AE TD12x SEOS12 Build!!!! - Page 7

dang, as you quoted eloquently, my opinions so far should speak for themselves!! haha. I LOVE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

More listening impression to come, if you guys leave me alone...haha:D

Yea wow, I didn't really proof that post, terrible on my part. My apologies for the over-use and poor pontification, I was just MAD stoked at how impressed I was.


Not sure, if I moved the mic a little lower, where it would be about right at the phase plug's height, there is a pretty serious dip at 1khz, at the LP, up close, it isnt as noticable, and the FR is about the same as what I have posted around 1khz, just the top end rolls off much faster at that point. Could it also be too much of that "lateral" treatment? Where should I start? Each panel up to the front row treats a first reflection point of one of the front speakers, the ones beyond that are just for looks and for the surround reflection points. I like a pretty heavily treated room, but I could possibly remove some of the further back panels and treat the front wall a little more if need-be.


Where do you want me to review the stuff? I would be happy to As far as the AE stuff goes, yes you could use a different woofer I would guess, but the distortion and linearity figures might suffer somewhat. The AE is just so friggin clean.


No flat pack, I just bought the front baffles, and cut the ports myself, and built the box around it.



Up top they are both very similar, but the soundstage is more uniform from what I remember. The sweet spot is the widest and most uniform I have ever heard. I can pick instruments out of the mix better so far and pinpoint their location on the screen. down low, since they are usable to 20hz full range, there is no comparison, they will walk all over the T-12's there. If I XO'd them at 80hz, which I plan on doing for movies, then my general consensus would be that I like the SEOS better, purely for the fact the more controlled directivity over the coax plays better with my room, and sounds overall better to me

Thanks for all the comments gentlemen So after I posted last night I went back down and began watching DMB live at radio city music hall, which is great to hear the detail the speakers can provide and for the first time actually preferred the staging of the show in stereo over 5.1 TrueHD, beyond that, I could run at reference on the 4311 and even though I knew the speakers had more, I wasn't going any further. That track is already a little hot, and at -0, it was louder than I could handle for long periods of time for sure. -5 was killer, and even at -10 the sound was full bodied and wonderful.

After that I popped in my Steve Vai BD that is also trueHD but once again , preferred stereo over TrueHD. I don't know what was happening but it seemed to pull some of the dynamics and richness out of the sound, actually, I think I forgot to check to see if Aud was on when in surround mode. That might have been it Tonight I need to run Aud again to see what it does with these, and if I prefer the sound more. I know with the LS6's I hated them with Audyssey on. I also need to start on incorporating the 4 SI's I already have in, and see how well these blend together. I will also experiment a little with toe-in, and will pull the speakers up to the front of the sub boxes as suggested. That does get them closer to the screen and I don't know how well that will work out. Perhaps a shade of diffraction sacrificed for a better overall response with the speakers further from the A-T material? dunno.

I cannot WAIT to get home and play some more with these magnificent creations. This is my first real premium LCR build-out, and I really love what came out of it. I might be speaking too soon, as the Noesis still intrigues me, but I would have to state that unless I have to for some reason, I will never run anything less than a full range main again. There ya go Scott

That is good to know Also, I meant to ask, I don't have double bass, or whatever, but I am assuming with the Denons, this is the same thing as setting it to LFE+Mains on the bass settings?

drag the JBL's back up? There is room...haha. That ebay dude posted those horns back up without calling me in regards to those horns, I am pissed, I was gonna pay their way to me at just about the price he has the whole rig listed at right now. Why wouldnt you do that?!?!

Hmm, the denon's lowest XO other thank running full range is 40hz, I guess that would still work. With any live concert I have that is recorded in 5.1/7.1, there wouldn't be any real content below that I assume, and if so, not much at all. The LFE+Main doesn't do anything if the mix is stereo right? You have to have an LFE signal to be able to add it to the mains right? If it is not there, I don't see how this would work. Ive always had LFE+Mains on anyways, so it is what it is. My initial plan with these was to have them tuned low enough they could go about it solo with stereo music listening, but then have them crossed at the ole 80hz point for movies and cut the subs on. With concert BD's, I guess it is kind of in the middle of all that so I dunno. Even running full range on them last night, at ref, they were clean as whistle, but I digress, there probably wasn't much content below 40hz to make the driver unload anyways.


Those JBL's are only good to 40hz, oh, ah, seal em' up you say? let em take the 80hz n down material. I will have to see how the SI's do before I decide that is actually worth it or not.