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post #421 of 800
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Originally Posted by maolen View Post

are these the monoprice 3d glasses that works for W1070?

http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=109&cp_id=10909&cs_id=1090903&p_id=9459&seq=1&format=2#description

Per some of the reviews they wor.k with W1070...
I am going to order me a set to test with my new w1080st.
post #422 of 800
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Originally Posted by Imagoing View Post

Thanks, with advice I gleaned here, I ended up buying two pairs of these for $44.00 shipped... any opinions on their quality and whether they will fit over regular glasses?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261202566699&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160
BUMP
post #423 of 800
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

Today I received the 3 new sets of glasses that are supposed to be 144Hz compatible. From left to right:

Sainsonic 144Hz
TrueDepth new 144Hz version
Benq 5J.J3925.001 (rechargeable)

Benq 5J.J7K25.001 "D3" (non-rechargeable)
...

The Benq "D3" is hands-down the best! It has the brightest image, and provides the best colors and contrast. No red tint on black either.
...

Sainsonic, as I have mentioned before, would lose L/R sync once in a while, therefore it is not children-friendly. It also doesn't block red tint on black completely.

I have compared Sainsonic 144Hz glasses with BenQ non-rechargeable glasses and can report the same experience as kelvink when using a BenQ W1070 projector.

The Sainsonic rechargeables:
  • do not block the red tint completely - this is quite noticeable where the picture content includes blacks and near blacks
  • have less contrast, and less rich colour, than the BenQs
  • have only a 50% chance of synching with correct Left Right sequencing
  • can lose synch sequencing if the wearer glances away from the screen for more than a few seconds [only 50% chance of re-establishing correct synch sequence]

If the synch sequencing is wrong, the button on the glasses needs to be pushed to toggle to the correct sequencing. Children and inexperienced adults may have trouble telling whether the glasses are operating with correct 3D sequencing, unless the 3D picture content includes a clear foreground object at the same time as a clear background object.

The advantage of the Sainsonics at this point in time is price. In Australia, currently, BenQ non-rechargeable 144Hz glasses are AU$149, whereas I was able to order the Sainsonics from China for AU$25, postage included; and they arrived in Australia within a few days of being ordered.

If we have guests, they can wear the BenQ glasses. We will make do with the Sainsonics, and press the button if the synch sequence is wrong, as it will be 50% of the time when the glasses are exposed to a 3D video from a BenQ W1070 projector!

The inability of the Sainsonics to automatically synch with correct Left Right sequence was not limited to 1920x1080p24 Blu-ray (144Hz). I found it also to be the case with 1280x720p 3D Blu-ray (120Hz), and 1920x1080i50 side by side coverage of 3D highlights of the 2012 London Olympics, as broadcast in Australia (100Hz).

So, mixed feelings about the Sainsonics. They are definitely a compromise.

The 144Hz experience

Have to say the 144Hz of the BenQ W1070 projector in 24p frame-packed 3D mode is superb to watch: for my eyes a distinct improvement in smoothness over 120Hz shutter glasses 3D.
post #424 of 800
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Originally Posted by Lped View Post

Hi
I have read your threads with great interest and it seems to me that 3dTVcorp glasses currently is a good buy for W1070 - but wich one is the best ?

This ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BJAN69M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FTN8U0TJVR2G

or this ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004S50YA4/ref=ox_sc_act_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1FTN8U0TJVR2G

Again thanks for your insights

We have four pair of the glasses at the first link, the light weight rechargables. That's all we have, so there is nothing to compare them too. They fit well over prescription glasses. There is a slight hint of red on the black blank screen that my BD player displays as it is setting up (just as the W1070 is detecting 3D), but this does not seem detectable in black areas (night scenes) during movie play. They provide good 3D depth/pop as well as a good picture.

Across the four, there is some variation. Two of the sets syncs properly at the start every time, and have left the room and returned a number of times and resynced properly. Another pair usually starts with an inverted sync every time, but stays synced when reversed and is more sensitive to turning away from the screen for longer periods of time. I wear this pair. The other pair is somewhere in between, that is, starts out synced properly, but I think is more sensitive to turning away any length of time.

I'd buy more when needed, but, I don't know what I might be missing. These started out as cheap starter sets, after which I was going to buy at least one pair of the BenQ D3's, but, that is on hold indefinitely at this point. Three for less than the price of one was hard to beat! Maybe someday.
post #425 of 800
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Originally Posted by GeroJ View Post

These started out as cheap starter sets, after which I was going to buy at least one pair of the BenQ D3's, but, that is on hold indefinitely at this point. Three for less than the price of one was hard to beat! Maybe someday.
I ordered the 3DTV Corps 2-pack after having purchased the BenQ D3s. I can't imagine sitting through an entire 2hr film with the D3s on my face. I'm genuinely willing to sacrifice the picture quality of the D3s for something that simply doesn't hurt my nose.
post #426 of 800
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Originally Posted by THe_Flash View Post

I ordered the 3DTV Corps 2-pack after having purchased the BenQ D3s. I can't imagine sitting through an entire 2hr film with the D3s on my face. I'm genuinely willing to sacrifice the picture quality of the D3s for something that simply doesn't hurt my nose.

Wow! That doesn't sound good at all for the D3. Thanks for the perspective.
post #427 of 800
i just recieved my true depth's, they are much better than the sansonics. no red tint, no sync loss(i didn't have any sync loss with the sansonics), but 3d seems much better with the true depths well worth the money.
post #428 of 800
Hi! can somebody recommend the right 3d Glasses for W1070 apart from Benq.Can i go with Sainsonic or True Depth? or 3D corp confused.In fact i wear prescription glasses need one of them to fit on top
Tks
post #429 of 800
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Originally Posted by muks1224 View Post

Hi! can somebody recommend the right 3d Glasses for W1070 apart from Benq.Can i go with Sainsonic or True Depth? or 3D corp confused.In fact i wear prescription glasses need one of them to fit on top
Tks

I have the SainSonics, Generic and 3DTV Corp ones. The 3DTVs are ~US$87 (for 3 pairs) and IIRC free shipping within the USA. The Chinese sellers wants ~US$25 for each pair but theirs are rechargeables, unlike the 3DTVs which uses coin batteries. However, I would recommend the 3DTVs. It cost me a fair bit more each as they charge over $40 for shipping to Oceania. And that is IMHO.
post #430 of 800
Got my Monoprice glasses yesterday and I am very impressed with them. No issues whatsoever.., comfortable. smile.gif Just gotta keep spare batteries around.
Well the only thing I haven't figured out is per their instruction there should be a LED light above power button.., but on mine there is a hole that doesn't look like has any LED light to indicate power status.
post #431 of 800
So when you guys say most of these glasses block the red flash "well", what does that mean? Does it block it completely so you can get blacks as good as with other types of glasses?

I tried out the Sainsonic glasses with another projector that used a white flash and was very unimpressed with how all the blacks turned to grey, so now I'm a bit skeptical of DLP-link (compared to RF).
post #432 of 800
with the better 3d glasses the blacks look black. and it is awesome
post #433 of 800
Hello everybody.

First, thank you all for this thread, it helped me a lot for choosing my glasses.

After reading all the 14 pages of this thread, I went with the 3dtv corp. glasses. 3d glasses

I tested them with 3 movies: The Avengers, The lion king and The Hobbit.

First, I have to say that those 3 movies are spectacular in 3d. Especially the lion king because it's a 2d animation film. So the w1070 is really great for 3d projection and the 3dtv corp. glasses are also great.

They are really light and comfortable. They go well with prescription glasses. They are battery powered and charge in less than an hour. The glasses are not too dark. The loss of luminosity is not too big and they block the red in the main picture. (Notice some red outside the picture).

But I have a sync problem with some movies. They lose the synch when the picture is to bright. This problem is present when you have explosion or bright color. In the final scene of avengers, I had to use the middle button of the glasses every 5 minutes.
Am I the only one that has this problem? Somebody knows how to fix that? Because I really like those glasses and I’m in Switzerland, so sending them back will be expensive and quite long.
post #434 of 800
I just picked up these from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/3DTV-Corp-DLP-LINK-Projectors-Mitsubishi/dp/B004G2VJM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367594964&sr=8-1&keywords=3dtv+glasses

Question, they sync well and are pretty comfortable, however, I'm not getting the "pop" of seeing the image at the tip of my nose and they seem a little dark.
I'm viewing my 3D content off HD cable, HBO 3D and Starz 3D, is that the problem right there? Is there a noticeable difference between those sources and a 3D BD? I'm assuming "Well, duh, yea!" but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks.
post #435 of 800
I just received those glasses this week too spoll, I also ordered from Amazon. I haven't had any extensive time to play and test, but a few minutes of switching between the BenQ D3s and the 3DTV glasses on Avengers and Life of Pi yielded no blatant differences in terms of 3D pop.
post #436 of 800
Flash, keep us updated when you have time to mess around with them, thanks!
post #437 of 800
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Originally Posted by spoll View Post

I just picked up these from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/3DTV-Corp-DLP-LINK-Projectors-Mitsubishi/dp/B004G2VJM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367594964&sr=8-1&keywords=3dtv+glasses

Question, they sync well and are pretty comfortable, however, I'm not getting the "pop" of seeing the image at the tip of my nose and they seem a little dark.
I'm viewing my 3D content off HD cable, HBO 3D and Starz 3D, is that the problem right there? Is there a noticeable difference between those sources and a 3D BD? I'm assuming "Well, duh, yea!" but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Thanks.

The Pop depends upon the source. Many films do not have that much pop. Try Sammy's Adventure if you really want to see pop. I have compared these glasses to others and the light output seems similar. These glasses block the red flash much better than the SanSonic's
post #438 of 800
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Originally Posted by bigfi View Post

I went with the 3dtv corp. glasses. 3d glasses

I tested them with 3 movies: The Avengers, The lion king and The Hobbit.

They are really light and comfortable. They go well with prescription glasses. ...

But I have a sync problem with some movies. They lose the synch when the picture is to bright. ... explosion or bright color.

Am I the only one that has this problem? Somebody knows how to fix that?

Hello bigfi. I have those glasses and agree with your comment about them and the W1070. I have not had the issue of sync reversal during very bright scenes, although, I have not seen the 3 movies you mention. Avengers is on my short list, so I will be looking out for that issue.

How many pair do you have? If more than one, do all pair do the same on bright scenes?
post #439 of 800
double post ....
post #440 of 800
Hi bigfi,

Sorry to tell you this but I have had a pair of these for a number of months now and they have never lost sync once when pointed at the screen. I have used them to watch approximately 20 movies including all three movies you list and no problem what so ever. I can even leave the glasses on the table, losing sync and they rapidly and automatically resync as soon as they are pointed back at the screen.

SO, I would say that you have a very very faulty pair and have no choice but to contact the supplier to arrange a replacement. Regarding postage costs the supplier should pay for them to be returned and to send you a replacement as they are faulty, ask them![/quote]
post #441 of 800
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Originally Posted by OZReddog View Post

I also purchased similar glasses from china which I find very close indeed and less than half the price.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281071032288?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

They are worth considering as these will be the ones I will purchase in future.

As an update to my original post where I also quoted this, my purchase of these two arrived.

While I've got nothing else to compare them to, they're pretty good 3d glasses, all in all. One of them takes a few moments to sync, but it doesn't take long, and the quality of the 3d is really rather good. I'll buy some more expensive ones in a couple weeks, but I'll be happy to wear these cheaper ones for when I have guests over. Two of them delivered for $55AU kicks the crap out of $150AU per single Benq D3, that's for damn sure smile.gif
post #442 of 800
Hey guys i just recieved my Benq D3 glasses. Before i had sainsonic 144hz. The sainsonics for me completely block red flash and they are very good and great value. I was hessitant to invest in almost 4times the price for the D3's becuase when used with my optoma HD33, the sainsonics perform almost as good as optomas RF glasses. So i thought will these really be an improvement.

I can confirm what others have reported. The D3 are better than the sainsonics. They are shaper, better contrast (+10~20%), brighter (+10%), colours more vibrant (+10~20%), skin tones look much more natural. I feel really let down by benq for not providing these glasses with the projector. Here in the UK the D3's are impossible to findeaving me to import from US.

All the improvments above lead to a picture where the 3D layering is just that extra little bit better than with the sainsonics, producing a better sense of depth and pop. The combined PQ improvement is only in the +20~30% to my guestimate, but it moves the w1070 3D image from "good but missing somthing", to very natural and great.

I highly recommend these glasses.

However mine leak in the red flash on dark scenes, especially in the bottom corner of each lens, have anyone else experienced this?
post #443 of 800
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Originally Posted by Devedander View Post

Thanks but a large part of the 3D conversion I would want covered is for TV and video games that don't have native 3D mode. If I undersatnd correctly that oppo doesn't convert non disc based content?

If youre mostly playing pc games, look into something called tridef, which turns most non 3d games into 3d and does a darn good job.
post #444 of 800
Okay, so, I don't know if it's this way with the other glasses, but on occasion during playback, I've had to press the button on my Chinese ones to swap the left and right images. I don't know why it happened, but I was watching Avatar through my HTPC, and about half an hour in I'd noticed the 3D had gone a little strange, like as if the L and R had become misaligned. Pressing this corrected the problem, but then it happened again after another 20 or so minutes.

Is this a problem that happens with anyone else? I'm kinda hoping perhaps it's unique to my setup, maybe using it with the HTPC that does this, but if I have the folks over for a movie in 3D, it's really not something I'm going to want to have to worry about.
post #445 of 800
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Originally Posted by GeroJ View Post

Hello bigfi. I have those glasses and agree with your comment about them and the W1070. I have not had the issue of sync reversal during very bright scenes, although, I have not seen the 3 movies you mention. Avengers is on my short list, so I will be looking out for that issue.

How many pair do you have? If more than one, do all pair do the same on bright scenes?

I have two pair of those glasses. Normaly I tried with the two of them but I'm not realy sure. I will do new test.

Also, my configuration is, I project on a white sheet at 3m (9.94ft). My head is juste above the projector.


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Originally Posted by Venturai View Post

Okay, so, I don't know if it's this way with the other glasses, but on occasion during playback, I've had to press the button on my Chinese ones to swap the left and right images. I don't know why it happened, but I was watching Avatar through my HTPC, and about half an hour in I'd noticed the 3D had gone a little strange, like as if the L and R had become misaligned. Pressing this corrected the problem, but then it happened again after another 20 or so minutes.

Is this a problem that happens with anyone else? I'm kinda hoping perhaps it's unique to my setup, maybe using it with the HTPC that does this, but if I have the folks over for a movie in 3D, it's really not something I'm going to want to have to worry about.

It's exactly the problem I have with my glasses from 3dtv corp. Lost sync and invert left and right when a too bright seen appear.
post #446 of 800
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Originally Posted by bigfi View Post

It's exactly the problem I have with my glasses from 3dtv corp. Lost sync and invert left and right when a too bright seen appear.

Thanks. I've damn near read through this whole thread, and the more I'm hearing about the 3dtv's, the more it sounds like they're really not all that crash hot. When finances permit, it's likely I'll just splurge on a couple D3's and see how they are.
post #447 of 800
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Originally Posted by kelvink View Post

UPDATE: Here's a mini-review comparing a few 144Hz DLP-link glasses on W1070.


This thread is to attempt to gather information on owner's confirmation on compatible DLP-Link 3D Glasses that work with the new Benq W1070 for 1080p/24fps 3D HDMI input signal. Please note that only 1080p/24fps input mode is relevant here, as all DLP-link 3D glasses will work with the rest of the modes (1080i, 720p, etc)

The following are confirmed:

Compatible:
Ebay Sainsonic 144Hz Glasses
Benq 5J.J7K25.001

NOT Compatible:
Sainsonic White 120Hz Glasses

ALL the above glasses block red flash, and there is no noticeable ghost/crosstalk. Both Sainsonic would lose L/R sync once in a while and require re-syncing by pressing the button (an incident that made my daughter nauseous last night). The benq has the best overall image quality.

 

I don't know much about 3d, how do I tell if any 3D blueray disk is "1080p/24fps input mode" or not?

 

thanks!

post #448 of 800
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Originally Posted by bigfi View Post

I have two pair of those glasses. Normaly I tried with the two of them but I'm not realy sure. I will do new test.

Also, my configuration is, I project on a white sheet at 3m (9.94ft). My head is juste above the projector.
It's exactly the problem I have with my glasses from 3dtv corp. Lost sync and invert left and right when a too bright seen appear.
I haven't had this happen with my 3DTV Corps glasses. Can you reference a time stamp on a film that always (or almost always) causes this, or is it random?
post #449 of 800
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Originally Posted by Venturai View Post

Thanks. I've damn near read through this whole thread, and the more I'm hearing about the 3dtv's, the more it sounds like they're really not all that crash hot. When finances permit, it's likely I'll just splurge on a couple D3's and see how they are.

There are more than one model of 3dTV glasses. Older generation glasses seem to not autosync and may have sync issues. Then there is a current generation lightweight rechargable that does not block red tint well and a 2032 battery model that generally has favorable reviews.
post #450 of 800
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Originally Posted by Imagoing View Post

Thanks, with advice I gleaned here, I ended up buying two pairs of these for $44.00 shipped... any opinions on their quality and whether they will fit over regular glasses?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=261202566699&ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:3160
Well, they arrived today, and guess what... they work perfectly! My wife was VERY impressed, (jumped when startling objects and animals came flying out of the screen at her) when we watched out first 3D movie on the W1070, (Life of Pi) but I discovered something discouraging. With my astigmatism, I can't see in 3D very well as my left eye has very poor vision, even with corrective lens. Darn!

I should have known, as I don't have binocular vision either... does anyone want to buy a pair of great glasses, used once for about 1 hour? I think we're going to have to stick with 2D as we can't watch the same movie at the same time.

They are light weight, fit easily over our regular glasses, seem quite well made, block red perfectly and never lost their sync at all. They are an inexpensive and likely fine alternative to more expensive offerings, although to be fair I haven't compared them to any others directly.
Edited by Imagoing - 5/6/13 at 10:05pm
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