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post #391 of 798
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Originally Posted by acidmanvl View Post

Just got the answer from Daniel :
"I'm very sorry about this! I spoke with our engineer about this and it turns out the 2D/3D version of these glasses are not well suited for 120hz projectors. The engineer is working on a new program for this and hopes to have it done within a week."

So this is great I have my answer =)

But still havn't found how to use the 2d mode hehe

New glasses on their way, again a excellent service from TrueDepth.

I deceided to go with the newest glasses without the 2D option. Anyway I wanted this option to play coop games in full screen but after playing split screen on a 120 inch surface you find that it is not really needed =)
Edited by acidmanvl - 4/4/13 at 10:09am
post #392 of 798
I have just received two pairs of the v3.5 TrueDepths from Daniel.

They are fantastic at 144Hz and 120Hz compared to my Sainsonics. The colours are far truer and brighter and the focus and sharpness is like the difference between night and day in comparison.

A couple of warnings to UK readers though, firstly, shipping is about £23 and I got stung a further £15 by customs! Also, they don't work well at 50Hz when watching SKY 3D. They constantly lose sync and flash regularly.

Fortunately I don't have a regular SKY box (not sure how they would work with a regular SKY box) and have tweeked mine to work at 60Hz, this now works flawlessly.

I have emailed Daniel about this, he said:

"I checked with the engineer and the 2D/3D glasses were based off of the 3.5 beta version which was designed for the w1070 running at 144hz. The regular version (non-2D) has now been updated to work better with 100hz and 120hz TVs, but the 2D/3D version still does not apparently. I will speak with the engineer about updating this, though I know this cannot be done by the user- we will need to exchange the glasses for you."

Not sure if I will take up Daniel's offer because of the postage involved but if you are in the US and are dithering over what glasses to buy, I along with many others would thoroughly recommend these.
post #393 of 798
If one wants to save a few dollars 3DActive sells the exact same glasses as the True Depth for less money and they come with a nice case.
The company has the new ones in stock. Not sure if Amazon has the updated ones yet.



http://www.dimensionaloptics.com/3D_Active.aspx

If you use dimensionaloptics give them call or write to them to be sure you get the latest version. I have both the True Depth and the 3D active glasses and they both have the same model number on them .
post #394 of 798
Hi guys. I bought a pair of the Sainsonics with my PJ, and they seem to work ok for what they are. Going to order the 3d Corp set from Amazon this week. Question: I'm not entirely clear about what glasses "losing synch" actually means. A few weekends ago I watched Life of Pi in 3d. At times it seemed as though I didn't see a 3d effect, but had a perfectly fine 2d image in 3d mode while wearing the glasses. At no time did the image ever look like what you see in 3d mode without the glasses. Is this what glasses losing synch refers to? I learned that you can't lay down on your side(on the couch:)) or otherwise turn your head at a right angle to the screen. I apologize for such a basic question, but I'll never know for sure unless I ask. I have been Googling but haven't found a satisfactory explanation, although I did run across lots of links to folks having synch issues with various displays. Thanks.
Carl
post #395 of 798
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Originally Posted by meditator1 View Post

Question: I'm not entirely clear about what glasses "losing synch" actually means.
Carl

IMHO losing sync with the Siansonic means that occasionally the 3D effects disappear and all I see are the double images I would get when not using any 3D glasses. Happens when I turn my glasses (ie my eyes) away from the screen). Quick press of the power button re-sync quickly.

I am now the proud owner of 3 3DTV glasses. Non-rechargeables but comes with 3 space batteries. Doesn't seem to lose sync as much. Haven't done any comparison between these and the SianSonics yet.
post #396 of 798
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

The D3 are the brightest.

Hi Kelvink, buy what percentage would you say the D3 are brighter? Ive compared various 3D glasses in the past and they seem to only vary in brightness by about a few %
post #397 of 798
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Originally Posted by wanab View Post

On the Sains there is red flash BUT when you look at a pure black screen in 3D it will look RED.eek.gif I found a tip in this thread ....try a dry erase marker that is red. Paint the little receiver on the glasses and guess what ? No more red flash !tongue.gif Blacks are black and much better contrast. Give it a try. Had to do this because sadly the 3DTV glasses don't fit over my prescription frames. The Sains do. Or another option would be to get just new prescription lenses and set them in the opening in the frame of the 3DTV lenses.wink.gif

Can anyone validate that this works? I've got a bunch of the sainsonics at home. The "minor" amount of Red never really bothered me, and is really only noticeable on the black bars top and bottom of the screen. Most movies have so much going on, that you don't sit there analyzing the blacks to see HOW black they are.

However, I'm interested in this trick, and will probably try it. But what is it about marking the sensor w/ Red that makes the Red go away? Doesn't seem to make much sense to me.
post #398 of 798
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Originally Posted by rayweil View Post

IMHO losing sync with the Siansonic means that occasionally the 3D effects disappear and all I see are the double images I would get when not using any 3D glasses. Happens when I turn my glasses (ie my eyes) away from the screen). Quick press of the power button re-sync quickly.

I am now the proud owner of 3 3DTV glasses. Non-rechargeables but comes with 3 space batteries. Doesn't seem to lose sync as much. Haven't done any comparison between these and the SianSonics yet.
Thanks for the observation Rayweil. I haven't had that experience of just seeing a double image. I'm inclined to think that I'm not really having much a synch-loss issue, but I will get a better feel for this when I order better glasses. I'm inquisitive by nature, so I guess it's just the school teacher in me coming out, wanting to know as much as possible. Thanks again.
Carl
post #399 of 798
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Originally Posted by meditator1 View Post

Thanks for the observation Rayweil. I haven't had that experience of just seeing a double image. I'm inclined to think that I'm not really having much a synch-loss issue, but I will get a better feel for this when I order better glasses. I'm inquisitive by nature, so I guess it's just the school teacher in me coming out, wanting to know as much as possible. Thanks again.
Carl

I do recommend the 3dTV glasses. Cost me more as I'm in Oceania, but worth the $40 postage for shipping 3pairs of glasses. Works out to e about $15 more each than the SianSonics. Still much cheaper than the Benq's.
Edited by rayweil - 4/17/13 at 3:59am
post #400 of 798
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 3DMamper View Post

Hi Kelvink, buy what percentage would you say the D3 are brighter? Ive compared various 3D glasses in the past and they seem to only vary in brightness by about a few %

IMO, the Benq D3 colors are a bit better. I have no means (and no intention) to quantitatively measure the difference. It's a pure subjective observation. Yet, I wouldn't get too excited about this extra bit of color performance difference. Considering the TrueDepth and Monoprice (and 3DTV, 3Active, though I personally don't have them to judge) are way cheaper and easier to get, I consider the Benq D3 a "reference" set. The only set I have serves exactly this purpose: a reference to compare the rest of the glasses.
post #401 of 798
Thanks for all the research that has gone on to helping people on this thread. I think ive read it all twice trying to work out what to buy.
I've brought some cheaper 144hz glasses as spares or when we have guests, but I am trying to nail down what to get as the primary glasses. Now before everyone goes "buy the truedepths or the D3s or even the monoprice ones you moron havent you read anything"... there is the issue of not living anywhere near the states (live in NZ). Shipping costs are insane. At the end of the day I will buy these glasses if everyone reckons they are head and shoulders above anything else but basically here is what I have narrowed my search to...

The 3dtvcorp glasses


The VIP glasses


And some Chinese glasses that could potentially do the job

OZreddog - youve had experience with some of these - any suggestions? Again Im prepared to buy others but im wondering whether one of these stick out as good options
post #402 of 798
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Originally Posted by nzchurbro View Post

Thanks for all the research that has gone on to helping people on this thread. I think ive read it all twice trying to work out what to buy.
I've brought some cheaper 144hz glasses as spares or when we have guests, but I am trying to nail down what to get as the primary glasses. Now before everyone goes "buy the truedepths or the D3s or even the monoprice ones you moron havent you read anything"... there is the issue of not living anywhere near the states (live in NZ). Shipping costs are insane. At the end of the day I will buy these glasses if everyone reckons they are head and shoulders above anything else but basically here is what I have narrowed my search to...

The 3dtvcorp glasses


The VIP glasses


And some Chinese glasses that could potentially do the job

OZreddog - youve had experience with some of these - any suggestions? Again Im prepared to buy others but im wondering whether one of these stick out as good options

I believe they are all from China from just a few OEM's. I'm a fan of the latest generation of glasses from Hi-Shock. Finding a closer reseller to NZ is probably your best bet to save on shipping cost.
post #403 of 798
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Originally Posted by nzchurbro View Post

Thanks for all the research that has gone on to helping people on this thread. I think ive read it all twice trying to work out what to buy.
I've brought some cheaper 144hz glasses as spares or when we have guests, but I am trying to nail down what to get as the primary glasses. Now before everyone goes "buy the truedepths or the D3s or even the monoprice ones you moron havent you read anything"... there is the issue of not living anywhere near the states (live in NZ). Shipping costs are insane. At the end of the day I will buy these glasses if everyone reckons they are head and shoulders above anything else but basically here is what I have narrowed my search to...

The 3dtvcorp glasses


The VIP glasses


And some Chinese glasses that could potentially do the job

OZreddog - youve had experience with some of these - any suggestions? Again Im prepared to buy others but im wondering whether one of these stick out as good options

Hi, yes I have both of the latter two. The VIP glasses are far better than the 'Chinese glasses' for synchronization in 3D. Not that the 'Chinese' are bad, as if you keep either pair pointing in the general direction of the screen, they both work and work well. But, the VIPs will automatically resync when they are pointed back to the screen the 'Chinese ones' do not and the button needs to be pressed.

A negative about the VIPs is that they are not rechargeable the others are. Not a big deal but a consideration. I have had to replace the battery only once in 100 hrs of viewing. Secondly, The VIPs are double the price (roughly) than the Chinese ones. I do not think that they are that much different but I use them in preference to the Chinese ones. But I would happily use them and I have done some testing with the same footage using both and the colours, light level etc are identical to my perception.

Personally, I find the VIPs just very slightly more comfortable but there is not much in it. When I buy some more glasses I will be purchasing the 'Chinese ones'.

I hope this information is helpful.
post #404 of 798
Thanks, appreciate your help. I think I'll buy a couple of the Chinese ones and perhaps later buy some tvcorp ones to compare. If Daniel is right it would seem to be a good investment anyway at some point
Loving this forum, very helpful!
post #405 of 798
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Originally Posted by nzchurbro View Post

Thanks for all the research that has gone on to helping people on this thread. I think ive read it all twice trying to work out what to buy.
I've brought some cheaper 144hz glasses as spares or when we have guests, but I am trying to nail down what to get as the primary glasses. Now before everyone goes "buy the truedepths or the D3s or even the monoprice ones you moron havent you read anything"... there is the issue of not living anywhere near the states (live in NZ). Shipping costs are insane. At the end of the day I will buy these glasses if everyone reckons they are head and shoulders above anything else but basically here is what I have narrowed my search to...

The 3dtvcorp glasses


The VIP glasses


And some Chinese glasses that could potentially do the job

OZreddog - youve had experience with some of these - any suggestions? Again Im prepared to buy others but im wondering whether one of these stick out as good options

Maybe I can help.

I bought the 3DTV glasses you mentioned above. Shipping to Oceania (like OZreddog) was ~US$40 for the 3 pairs. I also bought 4 pairs of the Siansonics for US$100 with free shipping.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/4-SainSonic-New-144Hz-tech-BenQ-3D-DLP-Link-Projector-Active-Shutter-Glasses-/251129240877?pt=AU_3D_Glasses&hash=item3a78781d2d

The former are non-rechargables but do come with one spare battery each. They do lose sync less frequently upon turning head but recover very quickly without needing to push the power buttons. However, I find that very occasionally the glasses would flicker in and out of 3D mode even when I didn't turn my head away from the screen. Having said that I seem to be using them a lot more. My experience with the 3dTV is that they are a bit better than the Siansonics. The PQ with Legends of the Guardians 3D is very sharp. But as with all active 3D glasses PQ is darker.

I did buy a pair from the 3rd eBay seller you linked but a different model. They sent me a 120Hz model instead of the 144Hz one they advertised. They wanted me to send it back but I wrote back to tell them of the high cost of shipping back...LOL, $17 postage back for something that cost me $25 for correcting their mistake! They are sending the correct pair free of charge, but still waiting after 2 weeks!
post #406 of 798
Thanks - Ive just pulled the trigger on the Chinese ones. I will let people know what I think, but as Ive got nothing to compare them to I don't know how helpful I'll be. I think the next purchase will be the 3dtv ones, and we'll go from there.
Damm shipping costs mad.gif making life difficult for us Oceania folk
post #407 of 798
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Originally Posted by OZReddog View Post

I also purchased similar glasses from china which I find very close indeed and less than half the price.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281071032288?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

They are worth considering as these will be the ones I will purchase in future.

Having only just purchased my W1070, as per OZReddog's post here I've picked a set of (two of) these ones he linked for now. Don't really have the money to purchase any higher quality ones just yet, they'll have to wait until a month or two. Then I'll grab either a couple D3's or the 3dTV corps, most seem to be saying they're the best.

And yeah, I concur what other Aussies have been saying about shipping costs for us. It really does make life difficult when trying to get a hold of the good brand stuff.
post #408 of 798
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Originally Posted by shaft65 View Post

I have just received two pairs of the v3.5 TrueDepths from Daniel.

They are fantastic at 144Hz and 120Hz compared to my Sainsonics. The colours are far truer and brighter and the focus and sharpness is like the difference between night and day in comparison.

A couple of warnings to UK readers though, firstly, shipping is about £23 and I got stung a further £15 by customs! Also, they don't work well at 50Hz when watching SKY 3D. They constantly lose sync and flash regularly.

Fortunately I don't have a regular SKY box (not sure how they would work with a regular SKY box) and have tweeked mine to work at 60Hz, this now works flawlessly.

I have emailed Daniel about this, he said:

"I checked with the engineer and the 2D/3D glasses were based off of the 3.5 beta version which was designed for the w1070 running at 144hz. The regular version (non-2D) has now been updated to work better with 100hz and 120hz TVs, but the 2D/3D version still does not apparently. I will speak with the engineer about updating this, though I know this cannot be done by the user- we will need to exchange the glasses for you."

Not sure if I will take up Daniel's offer because of the postage involved but if you are in the US and are dithering over what glasses to buy, I along with many others would thoroughly recommend these.

Hi 'shaft65', I'm just back from a holiday in Florida and I bought a couple of pairs of the True Depths v3.5 when I was out there. I wish I'd read your post above before buying them!!.... I've just tried to watch some Sky 3D and sure enough I'm getting constant loss of sync and flashing, aaarrgghhh! It's frustrating because they work great at 24p/144hz from blu-ray on the PS3. So it must be due to the 50hz Sky output. Anyway, I need glasses that work on both the Sky box and the PS3 - I'd rather avoid sending them back to the US given the postage cost so thought you might be interested in buying them? Feel free to get in touch if you're interested, and no worries at all if you're not.

For anyone reading this thread regarding performance of the True Depths versus the Sainsonics. I can only judge based on comparing about 50 hours worth of using the Sainsonics and 30 mins using the True Depths on blu-ray PS3 content/games, but to my eyes (and my family's) there's little difference between them in the colour, the brightness, the loss of sync (both don't lose sync at all in our experience) and the blocking of the red flash. I'd said in my earlier post that the Sainsonics absolutely block out the red flash but with further viewing I agree with others' comments that there is still some red that seeps through on blacks e.g. top and bottom borders on 2:85-1 movies. This red tinting was there with the True Depths too though. Regarding comfort, I found the True Depths to be much more comfortable around the head and nose (and this was without trying any of the additional nosepieces) and reckon I could wear them for 2 hours at a time without a problem. This is unlike the Sainsonics where they're too tight on the side of my head and pressing on my nose whereby I want to take them off after 15 mins. My son, however, still much prefers the fit of the Sainsonics. He reckoned the True Depths were too big and heavy in comparison. Personal taste (and head size!) I guess. One final note on the comparison is in the 'quality feel' of the glasses. For me the True Depths are definitely the winner on this front. The quality of the plastic, the contouring of the plastic and the movement of the arms all feel significantly better than the Sainsonics.

So most of the above is the opposite of what most other folks have found when comparing the Sainsonics to other glasses, but just thought it was worth I'd adding my subjective experience.

I also bought the latest version of the 3DTV Corps when I was in the US, I've not had a chance to test them out yet (3D viewing and jet lag don't go well together!), but will add my thoughts on them on this thread soon.
post #409 of 798
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I just received the new 3D DLP Link glasses and the ones Amazon is now shipping the new ones. The 3D-Tv ones model number is DLP 2 Pro and right on the box under compatible frequency it states 96/100/120/144.

These are in fact the same as the Monoprice ones they also support the 144hz frequency. I just received these from Amazon a few days ago and two pairs sell for $58 shipped. I have tested them and they work great.
I do know that 3d-Tv did previously sell the older version but it seems that the new DLP-2 Pros are the ones shipping now and are the 2013 design. The same is true with the True Depth and 3DActive rechargeable glasses being made by the same manufacturer.
The True Depth and 3DActive even have the same model number on them.

This is the link I used for the 3D0TV DLP 2 Pro 144k glasses on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004G2VJM6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I also let Monoprice know that there glasses are now more expensive.

Thanks for your suggestions about glasses. I recall you mentioning that there were two brands that you like, which are about the same price. I can't seem to find that posting. One brand is the 144hz 3DActive and another brand (maybe it was the True Depth).

Is there one brand which you've found is best? I bought a couple of pairs of the cheap Chinese glasses from a vendor on eBay that really suck. They lose the sync all the time - and they keep reversing the sync as well.

If you have a suggestion of what you think is a great buy - that would be helpful.

Thanks.


Ian
post #410 of 798
Received this from the seller:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-3D-DLP-Link-Glasses-BenQ-TS500-TS5275-W626-W700-W710ST-W1070-Projector-/310612893962?pt=US_Video_Glasses&hash=item4851f8a10a

He sent me the wrong one (non-144Hz) earlier and wanted me to return that. I baulked when he asked me to return the wrong one...($17 for return postage!) and he kindly send me the new one free of charge. So far after watching KungFu Panda 2, it hasn't lost sync when I turn my head. Nor red flash so far.

Regarding the ND2 67mm filter, I wish I had bought the 67mm adapter and the 72mm filter. The 67 filter sits too far into the whatsitsnamethingy!
post #411 of 798
Decided to suck it up and grab a pair of the BenQ D3s for myself. Image quality and sync wise they seem great. That said, I'm pretty surprised at how heavy and uncomfortable they are. It's possible I've just been spoiled by the LG passives, but these D3s might be going back. Are the True Depths any lighter?
post #412 of 798
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Originally Posted by THe_Flash View Post

Decided to suck it up and grab a pair of the BenQ D3s for myself. Image quality and sync wise they seem great. That said, I'm pretty surprised at how heavy and uncomfortable they are. It's possible I've just been spoiled by the LG passives, but these D3s might be going back. Are the True Depths any lighter?

Yeah thats why I ended up going for the 3dTVcorp not only are they very close to matching picture quality of the D3 but they are a lot more comfortable then the D3 for a fraction of the price.
post #413 of 798
A quick question... I can get a pair of theses Sharp glasses at a good price.

AN-3DG30

http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-AN3DG30-Active-3D-Glasses/dp/B009LDVUS8

Will they work with the Benq W1070?
Edited by Imagoing - 4/26/13 at 8:03pm
post #414 of 798
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Originally Posted by Imagoing View Post

A quick question... I can get a pair of theses Sharp glasses at a good price.

AN-3DG30

http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-AN3DG30-Active-3D-Glasses/dp/B009LDVUS8

Will they work with the Benq W1070?

They will NOT work as they are for Sharp brand 3DTVs and not for DLP-Link projectors, from what I can see. Why bother, there are better options and better prices. See earlier posts, read read and read some more.

1st Principle: to work with the W1070 the glasses MUST be DLP-Link
2nd Principle: the glasses must be 144Hz not 120Hz or any other variant.
post #415 of 798
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Originally Posted by OZReddog View Post

They will NOT work as they are for Sharp brand 3DTVs and not for DLP-Link projectors, from what I can see. Why bother, there are better options and better prices. See earlier posts, read read and read some more.

1st Principle: to work with the W1070 the glasses MUST be DLP-Link
2nd Principle: the glasses must be 144Hz not 120Hz or any other variant.
Thanks, with advice I gleaned here, I ended up buying two pairs of these for $44.00 shipped... any opinions on their quality and whether they will fit over regular glasses?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261202566699&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160
post #416 of 798
Well guys I think Im done with getting updates from this thread but feel free to drop me a message.
post #417 of 798
Hi
I have read your threads with great interest and it seems to me that 3dTVcorp glasses currently is a good buy for W1070 - but wich one is the best ?

This ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BJAN69M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FTN8U0TJVR2G

or this ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004S50YA4/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FTN8U0TJVR2G

Again thanks for your insights
post #418 of 798
Anyone recommend what works good for a 6 and 8 average size kid glasses? The 3dtv corp ones cost way more than the adult ones. Was hoping for a good 20-$25 recommendation. Thanks
post #419 of 798
Hi, I've been reading this thread but most of it is related with US glasses, what are the best options for all of us in the EU? I'm from Spain so I would like to know what can I import within the EU to avoid custom taxes. I already have one pair of SainSonic but Im not too happy with them, I use it mostly for Nvidia 3d tv play and I get weird blue ghosting from time to time, and I have to turn them off and on until they work. However they work great with the PS3 but I don't use my PS3 a lot since 3d games are terrible most of the time, so any suggestions about what are the best glasses to get here in EU?
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