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post #601 of 799
Just to give you some ideas of how these 2 glasses compare. Both are from ebay. One is the $17 Sansonic, the other is the $30 no name brand. I hate it not have a brand, so let's just call it New144.



As I said above, these 2 glasses have very similar image quality.

I used the same manual exposure and white balance on these shots.

This is a reference shot without the glass. You can see clearly the top black bar is very red.


This is New144.


This is Sansonic.


I have to adjust 1.5 gammar on the 2 glass photos because they are too dark. Between them, I would say the New144 is ever so slightly more contrasty. In term of red block, they are exactly the same. Also note that the difference is much smaller when viewed by eye.
Edited by hotjt133 - 9/12/13 at 9:49am
post #602 of 799
When it comes to value for money, the Sainsonic is a league of its own. I can't find any other glass in the below $20 category.

I wish to try some highly regarded glasses such as dimension optics and others. But from this experience I highly suspect they are probably much the same and I certainly don't want to waste money any more.
post #603 of 799
Where are you finding the sub-$20 Sainsonics? Amazon has it for $21 (I'm assuming the ones that work are the Rainbow Series?): http://www.amazon.com/SainSonic-Economical-UNIVERSAL-Rechargeable-Panasonic/dp/B00BT7H5GA/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1379259886&sr=8-14&keywords=sainsonic+3d+glasses

Sainsonic themselves sell them for $27: http://www.sainsonic.com/3d-active-glasses/3d-for-dlp/sainsonic-144hz-brand-new-3d-active-rechargable-shutter-glasses-for-benq-w1070.html

I'm looking to buy 3-4 pairs of glasses for my BenQ W1070 fairly quick and after an hour or so on this thread am ready to pull the trigger on the Sainsonics. Would appreciate advice on best place to purxchase them and any new alternatives that have emerged in the budget (sub $20) range.

Thanks.

- Rajiv
post #604 of 799
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Originally Posted by rvaidyan View Post

Where are you finding the sub-$20 Sainsonics? Amazon has it for $21 (I'm assuming the ones that work are the Rainbow Series?): http://www.amazon.com/SainSonic-Economical-UNIVERSAL-Rechargeable-Panasonic/dp/B00BT7H5GA/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1379259886&sr=8-14&keywords=sainsonic+3d+glasses

Sainsonic themselves sell them for $27: http://www.sainsonic.com/3d-active-glasses/3d-for-dlp/sainsonic-144hz-brand-new-3d-active-rechargable-shutter-glasses-for-benq-w1070.html

I'm looking to buy 3-4 pairs of glasses for my BenQ W1070 fairly quick and after an hour or so on this thread am ready to pull the trigger on the Sainsonics. Would appreciate advice on best place to purxchase them and any new alternatives that have emerged in the budget (sub $20) range.

Thanks.

- Rajiv
I have 5 pair for sale in the classifieds.
post #605 of 799
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Originally Posted by rvaidyan View Post

Where are you finding the sub-$20 Sainsonics?

Try ebay
post #606 of 799
Wow, I found the perfect 3D glasses for projector BENQ W1070 they block perfectly red. Black looks black and is very comfortable. My brother bought the glasses for is projector OPTOMA
And I take them to try and i was very impressed. I bought 3d glasses of sainsonic and I see red on black 3d always looks red and it suck, so important to me that you read it here and not do the mistake I did Here Link for the glasses http://www.ultimate3dheaven.com/uldlpliwi3dg.html
post #607 of 799
I recently bought three different sets of glasses to use with our w1070. We have a 120" 2.0 gain screen, so generally picture brightness isn't an issue and all the glasses sync up quickly. Here's some feedback that I haven't seen elsewhere:

TrueDepth FireStorm LT: This is newly introduced model, but from appearance look similar to the Saisonics I've seen advertised on Ebay (although I don't know if there are any internal design changes). For me it was worth a few extra bucks to order from a "real" company through Amazon, rather than take my chances with Ebay. They work just fine with the w1070: no sync issues, no red shift, good picture. They're very light, but also don't seem as sturdy as the other glasses discussed below. My only issue is that the nose bridge uses a pair of adjustable metal prongs with a rubber cover: they didn't fit well over my glasses, and even without glasses sit higher and further forward than I would prefer.

DimensionalOptics/TrueDepth 3.5: I'm reviewing these together because they appear to be the same design from the same factory. However, there are some differences:

- The DimensionalOptics glasses have a metallic-dark-silver color with subdued orange lettering on the side. The TrueDepth glasses have a shiny piano-black color with white lettering on the side, and a very slightly modified area around the hinge to incorporate a stylized logo in the plastic. Neither of these would in any way affect performance, but I found the DimensionalOptics glasses to be slightly better looking.

- The DimensionalOptics glasses came with a nice padded case that's big enough to store the glasses and USB charging cable. The TrueDepth glasses came with a soft carry bag.

- Both glasses came with USB cable, cleaning cloth, and instructions. The TrueDepth instructions included information on switching the L/R sync, the DimensionalOptics instructions left this bit out (although they both function the exact same way). Neither set came with a USB charger.

- The TrueDepth glasses came with a set of snap-in different-sized nose pads, but the DimensionalOptics glasses only include the one pad shipped with the glasses. This was a huge dealbreaker for me, as the default pad put the glasses a little too high on my nose. I ended up taking one of the extra pads from the TrueDepth and putting it on the DimensionalOptics.

In summary, the TrueDepth 3.5 glasses ended up being the best for me due to the fit and addition of different sized nose pads.
post #608 of 799
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Originally Posted by andyraf View Post

In summary, the TrueDepth 3.5 glasses ended up being the best for me due to the fit and addition of different sized nose pads.

Can you provide a link where you got them. I'm sure others would be interested as well.

Thanks
post #609 of 799
post #610 of 799

in the minireview of different glasses it said that

"Benq J3925 is disappointing. The good thing about it is it's very light weight, and it didn't lose L/R sync during the test. It doesn't block red tint on black completely"

 

I see that my onlinestore now has "BenQ 3D Glasses 2", is it any new since the "2"? anyone now? (it do have the same productnumber 5J.J3925.001)

 

and are these so disapointing like said in the review? sorry if this has been answered before.

post #611 of 799
Guys, reading this thread over and over I still don't know what to do. I understand that you all are trying to figure out which 3d glasses are the best for the Benq but what if I'm not that interested in perfect 3d?

So if I am satisfied with the quality of downloaded 3d video files (SBS) do I still need the specific 144HZ glasses for the Benq or can I buy cheaper ones? (I just want to watch some 3d from time to time).
post #612 of 799
My active 3DTV Corp glasses (battery) work with BR 1080P on a Sony S590 + VP3D1 Viewsonic converter into a QUMI2 3D projector...

JYFI
post #613 of 799
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Originally Posted by jushfbc View Post

I have seen the rainbow series in the sainsonic website, anyone have used those, any good?

I bought one pair of the baby blue one's and they have been bad. They lose sync every time I use them, even when they're fully charged. I also have the other Sainsonic one's that cost a little more, along with a pair of TrueDepths. I definitely recommend the TrueDepths, it is worth paying more. There might even be a better brand than the TrueDepths that other's have used.
post #614 of 799
Liked my two pair of 3DTV Corp glasses enough to buy another two pair. Better would be any similar pair that do not darken the image. Another improvement perhaps more likely would be a small LED that went green for 2 seconds when they were turned on, red for two seconds when turned off. And,for some reason, they always come on reversed to what the projector default is... one could go cross-eyed trying to make sense of the opening scene in Avatar. That's when I learned I could set my projector L-R polarity to reversed. irst time i watched Avatar I and my wife wore the glasses upside-down and they were fine that way. Reason I'm writing about these glasses here is I am likely to buy the W1070 and already own 4 pair of 3DTV Corp glasses. I saw on Amazon that they were often bought together.

Cheers and have fun!
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post #615 of 799
I bought this projector 3 weeks ago and I love it. Regarding the 3D glasses I bought two different brands:

- BLUE HEAVEN from Hi-SHOCK (model: YDD3PG) (€57)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B009KTKETE/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

- Sainsonic Zodiac Serie 904 (€25)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0081JPABQ/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


I first tried the Blue Heaven 3D glasses. They are very light and fit nicely I think. The lenses themself are fairly big, which is positive. Blacks in the video are black, no red tinge at all. Once you turn your head away from the screen they turn off (or at least the 3D function of the glasses does not work). But as soon as you look back at the screen the 3D function of the glasses activates instantly.

Then I tried the Sainsonic Zodiac 3D glasses. They are a bit more bulky than the Blue Heaven ones, and maybe not as fashionable, but they still fit nicely. But when watching 3D I noticed there was a little bit of red tinge in the blacks. It's not much, and it certainly does not ruin the 3D experience. With these glasses once you turn your head away from the screen the 3D function still works (not sure how or why)

The brightness with both glasses is practically the same. I don't see any difference.

Both glasses come with a USB recharging cable, cleaning cloth and instruction manual.


I think the Blue Heaven 3D glasses are a bit better than the Sainsonic Zodiac ones, mainly because of the red tinge (I often look at details). But of course the price of the Sainsonic Zodiac glasses is far more less. All in all I would recommend the Blue Heaven 3D glasses, and not only because they look much cooler ;-)


If you have questions or remarks regarding my review, shoot ;-)
Edited by Tommy Mang - 10/26/13 at 11:36am
post #616 of 799
Looked up Blue Heaven 3D on Amazon. Price isn't that bad for 2 pair, just $80, so we're not talking serious money. I see they are rechargeable - so not to worry about batteries. But how do you know when the charge is low, and how do you know if they are "on" or "off" and not just 2D or 3D? They look to be very light which is always a plus. I never noticed any red tinge to dark scenes with the 3DTV Corp battery models.Of course I wasn't looking for it...

Nice short review! Made me look for more info and I may try a pair when I get a W1070 and plan to have company over...
post #617 of 799
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Originally Posted by JDAstro View Post

Looked up Blue Heaven 3D on Amazon. Price isn't that bad for 2 pair, just $80, so we're not talking serious money. I see they are rechargeable - so not to worry about batteries. But how do you know when the charge is low, and how do you know if they are "on" or "off" and not just 2D or 3D? They look to be very light which is always a plus. I never noticed any red tinge to dark scenes with the 3DTV Corp battery models.Of course I wasn't looking for it...

Nice short review! Made me look for more info and I may try a pair when I get a W1070 and plan to have company over...

Thanks ;-)

Regarding the battery being low, the green battery indicator blinks when the battery is drying (so it says in the manual)

Here are some more details about the Blue Heaven 3D glasses from Hi-SHOCK (model: YDD3PG):

- weight: 32g
- use range: about 10m
- contrast ratio: 1200:1
- power supply: polymer lithium battery
- working current: 1.9mA
- refreshing rate: 96Hz/100Hz/120Hz/144Hz
- charging time: 2-4 hours
- battery working time: 30 hours after a full charge
- the 3D glasses turn off automatically if it can not receive a sync signal for about 5 min.
Edited by Tommy Mang - 10/26/13 at 11:35am
post #618 of 799
Finally picked up a w1080st along with a pair of the 3DTV Corp glasses. They do block the red flash but there seems to be quite a bit of crosstalk, especially at the outer edge of the lenses. Most people might not notice since they sit further away but I bought into projection so I could get a picture that completely fills the lenses for max immersion and these glasses were falsely advertised as having no ghosting.

So, are all DLP glasses like this with crosstalk outside the center, or are there better ones out there? I'll definitely be wanting to exchange these if anyone can recommend a pair that actually does have zero crosstalk.
post #619 of 799
Has anyone used these 3DTV Kids glasses with the W1070?
http://amzn.com/B008SYLVXK
post #620 of 799
Also, I am debating between the 3DTV Corp glasses or the Dimension Optics. With Coupon the difference in cost is $116 for 4 pair for 3DTV and $166 for 4 pair of the DImensional Optics...
Price really isnt that big of a deal, but for those who have both, Do you prefer having battery or rechargeable glasses. One one hand I would like rechargeable because I could always recharge and never have to worry about it again. On the other hand, if the glasses drop out in the middle of the movie, it would be nice to pause it, put in a $.50 cent battery and keep on going.

Thanks guys, Want to go ahead and buy these already to show off the setup for a Thanksgiving get together.

Also, off topic for the thread, any 3D Blu-ray suggestions to show off the projector with?
post #621 of 799
Well, after reading this whole thread I think I'm going to try the True Depth Firestorm XL Premium glasses. Daniel at True Depth recommended them for fitting over prescription glasses. I was undecided until the price for a 2 pack on Amazon dropped below $100 today and then I noticed that there was also a 20% coupon. Add the ~$10 in store credit I had and that comes to right about $35 for each.

I guess I should start looking for a BluRay player and some movies now. LOL
post #622 of 799
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Originally Posted by farleyville View Post

Also, I am debating between the 3DTV Corp glasses or the Dimension Optics. With Coupon the difference in cost is $116 for 4 pair for 3DTV and $166 for 4 pair of the DImensional Optics...
Price really isnt that big of a deal, but for those who have both, Do you prefer having battery or rechargeable glasses. One one hand I would like rechargeable because I could always recharge and never have to worry about it again. On the other hand, if the glasses drop out in the middle of the movie, it would be nice to pause it, put in a $.50 cent battery and keep on going.

Thanks guys, Want to go ahead and buy these already to show off the setup for a Thanksgiving get together.

Also, off topic for the thread, any 3D Blu-ray suggestions to show off the projector with?

They are both very good. If you get the 20% off coupon from Dimensional Optics it could seal the deal. They also come with very nice cases and Dimensional Optics usually sends a charger if you order a few pairs directly from them.

The Blue Heaven are also nice and very light. Good fit over glasses.

All three block the red flash very well.
post #623 of 799
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Originally Posted by Imagoing View Post

Well, they arrived today, and guess what... they work perfectly! My wife was VERY impressed, (jumped when startling objects and animals came flying out of the screen at her) when we watched out first 3D movie on the W1070, (Life of Pi) but I discovered something discouraging. With my astigmatism, I can't see in 3D very well as my left eye has very poor vision, even with corrective lens. Darn!

I should have known, as I don't have binocular vision either... does anyone want to buy a pair of great glasses, used once for about 1 hour? I think we're going to have to stick with 2D as we can't watch the same movie at the same time.

They are light weight, fit easily over our regular glasses, seem quite well made, block red perfectly and never lost their sync at all. They are an inexpensive and likely fine alternative to more expensive offerings, although to be fair I haven't compared them to any others directly.
Hey folks, I still have these available if anyone's interested. Shoot me a PM.
post #624 of 799
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Originally Posted by Imagoing View Post

Hey folks, I still have these available if anyone's interested. Shoot me a PM.
Sorry your sight did not come through for you on the 3D. Which glasses are they? Are you selling the 3D projector as well?
post #625 of 799
I first got two pairs of 3DTV from ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Glasses-Samsung-Mitsubishi-Panasonic-Sharp-Samsung-Sony-etc-/160885864880?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25758b79b0), they are light and bright enoght for the Benq W1070, but gradually find that they are extremely prone to losing sync. Any, I mean any, bright scene and they're lost. They are also rechargeable, which I don't really like since it seems their battery don't hold much charge, regardless of specs. I don't know whether this has anything to do with their easy loss of sync, but if I recharged them, they can hold sync longer, however it is still too tedious to enjoy a movie where I have to adjust sync every minute or two so I decided to get something else, the Monoprice 109459 DLP-Link 3D Glasses arrived yesterday and what a difference, never once in the whole Star Trek: Into Darkness movie that they lost sync, I particularly tried them at the beginning of the movie where the scenes are very bright, and I like the fact that their batteries are replaceble.

Thanks for all who bought and tried and posted their experience with 3D glasses for the Benq in this thread. It helped me to have to go thru only two brands before hitting something good. smile.gif
post #626 of 799
Glad you found what suits you best. My battery powered 3DTV Corp glasses (model DLP2-2) do not lose synch, but as the battery wears on it might be difficult for them to get synched in the first place. I noticed one pair being a little more difficult to catch on to the last movie, but once synched, they lasted through the whole movie. My wife's pair had no problem with synch. Might replace the batteries today before they start giving me problems. We both wear glasses and these ok for me, but my wife just told me today hers keep slipping. I'll look into the 3DTV Corp clip-ons, probably pick up a pair this month if other reviews look good.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone else is having synch problems with the rechargeable set. Should be some interesting reviews on Amazon. The pair in your link look to be very light weight. Can you provide a model number of your 3dTV Corp glasses? There are two rechargeable 3DTV Corp models - DLPRM and DLPRL, and the clip-ons DLPRK.


A link to the pair we use:
http://www.amazon.com/3DTV-Corp-DLP-LINK-Projectors-Mitsubishi/dp/B004G2VJM6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1
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Originally Posted by distant30 View Post

I first got two pairs of 3DTV from ebay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/3D-Glasses-Samsung-Mitsubishi-Panasonic-Sharp-Samsung-Sony-etc-/160885864880?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25758b79b0), they are light and bright enoght for the Benq W1070, but gradually find that they are extremely prone to losing sync.

Thanks for all who bought and tried and posted their experience with 3D glasses for the Benq in this thread. It helped me to have to go thru only two brands before hitting something good. smile.gif

Edited by JDAstro - 11/6/13 at 3:16am
post #627 of 799
I was looking hard but there are no designation whatsoever on the glasses, that's the reason I put the ebay link in my post. They are pretty light but the monoprice is also very comfortable and i like their wrap around better than having none in the case of the 3dtv corp's. It make the picture more isolated from the surrounding.
post #628 of 799
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Originally Posted by JDAstro View Post

Glad you found what suits you best. My battery powered 3DTV Corp glasses (model DLP2-2) do not lose synch, but as the battery wears on it might be difficult for them to get synched in the first place. I noticed one pair being a little more difficult to catch on to the last movie, but once synched, they lasted through the whole movie. My wife's pair had no problem with synch. Might replace the batteries today before they start giving me problems. We both wear glasses and these ok for me, but my wife just told me today hers keep slipping. I'll look into the 3DTV Corp clip-ons, probably pick up a pair this month if other reviews look good.

It'll be interesting to see if anyone else is having synch problems with the rechargeable set. Should be some interesting reviews on Amazon. The pair in your link look to be very light weight. Can you provide a model number of your 3dTV Corp glasses? There are two rechargeable 3DTV Corp models - DLPRM and DLPRL, and the clip-ons DLPRK.


A link to the pair we use:
http://www.amazon.com/3DTV-Corp-DLP-LINK-Projectors-Mitsubishi/dp/B004G2VJM6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_1

The ebay ones from your link at the same as the black Sansonic glasses. Not great at blocking red flash. The Blue Heaven glasses in another post are light and block the red flash very well. 3DTV will be getting them under their own name in a few weeks I was told.
post #629 of 799
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Originally Posted by Imagoing View Post

Hey folks, I still have these available if anyone's interested. Shoot me a PM.
Perfect condition... used once for a few minutes. One black pair, one white pair. $50.00 shipped to anywhere in North America, OBO!
post #630 of 799

I joined the Avsforum just so I could take part in this discussion.

 

I currently own a Benq 1080ST and two pairs of 3DTVCorp DLP link glasses. Both were at a reasonable price. While I'm fairly happy with the projector I would NOT recommend the 3DTVCorp DLP link glasses.

 

- Sync: I'm very impressed with their ability to gain and keep sync, no issues with turning my head away from the screen and they even keep sync (or regain it quickly) when I leave my home theater room. (I don't have a bunch of ambient light in my home and my theater room's lighting is completely controlled)

 

- Cost: Dang, these were inexpensive. Two pairs for slightly more than what other companies were charging for one.

- Fit: They seem comfortable enough. Not as good as my Samsung active pairs for my plasma but they fit over my regular glasses good enough

 

- Performance: Here's where they fail for me and got me looking here and elsewhere for replacements. The glasses really have to be fairly parallel to the screen and centered (L-R, U-D) to work properly.

 

If your head is centered to the screen width AND height and you don't turn your head much (or at all) these glasses work fine. However if the center of the screen is higher (vertically) than your eyes you may (or WILL) get cross talk. If your seating placement is not centered (left-right) you'll get cross talk and redish blacks. Even if your perfectly centered (V/H) and your turn your head L-R, U-D you'll get cross talk and redish blacks.

 

I've even considered raising my chair up a few feet to help fix the problems, however that still leaves me with the Left-Right issue. The 1080ST is projecting a 100" image 7-9 feet away from where my head is while viewing it.

 

I'm planning on ordering a pair of the "v3.5" (forget the brand) mentioned earlier in this thread to see if they perform better.

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