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post #211 of 268
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Originally Posted by matthewa View Post

I just got one too, you can run it via 1 HDMI going to your amp then from amp to TV, the manual suggests using the amp hdmi port
sweet!
post #212 of 268

Need help to clear this up !

I don't know which way I should go as far as wiring my Dennon DBT3313 Blu-Ray. With 2 HDMI outs on back of the player, is it best to separate the HDMI cables, one for audio to my ONKYO TX-NR929 receiver, and one for video to my U65F7100 Smart LED TV, or just the one HDMI from my Blu-Ray player to the Blu-Ray jack on the back of my Onkyo ????

Joe
post #213 of 268
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Originally Posted by joecash View Post

I don't know which way I should go as far as wiring my Dennon DBT3313 Blu-Ray. With 2 HDMI outs on back of the player, is it best to separate the HDMI cables, one for audio to my ONKYO TX-NR929 receiver, and one for video to my U65F7100 Smart LED TV, or just the one HDMI from my Blu-Ray player to the Blu-Ray jack on the back of my Onkyo ????

Joe
You only need to run the one HDMI cable from the player to the receiver and then out from the receiver to the TV. The second HDMI is technically designed to send audio to a non 3D receiver. You can run them separately, but you won't notice a difference.

S~
post #214 of 268
Thanks for clearing that up for me !!
post #215 of 268
i'm taking delivery to today of a 4520 and 3313 pair. Could not pass up the deal for the two. Have a 5803A and 3800BDCI presently along with a cheap 3D player as I had a hard time justifying a big expenditure for new system until this deal came along.

I have been reading through this thread as well as the 4520 thread in order to get the advice of fellow Denon enthusiasts. I also scanned through the user manuals which brings me to this question. It looks like a Denon Link and one HDMI connection between the AVR and 3313 is needed for audio and video handshake. If using both Denon components why are some people having 2 HDMI connections between the 2 components plus using the Denon link? Presently in the data overload mode after all the reading so I probably missed a reference to this somewhere. Thanks for any feedback and am excited to be prepping for tearing down the old system and building the new. Only want to do it once though!
post #216 of 268

^ Hi John, welcome.  Nice purchase. 

 

See the posts just above on the HDMI issue. If for some reason (like your AVR does not pass 3d or 4K)  you want to run HDMI direct to the display from the player you can do so.  There is no point to running a second HDMI to the AVR.

post #217 of 268
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Originally Posted by John-Burgess View Post

i'm taking delivery to today of a 4520 and 3313 pair. Could not pass up the deal for the two. Have a 5803A and 3800BDCI presently along with a cheap 3D player as I had a hard time justifying a big expenditure for new system until this deal came along.

I have been reading through this thread as well as the 4520 thread in order to get the advice of fellow Denon enthusiasts. I also scanned through the user manuals which brings me to this question. It looks like a Denon Link and one HDMI connection between the AVR and 3313 is needed for audio and video handshake. If using both Denon components why are some people having 2 HDMI connections between the 2 components plus using the Denon link? Presently in the data overload mode after all the reading so I probably missed a reference to this somewhere. Thanks for any feedback and am excited to be prepping for tearing down the old system and building the new. Only want to do it once though!

John
I have had the combination for a year and use the following configuration:

Denon Link connected

One HDMI connection is used for Music only and connected to one of the HDMI inputs. Stereo mode only ( plus Audyssey).
Second HDMI connection is used for Blu-Ray/DVD -Home Theatre use and connected to another HDMI input ( 7.2 Audyssey).

Advantages : If using only one input to 4520, would have to keep switching the sound mode from Stereo to Dolby/DTS when siwtching from music to movies.
Using 2 both of the 3313 HDMI outputs and separate 4520 inputs, able to keep the sound settings independant and no switching.

Works great for me, and I been really impressed by the combination, very happy user.

Hope this helps
post #218 of 268

^Interesting. 

 

I've had several Denon AVRs and AFAIK the SOP on Denon AVRs is that for each input the AVR senses the type of signal and applies the last sound mode you used for that type of signal, so your 2 ch material would play in Stereo every time.  MC would play in a surround mode every time.  This is the "Denon personal memory plus" feature.

 

That's how it works on my AVR A100, connected to my DBP A100 via HDMI and the legacy Cat5/DL4th cable.

post #219 of 268
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Originally Posted by SoundofMind View Post

^Interesting. 

I've had several Denon AVRs and AFAIK the SOP on Denon AVRs is that for each input the AVR senses the type of signal and applies the last sound mode you used for that type of signal, so your 2 ch material would play in Stereo every time.  MC would play in a surround mode every time.  This is the "Denon personal memory plus" feature.

That's how it works on my AVR A100, connected to my DBP A100 via HDMI and the legacy Cat5/DL4th cable.

Yes that is how it worked when I had the had the denon 3313 combo. That's how it works on virtually every amp I've ever owned. No need for a second cable in relation to maintains different sound formats.

As has been said the second out is really for those without a 3d enabled amp or to run two displays.
post #220 of 268
Anyone had issues with cinavia?
post #221 of 268
I really appreciate everyone's input! Tore down my old system over the last 3 hours and will assemble the new one tomorrow including adding 2 Front High Speakers to the existing 7.1 configuration.. Great to have realtime inputs and help like this.
post #222 of 268
^

Congratulations. I look forward to hearing from you how the new set-up sounds compared to what you removed.
post #223 of 268

lengthening power cable on 3313 udci

I am towards the end of my theater build and need the power cord on my 3313udci longer. I have some 16-2 wire, Will this work? I am just splicing in a section since most of it will be hidden.
post #224 of 268
I am towards the end of my theater build and need the power cord on my 3313udci longer. I have some 16-2 wire, Will this work? I am just splicing in a section since most of it will be hidden.

After looking at cord it may be 14-2, anyone have confirmation on this?
post #225 of 268

^I'm sure adding a few feet of 16ga would be fine, the OM lists the draw as 25W which seems crazy low but for sure this isn't a toaster ;)

 

I'd use quality wire nuts of proper size with metal insides and finish off with a coupla tight (stretching the tape a bit) wraps of good elect tape securing nut to the plastic sheath.

 

BTW per code you have to have all splices in an accessible box, they can't be behind a wall.

post #226 of 268
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^I'm sure adding a few feet of 16ga would be fine, the OM lists the draw as 25W which seems crazy low but for sure this isn't a toaster wink.gif

I'd use quality wire nuts of proper size with metal insides and finish off with a coupla tight (stretching the tape a bit) wraps of good elect tape securing nut to the plastic sheath.

BTW per code you have to have all splices in an accessible box, they can't be behind a wall.
great info! I may go ahead and get 14-2 and everything is accessible...doesn't matter much though...my uncle is the inspector lol!
post #227 of 268
Wouldn't it be better/safer just to buy a new IEC mains lead thats longer? I have an uprated one on mine and it works well
post #228 of 268
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Wouldn't it be better/safer just to buy a new IEC mains lead thats longer? I have an uprated one on mine and it works well
you have a link? What sucks, is this would hold up drywall & paintoso need a fast fix.
post #229 of 268
Mine was a custom made Dalkey Audio cable from Ireland. If you are happy using the standard lead then just pick up a similar IEC lead from a local electrical store
post #230 of 268
Stupid question but have to ask...where do you guys plug your Blu-ray in on the PF60? The digital or video bank? I have my Xbox in the auxiliary plug but need to know where to plug in the Blu-ray.

Thanks.
post #231 of 268
I'd be more inclined to use the Digital one as I believe when I had the UK PF50 the video sockets were more geared for analogue video or displays.
post #232 of 268
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I'd be more inclined to use the Digital one as I believe when I had the UK PF50 the video sockets were more geared for analogue video or displays.
that was my thought, but then I keep thinking it's a video source lol!
post #233 of 268
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I'd be more inclined to use the Digital one as I believe when I had the UK PF50 the video sockets were more geared for analogue video or displays.
I guess technically my Xbox could go there to then "digital" instead of AUX.
post #234 of 268
well I took the plunge and have this unit en route. I know some have had issues with it but I was able to get it 50.00 cheaper than the oppo 103. hoping I don't regret that decision. I like the idea of denon link with my x4000.

anxious to see how it fares. on line reviews are few and far between and this thread has been pretty quiet. i'll post my impressions when it arrives late next week.
post #235 of 268
I just got that combination myself, and although the speakers I have are rather outclassed by the system (waiting for the piggy bank to fill up again to get a pair of KEF LS-50), it performs outstandingly well. image is amazing even with DVDs and the sound is superb. I am rediscovering all my audio and video collection.

Couldn't be happier with my purchase and I hope you will be enjoying it as much as I have.
post #236 of 268

Hi! I bought the DBT 3313UD today and connected it to my Onkyo TR SX608 through HDMI.

 

I connected the devices through the HDMI Amp out only expecting that this will allow me to have the video on TV and audio through the speakers however i am only getting audio out of this connection without any video.

 

I understand from the owner's manual and this thread that one can have a single hdmi connection from the Denon DBT 3313 to an AV receiver and have an audio video output.

My AV receiver is working and I connected it to the denon through the HDMI monitor out and I could access the setup menus but without audio.

 

Anyone knows if I am missing any configuration steps to have a single hdmi connection to my av receiver enabling an audio video connection? Thanks for any help with this.

post #237 of 268
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Originally Posted by Ant Sy View Post

Hi! I bought the DBT 3313UD today and connected it to my Onkyo TR SX608 through HDMI.

I connected the devices through the HDMI Amp out only expecting that this will allow me to have the video on TV and audio through the speakers however i am only getting audio out of this connection without any video.

I understand from the owner's manual and this thread that one can have a single hdmi connection from the Denon DBT 3313 to an AV receiver and have an audio video output.
My AV receiver is working and I connected it to the denon through the HDMI monitor out and I could access the setup menus but without audio.

Anyone knows if I am missing any configuration steps to have a single hdmi connection to my av receiver enabling an audio video connection? Thanks for any help with this.

Make sure you are not in AV Pure Direct mode as this will force the video to go through the HDMI MONITOR out port and the audio (with black video) through the HDMI Amp out port. Check page 8 and 27 of the manual.

Hope this helps
post #238 of 268
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Originally Posted by ArTourter View Post


Make sure you are not in AV Pure Direct mode as this will force the video to go through the HDMI MONITOR out port and the audio (with black video) through the HDMI Amp out port. Check page 8 and 27 of the manual.

Hope this helps

Thanks. It pretty much solved it! I missed the AV Pure Direct mode... Thanks again!

post #239 of 268
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Originally Posted by ArTourter View Post

I just got that combination myself, and although the speakers I have are rather outclassed by the system (waiting for the piggy bank to fill up again to get a pair of KEF LS-50), it performs outstandingly well. image is amazing even with DVDs and the sound is superb. I am rediscovering all my audio and video collection.

Couldn't be happier with my purchase and I hope you will be enjoying it as much as I have.

reporting back on my initial impressions.... this thing has astonishing build quality. I am truly impressed. picture and sound are brilliant. zero complaints so far. I've updated the firmware and have watched several blu rays, some 2d some 3d and couldn't be happier. I still need to throw a regular dvd in to see how it compares to my previous unit. if only there were more time in a day... i'll report back when I do.

I am surprised that more people don't grab this player when you can find it fairly inexpensive through a dealer.
post #240 of 268
follow up impressions... I watched two really old dvds tonight and they were awesome with this unit. the first was my original matrix dvd (talking carboard with plastic tab that clicks shut), the other was reign of fire. both looked terrible on my last player on 100" screen. then denon brought new life to both dvds.
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