careful about Optimum Surround. I liked it, too, but I found that it prevents me using all 9 speakers. It's a bug. Using Neo:X with all 11 speakers connected, I cannot get any sound from the FW speakers when I use Optimum Surround. (I can get sound from FW using the Wide Surround Movie mode, but that uses only 7 speakers.)

There may be some differences of detail among the models SC-65, SC-1527-K, SC-1522-K. I have the last, and my button #7 is called "Speaker" and chooses among 4 settings: FH/FW, FH, FW, Off. "Off" turns all speakers off.
post #64 of 371
Will the 1522-k run Fw & FH in 9.2?
post #65 of 371
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Originally Posted by Jeff in Canada View Post

Will the 1522-k run Fw & FH in 9.2?
With all 11 speakers connected and enabled, I believe you cannot get FW and FH at once. However, you can get 9 speakers with FH in Dolby IIz mode, and 9 speakers with either FH and FW (not both) in Neo:X mode. I haven't yet experimented with disabling the surround backs to see if maybe you can get 9 speakers with both FH and FW that way.
post #66 of 371
The question I am asking is if you can have FW & FH at the same time. I do realize that 9.2 means 9 speakers. So to be overly clear. FL, FR, C, SR, SL plus the FWL, FWR and FWL and FWR
post #67 of 371
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Originally Posted by Jeff in Canada View Post

The question I am asking is if you can have FW & FH at the same time.
I said "With all 11 speakers connected and enabled, I believe you cannot get FW and FH at once." That's about as clear as I can be. Well, I could just say "No", but I have to give the qualification that I have not experimented with fewer than 11 speakers enabled. If fewer than 11 speakers are connected in your system, then my answer is: "I don't know."
post #68 of 371
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Originally Posted by GregLee View Post

With all 11 speakers connected and enabled, I believe you cannot get FW and FH at once. However, you can get 9 speakers with FH in Dolby IIz mode, and 9 speakers with either FH and FW (not both) in Neo:X mode. I haven't yet experimented with disabling the surround backs to see if maybe you can get 9 speakers with both FH and FW that way.

I am not trying to give you a hard time about it, but you really didn't answer my question the first time. No would have worked

Stating that you believe you can not followed a statement that you really are not sure because you have not tried a set up yet is really not answering me

No you definitely can not or yes you definitely can is what I am asking. I do see from the manual that it seems not, but it is unclear whether you could if the rear surrounds are not there.

I appreciate that you were trying to help and do me a favour, but again, I am looking for some who knows with certainty
post #69 of 371
Hello all!

I am anxiously awaiting arrival of my sc-65 via the best buy deal. Preparing for its set-up, I have a couple questions. I am running all paradigm speakers, monitor7v3 LF & RF, on a 5.1 system. My front wall is 14' wide with the fronts at the outer edge. Would picking up a couple speakers for front highs pay a good benefit? Also have been reading about bi-amping the fronts and many say there is little benefit. Should I bi-amp the fronts, especially if I stay with the 5.1 configuration?

Thanks for any and all feedback and I am sure I will have other questions once I get set up.
post #70 of 371
Is the Pioneer SC-1522-K a upgrade to my Denon AVR3312CI? None of the Costco around me have any in stock for $599 but my aunt who lives about 1 hour away said hers has 13 in stock.
post #71 of 371
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Originally Posted by OlderNDirt View Post

Would picking up a couple speakers for front highs pay a good benefit?
Yes, provided you don't pay too much for the two extra speakers. I don't think quality is that important for front highs.
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Should I bi-amp the fronts, ...
No. I haven't tried it, but I have an opinion, anyway.
post #72 of 371
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Originally Posted by OlderNDirt View Post

Hello all!

I am anxiously awaiting arrival of my sc-65 via the best buy deal. Preparing for its set-up, I have a couple questions. I am running all paradigm speakers, monitor7v3 LF & RF, on a 5.1 system. My front wall is 14' wide with the fronts at the outer edge. Would picking up a couple speakers for front highs pay a good benefit? Also have been reading about bi-amping the fronts and many say there is little benefit. Should I bi-amp the fronts, especially if I stay with the 5.1 configuration?
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Thanks for any and all feedback and I am sure I will have other questions once I get set up.[/quoteI biamp with the 65, I do notice my speakers are more dynamic when being biamped, I may be wrong on this but I beleive you can only biamp with a 5 speaker setup, ps, I went from seperates to the 65 and wish I had done it sooner, good choice and good luck.
post #73 of 371
Yeah it's an upgrade 9.2 vs. 7.2 receiver. The Pioneer's MSRP is $1600 which is a lot higher than the 3312's. One has Audyssey the other MCACC if that matters to you as well.
post #74 of 371
Yippee! SC-65 now in my possesion! But ethernet cables & switch not here yet. Any negatives to setting it up now and connecting to network later?
post #75 of 371
Question regarding audio output on the SC-65 that I can't seem to find addressed in the manual: I'm running a 5.1 setup with my mains bi-amped. All of my A/V components are connected with HDMI (with the exception of my TV, which I have connected to an optical input of the receiver if I ever need to watch OTA TV from my antenna so I can hear 5.1). If I were to connect a set of 5.1 gaming headphones that require an optical cable (gunshots and explosions in video games scare my dog), could I use the optical output from the SC-65 to the headphones and hear the full headphone 5.1? In other words, given that most of the equipment is connected with HDMI, would the receiver put out a 5.1 signal through its optical output?
post #76 of 371
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Originally Posted by OlderNDirt View Post

Yippee! SC-65 now in my possesion! But ethernet cables & switch not here yet. Any negatives to setting it up now and connecting to network later?

I don't think so. You should do the firmware update first thing, but the most recent version must be downloaded from the web site anyway, it isn't online yet for some reason.

I have spent hours fiddling with mine this week-- bass is configured properly, I learned which surround modes I like, etc... Very nice unit. It's my first Pioneer and I am very pleased.
post #77 of 371
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Originally Posted by mattwier View Post

Question regarding audio output on the SC-65 that I can't seem to find addressed in the manual: I'm running a 5.1 setup with my mains bi-amped. All of my A/V components are connected with HDMI (with the exception of my TV, which I have connected to an optical input of the receiver if I ever need to watch OTA TV from my antenna so I can hear 5.1). If I were to connect a set of 5.1 gaming headphones that require an optical cable (gunshots and explosions in video games scare my dog), could I use the optical output from the SC-65 to the headphones and hear the full headphone 5.1? In other words, given that most of the equipment is connected with HDMI, would the receiver put out a 5.1 signal through its optical output?

Unless someone knows something I don't (and I'd really like to be wrong here), there isn't any way to send a digital input signal via the back-panel optical output. This includes the HDMI inputs. The manual mentions something to the same effect. I wanted to use it as a secondary output to a sound system in another room, but couldn't get it to work.

I'm still learning this beast though, only had it for 2 days now.

My current problem is finding a way to use the internet radio or pandora via speakers while outputting one of my hdmi connections to the screen. Anyone know?

Regards
post #78 of 371
It won't send HDMI audio through the digital out but only other digital coax or optical inputs. Basically, you should just connect your gaming headphone directly to the console.
post #79 of 371
I just got this receiver today via the costco deal. Got it all setup, love the auto sound setup feature. So far I have had an issue with HDMI video, it takes a long time to switch sources? Not sure if its the display or the receiver, both are new. Also had an issue where it stopped outputting video via HDMI. I had to shut everything down, then it seemed to work. Again not sure which unit is having the problem but figured I would check to see if anyone else had any HDMI switching issues?
post #80 of 371
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Originally Posted by marjen View Post

I just got this receiver today via the costco deal. Got it all setup, love the auto sound setup feature. So far I have had an issue with HDMI video, it takes a long time to switch sources? Not sure if its the display or the receiver, both are new. Also had an issue where it stopped outputting video via HDMI. I had to shut everything down, then it seemed to work. Again not sure which unit is having the problem but figured I would check to see if anyone else had any HDMI switching issues?


I have not had the output problem that you mentioned. However, I have noticed it does take an abnormally long time to switch sources.
post #81 of 371
I am having an issue where its defaulting to stereo for most sources and i dont know why? I have an xbox, ps3 and directv all connected via HDMI, but they all seem to be defaulting to stereo. Once I saw the PS3 in PCM, but not sure how or why. Xbox and I cant seem to get PCM either. Am I missing something?
post #82 of 371
^^^
Try pressing the Standard button on your remote. This button will cycle through the various audio settings. Try Auto Surround.

Also, I suggest going back through the owner's manual.
post #83 of 371
I got a SC-1522-K the other day and I am very impressed with the sound. While I was setting it up I noticed a slight buzzing coming from the top left front of the receiver. It seems to be coming from the transformer which is located in the top left front corner of the receiver. There is also a fan that I can hear that turns on several seconds after the power button is pushed but the buzzing starts immediately after the power button is pushed and seems to get slightly louder when the fan starts which could just be an acoustical illusion. The buzzing is very light and is only barely noticeable when you are 1 of 2 feet from the receiver and the room is silent. It doesn't bother me or disturb the listening environment but I have read through everything I can find and it seems that if there is any noise at all coming from the transformer it could be a sign of a problem or a potential problem in the future. I was just wondering if anyone else with this unit or an SC-65 has noticed any transformer buzz of any level coming from the receiver itself. I can exchange it if I need to but I don't want to have to do that if the buzz is considered a normal, commonly occurring condition with this line of receivers.

Thanks in advance.
post #84 of 371
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Try pressing the Standard button on your remote. This button will cycle through the various audio settings. Try Auto Surround.

Also, I suggest going back through the owner's manual.

I have tried this and other suggestions from the owners manual, but it is only detecting stereo.
post #85 of 371
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Originally Posted by marjen View Post

I have tried this and other suggestions from the owners manual, but it is only detecting stereo.

Press the Receiver button first. Next, try the Auto/ALC/Direct button. That's the one that should get you to Auto Surround. If your sources are set correctly, you should get surround sound. Check the front display to see what channels are being input from each source. This will indicate whether the source is sending stereo or not.
post #86 of 371
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Originally Posted by dvdmann View Post

I got a SC-1522-K the other day and I am very impressed with the sound. While I was setting it up I noticed a slight buzzing coming from the top left front of the receiver. It seems to be coming from the transformer which is located in the top left front corner of the receiver. There is also a fan that I can hear that turns on several seconds after the power button is pushed but the buzzing starts immediately after the power button is pushed and seems to get slightly louder when the fan starts which could just be an acoustical illusion. The buzzing is very light and is only barely noticeable when you are 1 of 2 feet from the receiver and the room is silent. It doesn't bother me or disturb the listening environment but I have read through everything I can find and it seems that if there is any noise at all coming from the transformer it could be a sign of a problem or a potential problem in the future. I was just wondering if anyone else with this unit or an SC-65 has noticed any transformer buzz of any level coming from the receiver itself. I can exchange it if I need to but I don't want to have to do that if the buzz is considered a normal, commonly occurring condition with this line of receivers.

Thanks in advance.

No buzzing here. I'd say it's not normal. Also, I'm not sure what else you're hearing because I don't hear any fan either. I have the 1522 and it's dead silent.

Edit: The 65 and 1522 both have power supply fans. However, as mentioned, mine is dead silent. No buzzing or fan noise.
Edited by dharel - 4/1/13 at 6:15pm
post #87 of 371
Does anyone know how to enable the optical out signal from the receiver?

Thanks
post #88 of 371
Definately something up with my signal. I again had a situation where I lost HDMI video. I could still hear sound through the speakers, but it said no signal detected on the video side. I restarted the receiver then I got a signal. I have a brand new redmere cable from monoprice that I installed today, hope thats not the issue. I also have yet to update the pioneers firmware, might try that tomorrow. I also ordered new HDMI cables for my sources.

I have to say the sound from this is amazing. I had a pioner 1018AH and this blows it away. One thing I did not like however was when I ran auto setup it set all my fronts to large so I was getting like no base, I thought the SW was broken. I changed back to small and all is well again. Is there a way to run that but force small for speakers?
post #89 of 371
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Originally Posted by marjen View Post

One thing I did not like however was when I ran auto setup it set all my fronts to large so I was getting like no base, I thought the SW was broken. I changed back to small and all is well again. Is there a way to run that but force small for speakers?
Yes, there is. Set the speakers the way you want them (using System Setup > Manual SP Setup). Then in the menu, go to Advanced MCACC, then Auto MCACC, then on the top line click the right arrow to change ALL to Keep SP System. Then go down to START and do it.
post #90 of 371
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Originally Posted by dharel View Post

No buzzing here. I'd say it's not normal. Also, I'm not sure what else you're hearing because I don't hear any fan either. I have the 1522 and it's dead silent.

Edit: The 65 and 1522 both have power supply fans. However, as mentioned, mine is dead silent. No buzzing or fan noise.


I appreciate you taking the time to check it out. I will exchange my unit.

Thanks again.
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