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post #121 of 799
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post #122 of 799
Can someone comment on the sainsonics and the loosing sync, red tape / red marker fix? Does it work?
post #123 of 799
fyi, I tested 3dtv corp glasses tonight, worked great, no issues, blocked red flashes, kept sync, I could see a bit of flicker, but I was very happy watching Hugo, Prometheus and playing dead space 2 with helix mod.... was in rear projection also.
post #124 of 799
Just had the sainsonics for a spin, terrible color and horrid red in the blacks
post #125 of 799
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Originally Posted by dbox1080p View Post

Just had the sainsonics for a spin, terrible color and horrid red in the blacks

Thats quite unforunate.. wonder if they will update their glasses... seems must be just a timing issue.
post #126 of 799
Just got my True Depth glasses today. Wow! Much improved contrast and color over the Sainsonics. They are built much better as well, with a much more flexible yet sturdy feel.

Is the red flash completely eliminated? Yes and no. Yes for the most part except for the lower part of the screen. If you tilt the glasses downward, it pretty much removes it. Yet if you look on the left or right edges of the screen, you can still see a little red. Tilting the glasses this much also introduces some ghosting as well.

The True Depths seem to be more sensitive to the angle of the glasses.

With all of this being said, I personally will never watch anything on the Sainsonics again. However they will come in handy for large groups. It's one of those cases where ignorance is bliss. I didn't think that they were so bad until I used the True Depths.
post #127 of 799
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Originally Posted by digitalsleep View Post

fyi, I tested 3dtv corp glasses tonight, worked great, no issues, blocked red flashes, kept sync, I could see a bit of flicker, but I was very happy watching Hugo, Prometheus and playing dead space 2 with helix mod...
. was in rear projection also.

That's good to hear. Nice to have more options. Was that the rechargeable one?
post #128 of 799
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Originally Posted by accordex View Post

Can someone comment on the sainsonics and the loosing sync, red tape / red marker fix? Does it work?

If you haven't bought them yet, I would suggest you get either the latest version of the True Depth glasses or the 3dtvcorp glasses. The Sainsonics are not much cheaper than the 3dtvcorp glasses, yet have more problems. Digitalsleep above says they work great. I'm thinking of getting a couple myself.
post #129 of 799
Thread Starter 
Upon further testing, I discovered that the TrueDepth BETA produces some "static" acoustic noise on the arms. I can hear the noise during quiet movie scenes, and it's very prominent when I cover my ears with my palms. The 120Hz TrueDepth set that I received earlier also suffers from this static noise at 120Hz mode. I have let Daniel know about it, and I'm waiting for his feedback
post #130 of 799
Does anyone have a recommendation for compatible 3d glasses that will fit comfortably over prescription glasses?
post #131 of 799
I received true depth glasses about a week and a half ago. How does one determine if they are running at 144Hz short of assuming it looks correct watching content.
post #132 of 799
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Originally Posted by mikesnapp View Post

I received true depth glasses about a week and a half ago. How does one determine if they are running at 144Hz short of assuming it looks correct watching content.

The projector is running at the speed it is. The glasses only sync with it. So if it looks good, then it's working. If the W1070 is running at 144hz, then the glasses must also be.
post #133 of 799
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mikesnapp View Post

I received true depth glasses about a week and a half ago. How does one determine if they are running at 144Hz short of assuming it looks correct watching content.

HDMI info should show both "1080p24Hz" and "3D". The projector will use 144Hz DLP-link signalling with the glasses.
post #134 of 799
144 Hz compatible, tint-less and completely transparent http://www.3dhdgear.com/1-2-Infra-red-active-3D-glasses-p/v-edge1.2.htm
post #135 of 799
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Originally Posted by Elix View Post

144 Hz compatible, tint-less and completely transparent http://www.3dhdgear.com/1-2-Infra-red-active-3D-glasses-p/v-edge1.2.htm

Your link is for infrared, you need DLP-Link glasses.

Rew

Link for them is - http://www.3dhdgear.com/Volfoni-EDGE-1-1-DLP-Link-3D-glasses-p/v-edge1.1dlp.htm
post #136 of 799
Hi Kelvink

My appologies first, Im not sure how to use the forums and make good replies

About your 3D glasses review,
Did you use glasses version 2 in your comparison or the older version?

http://www.benq.com/product/projector/3dglasses2

What do you think of version 2 or is it the one that you wrote is small and for kids?

I am planning to buy this week BENQ W1070 Projector, and wanted to buy the best 3D glasses for it, which would you recommend then?

http://www.benq.com/product/projector/68/264

from this link I thought 3D Glasses - D3 according to what you wrote are the best and better then 3D Glasses 2, is that correct or where you referring to a different model?


Please reply also to:
acetrip@gmail.com

As Im not sure I get notification (Im new in the forums)

Thank you !

A Ben
post #137 of 799
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Originally Posted by Rew452 View Post

Your link is for infrared, you need DLP-Link glasses.

Rew

Link for them is - http://www.3dhdgear.com/Volfoni-EDGE-1-1-DLP-Link-3D-glasses-p/v-edge1.1dlp.htm
Good point, thanks.
post #138 of 799
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by acetrip View Post

Hi Kelvink

My appologies first, Im not sure how to use the forums and make good replies

About your 3D glasses review,
Did you use glasses version 2 in your comparison or the older version?

http://www.benq.com/product/projector/3dglasses2

What do you think of version 2 or is it the one that you wrote is small and for kids?

I am planning to buy this week BENQ W1070 Projector, and wanted to buy the best 3D glasses for it, which would you recommend then?

http://www.benq.com/product/projector/68/264

from this link I thought 3D Glasses - D3 according to what you wrote are the best and better then 3D Glasses 2, is that correct or where you referring to a different model?


Please reply also to:
acetrip@gmail.com

As Im not sure I get notification (Im new in the forums)

Thank you !

A Ben

The Benq 3dglasses2 is exactly the same as the J3925 in my review. You read me right, imo it's good for small kids since it's very lightweight and gentle. The picture quality, however, is not as good as the Benq D3 and the TrueDepth BETA. If you read my later comments on the TrueDepth BETA, however, it produces static acoustic noise on the 2 arms. To me this is very unacceptable, and I'm waiting for TrueDepth's followup on this issue. Therefore as of now the Benq D3 provides the best quality and experience.

Hope it helps!
post #139 of 799
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

The Benq 3dglasses2 is exactly the same as the J3925 in my review. You read me right, imo it's good for small kids since it's very lightweight and gentle. The picture quality, however, is not as good as the Benq D3 and the TrueDepth BETA. If you read my later comments on the TrueDepth BETA, however, it produces static acoustic noise on the 2 arms. To me this is very unacceptable, and I'm waiting for TrueDepth's followup on this issue. Therefore as of now the Benq D3 provides the best quality and experience.

Hope it helps!

I wonder what makes this noise... do you think it's the LCDs shuttering? Sine these should have no moving parts I really wonder what could make any noise at all...
post #140 of 799
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Devedander View Post

I wonder what makes this noise... do you think it's the LCDs shuttering? Sine these should have no moving parts I really wonder what could make any noise at all...

Based on my experience, this noise resembles acoustic static noise from faulty switching power supply. I suggested "bad h/w component" to Daniel, and he is following up with his main engineer. We ruled out "isolated case" as all 3 sets I got from him suffer from this issue. An excerpt from his reply:
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Yes, if you hear it from all 3 pairs of glasses, then it seems something is going on. I haven't been able to hear it with our test projectors (which are at 120 hz) but I'm going to see if we can get in touch with Benq and borrow a w1070 to get it figured out. Our engineer is gone for the weekend, but I hope to hear back on this issue by Monday or Tuesday. I'll keep in touch.
post #141 of 799
i am looking at getting 2 pairs of version 3.5 true depth. but would like to know the level of annoyance, and the outcome when it get resolved.
post #142 of 799
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

Based on my experience, this noise resembles acoustic static noise from faulty switching power supply. I suggested "bad h/w component" to Daniel, and he is following up with his main engineer. We ruled out "isolated case" as all 3 sets I got from him suffer from this issue. An excerpt from his reply:

Pretty good he responds like that...

wonder if after this all gets straightened out if there should be an AVS group buy or something....
post #143 of 799
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wonder if after this all gets straightened out if there should be an AVS group buy or something....

Good idea, I was looking into buying two pairs of V3.5 but think the postage of $30.- to the UK is a bit steep. A bulk buy for some AVS Europeans seems like a great idea.
post #144 of 799
BenQ D3 backorder is really sucking right now, I ordered some on 02/01 and they still haven't shipped (estimate was 7-14 days, which gives them 2 more days before I start getting really irritated), if they aren't any better than the 3dtv corp ones I'll be pissed I waited so long for these.
post #145 of 799
First of all You can not go wrong by buying 3 D glasses from True depth as Daniel and their customer support is second to none. As they stand by everything they sale and work hard to make it right. As I have the latest 144hz addition from them with a few features that I asked for and they delivered. see below for the new feature which I think every one will want on their glasses.

I HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH TRUE DEPTH OR DANIEL BUT WHEN A COMPANY WORKS THIS HARD FOR YOUR BUSINESS THEY DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR IT AS THIS KIND OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS HARD TO FIND

I am using a Benq W1070 projector and the glasses work very well on all 3d content I have watch , from PS3 3D gaming to blu ray 3D movies and from my Oppo 103 2d to 3d conversion.

I personal have not been able to hear this ACOUSTIC STATIC NOISE Kelvink as been talking about I am not saying he is not hearing it , but I do not on mine as I have watch a good 30 minutes with the volume off just to see if i could hear it , plus there were 2 other people listening for it as well.

This is how great the customer support Is

As I asked" Daniel if True Depth made a dlp link glasses that you can set both lenses to right eye only or left eye only, this would be for gaming and for people in my family which 3D bothers them when they watch it . As 3D does not bother me so then the whole family could watch the same movie some in 3D and some in 2D."

and with in a day I got this response:

"since corresponding with you, I passed your request on to the engineer, and he said it was a pretty simple task. He's already created a program to do left eye only and right eye only. The glasses are ready to ship! I personally tested them out today and they work great. The operation is through only one button which can be confusing, but this is the cycle:

press the power button:
1. (the first press) 3D
2. Polarity reversal (if the 3D needs to be inverted, this will do the trick)
3. left eye only
4. right eye only
5. power off.

Also, in my tests, it seems the glasses can be turned off at any stage by holding down the power button as before. "


It is a nice feature to have when watching a 3D movie encase some one gets tired of watching 3D caused by eye strain they can switch to 2D by using right eye or left eye only on the setting of the glasses so now both eyes are seeing the same picture at the same time.

The right or left eye only is a great feature I would highly recommend it , as it was the first time I have been able to get simuliew to work with my Sony ps3 , as i do have an HDMI detective hooked up and with the code of the sonys 24" monitor in it and it worked great . But this feature should also let you do the same thing for side by side gaming and then put your projector in to 3d to do SBS and you should get the same results , each player getting is own full view of the screen one left eye one right eye I still need to test this out .

I would say if you are missing out on watching 3D because you are sitting on the fence to what glasses to buy , Go with True Depth as with the customer support of True depth you can not go wrong as I have said before they stand by their products so if you do have a problem they will be there to help you through it.

GPC
post #146 of 799
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Originally Posted by GPC1 View Post

First of all You can not go wrong by buying 3 D glasses from True depth as Daniel and their customer support is second to none. As they stand by everything they sale and work hard to make it right. As I have the latest 144hz addition from them with a few features that I asked for and they delivered. see below for the new feature which I think every one will want on their glasses.

I HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH TRUE DEPTH OR DANIEL BUT WHEN A COMPANY WORKS THIS HARD FOR YOUR BUSINESS THEY DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED FOR IT AS THIS KIND OF CUSTOMER SERVICE IS HARD TO FIND

I am using a Benq W1070 projector and the glasses work very well on all 3d content I have watch , from PS3 3D gaming to blu ray 3D movies and from my Oppo 103 2d to 3d conversion.

I personal have not been able to hear this ACOUSTIC STATIC NOISE Kelvink as been talking about I am not saying he is not hearing it , but I do not on mine as I have watch a good 30 minutes with the volume off just to see if i could hear it , plus there were 2 other people listening for it as well.

This is how great the customer support Is

As I asked" Daniel if True Depth made a dlp link glasses that you can set both lenses to right eye only or left eye only, this would be for gaming and for people in my family which 3D bothers them when they watch it . As 3D does not bother me so then the whole family could watch the same movie some in 3D and some in 2D."

and with in a day I got this response:

"since corresponding with you, I passed your request on to the engineer, and he said it was a pretty simple task. He's already created a program to do left eye only and right eye only. The glasses are ready to ship! I personally tested them out today and they work great. The operation is through only one button which can be confusing, but this is the cycle:

press the power button:
1. (the first press) 3D
2. Polarity reversal (if the 3D needs to be inverted, this will do the trick)
3. left eye only
4. right eye only
5. power off.

Also, in my tests, it seems the glasses can be turned off at any stage by holding down the power button as before. "


It is a nice feature to have when watching a 3D movie encase some one gets tired of watching 3D caused by eye strain they can switch to 2D by using right eye or left eye only on the setting of the glasses so now both eyes are seeing the same picture at the same time.

The right or left eye only is a great feature I would highly recommend it , as it was the first time I have been able to get simuliew to work with my Sony ps3 , as i do have an HDMI detective hooked up and with the code of the sonys 24" monitor in it and it worked great . But this feature should also let you do the same thing for side by side gaming and then put your projector in to 3d to do SBS and you should get the same results , each player getting is own full view of the screen one left eye one right eye I still need to test this out .

I would say if you are missing out on watching 3D because you are sitting on the fence to what glasses to buy , Go with True Depth as with the customer support of True depth you can not go wrong as I have said before they stand by their products so if you do have a problem they will be there to help you through it.

GPC


Wow that is HUGE!

Up until now I have considered that a big plus for passive displays unless you wan to tool around with your active glasses yourself... the ability to do this for active is HUGE not only because it means you can do something you coudln't before but because a huge downer with passive dual play is that you have the resolution drop from the source, but then you have to deal with the aliasing issue of the display itself. I can only imaginet that as soft as the image would be at half stretched res, on an active display (where hopefully the frame will be interpolated or at least line doubled) the result would be much more acceptable.

That and the fact that passive displays still have some crosstalk issue so you dualplay has some image leak over, from what I hear DLP has no crosstalk so this should mean its literally possible to have dual play completely clean for both players with the content upscaled to full 1080p resolution for both eyes with no scanlines...

Added to this the benefit of being able to have 2D for the few friends who don't like 3D...

Getting really hard for me to hold out now... if this gets into production and the noise in the glasses goes away (and especially if we can get a group buy for discount on shipping and a price break)....

Damn I might just have to do this sooner than I wanted to... I really want a decent 2D-3D converter built in but with all this other stuff I may just give that up...
post #147 of 799
is there anyone in Australia interested in a group buy? (Please Pm me)

i have asked Daniel if he could change the 2d/3d glasses to make it easier to use.

press the power button will start up in 3d mode.

A double click will swap between 2d and 3d mode.

In 3D Mode.
1. Polarity reversal (if the 3D needs to be inverted, this will do the trick).

In 2D mode.
1. left eye only
2. right eye only

A long press at any time will turn the glasses off.



i have 2 pairs of sansonics, one blocks the red tint better then the other. i haven't had any syncing issues, i do have a near black movie room.
Edited by Bradley King - 2/12/13 at 3:42pm
post #148 of 799
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Originally Posted by Bradley King View Post

is there anyone in Australia interested in a group buy? (Please Pm me)

i have asked Daniel if he could change the 2d/3d glasses to make it easier to use.

press the power button will start up in 3d mode.

A double click will swap between 2d and 3d mode.

In 3D Mode.
1. Polarity reversal (if the 3D needs to be inverted, this will do the trick).

In 2D mode.
1. left eye only
2. right eye only

A long press at any time will turn the glasses off.



i have 2 pairs of sansonics, one blocks the red tint better then the other. i haven't had any syncing issues, i do have a near black movie room.

In my experience a long press is better than any double presses... maybe a 2 second long press to switch modes and a 5 second to power off? I personally think double pressing to switch modes with no sign of what mode it's in would get frustrating...
post #149 of 799
I think having 2D viewing is a great idea. I also have family and friends who are not big fans of 3D and this would be the perfect solution.

I have 144hz sainsonic glasses and was originally impressed by the 3D image. But under further scrutiny i'm really noticing the red tint and also i'm seeing a fair bit of crosstalk. I only bought 1 pair to test the 3D, so i don't know if mine are faulty or it's a design flaw. I'm guessing that could be one reason why fast motion doesn't look that smooth??

How are the True Depth for crosstalk?

Weekly i have some friends around for xbox night, so using Top and Bottom 3D would be a great way to stop 'enemy' screen watching.
I tested out this idea by running a game on local split screen at 1080p 24hz (processed through my amp) and running Top and Bottom 3D. I then closed one eye at a time to see either screen and found that crosstalk was quite prominent. You could clearly see light areas from the other screen if your screen displayed a dark image. Not sure if that would be classed as ghosting, but it was quite noticable. This effect was a lot more obvious at the edges of the glasses.

If the True Depth offer a 2D switching option and don't produce the crosstalk noticed in this test, i would definitely be interested joining a UK bulk purchase biggrin.gif
post #150 of 799
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Originally Posted by Oz10 View Post

I think having 2D viewing is a great idea. I also have family and friends who are not big fans of 3D and this would be the perfect solution.

I have 144hz sainsonic glasses and was originally impressed by the 3D image. But under further scrutiny i'm really noticing the red tint and also i'm seeing a fair bit of crosstalk. I only bought 1 pair to test the 3D, so i don't know if mine are faulty or it's a design flaw. I'm guessing that could be one reason why fast motion doesn't look that smooth??

How are the True Depth for crosstalk?

Weekly i have some friends around for xbox night, so using Top and Bottom 3D would be a great way to stop 'enemy' screen watching.
I tested out this idea by running a game on local split screen at 1080p 24hz (processed through my amp) and running Top and Bottom 3D. I then closed one eye at a time to see either screen and found that crosstalk was quite prominent. You could clearly see light areas from the other screen if your screen displayed a dark image. Not sure if that would be classed as ghosting, but it was quite noticable. This effect was a lot more obvious at the edges of the glasses.

If the True Depth offer a 2D switching option and don't produce the crosstalk noticed in this test, i would definitely be interested joining a UK bulk purchase biggrin.gif

A big caveat to remember is that to properly do this the game must support it otherwise each player gets a very stretched view (either tall if it's ou or wide if it's sbs)
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