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Yamaha RX-V373 vs. Harman Kardon AVR-1700

post #1 of 16
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I'm looking for a 5.1 receiver with a minimum of 4 HDMI inputs, budget $250 or less. These 2 receivers are at the top of my list. I've read that Yamaha receivers are very reliable, and that HK receivers are going downhill since the owner died. I'm also thinking of waiting to see what's announced at CES soon. What do you guys think? Thanks
post #2 of 16
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Anyone?
post #3 of 16
Not familiar with either however, you may also want to consider the Denon 1613 with 4 HDMI input on the rear panel and 1 on the front panel ....

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/DENAVR1613/DENON-AVR-1613-5.1ch-Networking-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-ready/1.html
post #4 of 16
I'm in the same boat as you right now. I was looking online at nicer receivers (vsx-1122, sc-1222, vsx-60, tx-nr809) but have decided I need to spend less as I 'need' a few things more important than a receiver(like trim tabs for my boat:)). I was looking at the rx-v371 that is currently $169 on amazon until I saw the deal on the avr-1700. I like the 2 year warranty the HK carries so I'll go check it out. Not real impressed with HK in general though. HK came in my car and it doesn't sound as good as the stereo that came in the Mach 1 mustang I once had.Maybe the home audio will be better. I think the vsx-822 can be had for $249. Found the vsx-1122 for $319. When I go listen to some of these units I'll have a better feel for them. Good luck with your search. If I get the HK I'll let you know what I think.
post #5 of 16
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Thanks guys. The more I read about the HK, the less I'm considering it. And I'm not sure if I want a refurb.
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Thanks guys. The more I read about the HK, the less I'm considering it. And I'm not sure if I want a refurb.

Not sure if you have or ever owned a HK. In my opinion, they get somewhat of a bad rap. I bought the 1700 last night. I did email HK and ask for a timeframe for the 2700/3700. I recently got rid of my AVR 354 and it seems like it was the most hated receiver in the AVS forums. Not sure if some people got faulty units (which every brand has) or if I got one of the few good units. I used the receiver for 4 years with minimal issues. My receiver prior to that was the AVR 330. I was skeptical about buying the unit, being used to the 300 series, I know they were usually pretty powerful. I know the rating of 100wpc may be a stretch, but I figure it will at least be more than the 75wpc the 354 was rated at. I'm interested to see what this receiver will do with my setup. If it doesn't perform, i will take it back and wait on the 2700. BTW I bought this right before pulling the trigger on the Pioneer SC 1222k. I was actually gonna buy that one, one day this week, but saw the Best Buy ad for this. Long story short, if you have never tried HK, give it a shot. The sound on my previous 2 was amazing. Since there is limited info on this machine, even on Youtube, I will try to make a video to inform other potential owners.
post #7 of 16
Just got the avr-1700, I posted my first impression in another thread about the harman kardon. We're watching a movie right now and it sounds pretty good. One thing's for sure, the price was right. Did you see the deal on the sc-1222 for $549?
Edited by signedup - 12/31/12 at 8:35pm
post #8 of 16
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I've read that Yamaha receivers are very reliable, and that HK receivers are going downhill since the owner died.

Sidney Harman died in Apri 2011 so you're saying the company has gone downhill in just the last 20 months? Their receivers have been behind the competition as far as features for a lot longer than that. The amp section has generally been good but they're slow to add features that other mfrs have been using for quite some time like Audysssey room calibration. Harman Intl is a huge corporation which also includes JBL and Infinity speakers.
post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by signedup View Post

Just got the avr-1700, I posted my first impression in another thread about the harman kardon. We're watching a movie right now and it sounds pretty good. One thing's for sure, the price was right. Did you see the deal on the sc-1222 for $549?

Yeah, I saw it and that's the one I was going to purchase... My wife saw it in Best Buy when I took her to see the 1700 and she said it looked old fashioned and I should stick with Harman. I have always liked the look of the HK receivers.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

Sidney Harman died in Apri 2011 so you're saying the company has gone downhill in just the last 20 months? Their receivers have been behind the competition as far as features for a lot longer than that. The amp section has generally been good but they're slow to add features that other mfrs have been using for quite some time like Audysssey room calibration. Harman Intl is a huge corporation which also includes JBL and Infinity speakers.

Lack of features.... That was the reason I wanted to get away from the HK receiver. I was sold on the Pioneer, mainly because of the iPad app... The reviews were mixed as with all other receivers and I'm not spending enough to be really picky about my sound. I chose the 1700 over the 3650, simply bc of the iPad app and the digital power supply. I have been hearing good things about the power or the digital power supply.
post #11 of 16
I've had both H/K and Yamaha and I liked the sound of the H/K better. I haven't heard the 1700 yet. I just know I liked the sound of my 2600 sounded better than the RX-A820. To me H/K has always had a warm/full sound to them. IMO the Yamaha sounded brighter and didn't have as much presence as the H/K did.
post #12 of 16
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I've had both H/K and Yamaha and I liked the sound of the H/K better. I haven't heard the 1700 yet. I just know I liked the sound of my 2600 sounded better than the RX-A820. To me H/K has always had a warm/full sound to them. IMO the Yamaha sounded brighter and didn't have as much presence as the H/K did.

I can tell you for certain without a doubt, my H/K sounds much better listeing to Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds live at radio city blu ray being primarily acoustic music than my pioneer did. Sounds much richer, movies im still on the fence if its just me thinking theres a big difference and wether or not I like it, maybe im drinking the cool aid but i deffinately think the HK has a different sound compared to the pioneer and onkyo I had before it. But with that DMB Blu Ray concert, theres not a doubt in my mind it sounds MUCH better
post #13 of 16
I got the 1700 last night, after returning the onkyo 515 ( liked it but had an issue where it would lose picture/sound, and appears to be a known issue ) for a yamaha 473, and replaced that with the 1700. The yamaha sounded good and some nice extras but felt underpowered. Also had a weird thing about not having sound if the source and the received were not started in a particular order. The HK 1700 has pretty much most of the features the other units has and sounds good to me, and at 199 at BB it was a deal.
post #14 of 16
Anybody know if this would be an 'upgrade' over a Yamaha RX-V565 receiver?

I'm trying to power two Polk Monitor 70's, a Polk CS2, and two Monitor 30 surrounds.

The Harmon Kardon is rated at 100watts/channel.

The Yamaha 565 is rated at 90watts/channel.

But I have trouble believing the Harmon Kardon, being only 12 lbs, will supply any more power than the Yamaha.

But for 200 bucks, it's worth asking.
post #15 of 16
Those power ratings for both those receivers are for two channels driven, not 5. Neither will put out 90 or 100 watts per channel in a 5.1 or 5.0 setup.

90 vs 100 watts is negligible anyway, you can't tell a 10 watt difference.

The HK 1700 uses a SMPS (Switch Mode Power Supply) similar to a PC hence the much lighter weight. Go for the receiver that has the features you want, not the mfrs power ratings. If you don't need more than 4 HDMI inputs or the network features of the HK, stay with your Yamaha.
post #16 of 16
I am looking for a receiver and need to pick between Yamaha RX-V673 vs Harman Kardon AVR 1700. Can someone let me know. This is not apples to apples comparison as one is a 7.2 and the other is 5.1 but I am more interested in sound quality and reliability .
Please suggest .
Edited by singh83 - 8/22/13 at 10:49am
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