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post #661 of 800
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Originally Posted by kludd323 View Post


No, I know what crosstalk is, I was saying that bright colors on a dark backdrop are what can cause crosstalk. And the convergence settings are for 3DTV Play, not the projector. DLP does have much less crosstalk than other technologies that use 3D glasses, but in all glasses I've seen there's always at least a little crosstalk (even if only at the edges) when you run them through the stress test of playing games with really deep 3D settings and heavy contrast, but that's what I bought a projector to do.

You're correct about the 3Active glasses though, I did accidentally order the non-144hz version now that I see Amazon has 2 different versions.

 

Sadly most 3D Bluerays (I own over 30) have such low 3D effect cooked into them that they are very a very poor choice to use to judge the quality of 3D eye wear.  Additionally scenes with very high contrast and large differences between the L/R pair may be brief and easily ignored.

 

I just got a pair of 'TrueDepth 3D' glasses which were marked 'v3.5' on their website and specifically tested/listed to be compatible with the Benq 1070, I compared them to my 3DTV pair's that I had gotten earlier and was disappointed with.

 

Using my 100" screen driven @ 720P by my Benq 1080ST and Nvidia 3DPlay software I booted up the opening screen of  "Skyrim" and then played a bit of "TombRaider2013" and switched my seating and the three pairs of glasses I have looking for ghosting and unblocked red sync on the black and white portions of the displayed images.

 

- "Skyrim" opening screen: a brightly lit high contrast object floating in 3D space is on the screen with a deep grey background. The 3DTV glasses can't handle this content unless I'm standing directly in front of the screen parallel to it. The left eye has some ghosting which turns much worse as I turn my head (~45D) to look at the edges of the screen. As I turn my head up/down or +/- 45D the red sync signal is easily visible. (then again we already knew that) Both pairs work equally poorly.

 

Switching to the "True Depth v3.5"s the image is improved and quite a bit better however still not quite perfect. Doing the same 45D view of the L/R edges of the screen will show very slight ghosting and a noticeable reddening of the screen but very minor. The "True Depth v3.5"s win this round.

 

- "TombRaider2013", I have the depth and convergence set so that the game menu floats 3-5' in front of the screen. The menu is BLACK and WHITE on a grayish background scene of a ocean beach during a storm. Again the 3DTV glasses were pathetic here. With the "True Depth v3.5" glasses on there was slight ghosting and reddish tint  at 45D (L-R) head turns (and beyond) but again they performed much better.

 

To conclude, unlike the "3DTV DLP2 Pro" glasses I'm happy with my purchase of the "True Depth v3.5"s so far. The single envelope sized flyer that came with them was not without some unneeded alarm. The flyer states that the glasses are designed for a "WHITE" sync signal and only list 120hz (not 144hz that the Benq's require). At first I thought they had sent me the wrong model however after testing with both games (TR2013 has some > 4" separation of high contrast elements) these seem to work.

 

I've yet to decide if I'll pick up another pair of "True Depth v3.5"s for guests or when the ones I use are charging or simply use the 3DTV ones for that or try yet another brand+model out.

post #662 of 800
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Originally Posted by farleyville View Post

Has anyone used these 3DTV Kids glasses with the W1070?
http://amzn.com/B008SYLVXK

Any feedback on these? Or any other kids 3D glasses for that matter?
post #663 of 800

Does anyone know what is the maximum number of glasses we can connect to 1080ST? Also, which is the best 3D glasses which are battery operated which work with this.

 

I have a 1080ST and want to use it for business and it is very inconvenient to charge the 3D glasses over USB all the time :-(.

 

Please suggest.

post #664 of 800
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Originally Posted by ztOctavian View Post

Hi Folks!




Some great suggestions and help on here for the glasses.



 



i nearly pulled the trigger on the True Depth 3D firestorm LT however too muich messing about with a mail forwarder to europe and the cost of shipping was €78 euro!!!   :O



 



I have ordered a pair of these!  "Lime Heaven"




http://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP




5th Gen!?




The blue Heaven i saw getting a mention so I though I would give these a go from Germany and 5 quid shipping in Europe worth a try.



I will post my findings.



Will be used with a Benq W1070 also on order.



 I will only be able to compare the new setup with a just sold Acer H5360BD with the Video Dimension zd glasses which worked flawlessly except a slight greenish tinge to the picture.



Fingers crossed! will take a week or so before I post back!



Stay Glassy!  wink.gif



Hi Shock - "Lime Green" DLP Pro 5th Gen - Specifications
===============================================================================
THE BRIGHTEST GLASSES ON THE MARKET WITH brilliant colors
thanks to the latest LCD technology with an ultra-fast Rektionszeit below 1.5 ms. one of the lightest goggles on the market. These glasses are 100% sync block. Black remains black. No red, white or greenish as with other DLP Link glasses. R / L is automatic detection. Glasses coated krazfest

ABSOLUTELY SILENT
Other DLP Link glasses cause the "shutters" clearly audible "hum". This series is thanks to the new LCD technology absolutely silent. So you can enjoy your movie smoothly and in brilliant quality.

THE LIGHTEST DLP LINK GLASSES OF THE WORLD
The glasses are light weight in comparison to the competition and weighs 32g with not more like a Polarised, that we know from the movies. In glasses with larger weight, there are often signs of fatigue or pressure points on the nose. With these glasses you literally forget that you ever wear glasses.

178 ° lens + receiver "ZERO FLICKER" + DAYLIGHT FILTER
The revolutionary "Zero flicker" technology, these glasses do not fault prone. The picture is always clear without flickering. The 178 ° signal receiver with a daylight filter ensures ghostingfreie images from almost every Betrachtungswinkel.Die synchronization is always maintained even when head self.

The most convenient DLP LINK GLASSES ON THE MARKET
With the Great openings very well over prescription glasses to wear. Finally realistic stereoscopic glasses to enjoy 3D without restrictions. Comfortably and stylishly. These glasses have a perfect fit, and the straps are very easy to sit very comfortably.

RECHARGEABLE - NOW OVER 30 HOURS IN CONTINUOUS OPERATION
In this series, a high-performance battery is installed. LED indicator shows the current battery status. A single charge lasts for 60 hours of continuous use. Auto Standby, Auto-run, auto-off -
these automatic functions ensure maximum uptime.

DLP PRO 4G MEETS THE HIGHEST QUALITY STANDARDS
These glasses set by their high quality workmanship and innovative technology sets new standards. The patented ULTRA SLIM design is the most recent achievement in terms of weight reduction. Look, feel and function to perfection


Highlights

+ Compatible with all 3D DLP projectors such as Acer, eMachines, Benq, Dell, Mitsubishi, NEC, Optoma, Sanyo, Sharp, Viewsonic
+ The latest LCD shutter technology and anti-interference technology
+ NextGen 200 Hz DLP-ready
+ HD optimized playback
+ The connection to the image takes less than 1 second
+ Automatic Right / Left detection
+ 100% sync block for maximum contrast
+ The colors are not distorted, black is always black
+ One of the lightest goggles on the market
+ No loss of synchronization or "flickering "Thanks to innovative" zero flicker "technolo e
+ The latest LCD shutter technology and anti-interference technology
+ the 178 ° signal receiver with UV filter provides ghostingfreie images from virtually any viewing angle.
+ Scratch-resistant coating of the glass for long life
+ Silent
+ Auto Standby, Auto-run, auto-off functions
+ High quality workmanship
+ Exclusive of a sports glasses ajar Design
+ Rubberized nosepiece
+ Large LCD lenses for optimum screen
+ Very comfortable to wear
+ Extremely light weight only 32g.
+ The mirror provided protection even in bright rooms with Störlichtern used
+ Also Perfect for glasses
+ Suitable for all ages
+ bracket are foldable and flexible
+ High capacity battery installed with above average life
+ USB rechargeable, no battery change needed
+ 24/7 support including 3 years warranty
+ Quality truth from the market leader

Specifications:

Weight: 32g
Contrast: 1200:1
Frequency range: 96Hz/100Hz/120Hz/144Hz/200Hz
Sync: wirelessly via DLP Link
white and Rotblitzabdeckung: 100%
30 working hours with 2 hour recharge time

I'm looking forward to your opinion with these glasses. I guess they're not being sold in the U.S. for now?
post #665 of 800
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Originally Posted by maintman View Post

I'm looking forward to your opinion with these glasses. I guess they're not being sold in the U.S. for now?

The Blue Ones from 3DTV are the same just a different color and are available in the US at a much lower price. They work great made by Hi Shock. Only $58 for two pairs shipped.

http://www.amazon.com/Generation-DLP-Link-Glasses-Projectors-Mitsubishi/dp/B00E1S65EM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1385042834&sr=8-2&keywords=3dtv+corp+dlp They just got them back in stock so these are the latest ones.
post #666 of 800
Thanks rwestley. The only other difference I see between the two is that the green ones are 200hz ready...won't worry about that for now since I don't know of any projectors available with that spec at the moment. So I went ahead and ordered the blue ones. Thx again for the link.
post #667 of 800
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Originally Posted by Kirsty1975 View Post

Does anyone know what is the maximum number of glasses we can connect to 1080ST? Also, which is the best 3D glasses which are battery operated which work with this.

I have a 1080ST and want to use it for business and it is very inconvenient to charge the 3D glasses over USB all the time :-(.

Please suggest.

3D TV has the non rechargable ones available. They use the cheap 2032 battery and work great.


http://www.amazon.com/DLP-LINK-3D-Glasses-Projectors-Mitsubishi/dp/B004G2VJM6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1385043813&sr=8-1&keywords=3dtv+corp+dlp
post #668 of 800

Thanks.

 

Do you know what is the maximum number of glasses we can connect to 1080ST?

 

Thanks again

post #669 of 800
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Originally Posted by Kirsty1975 View Post

Thanks.

Do you know what is the maximum number of glasses we can connect to 1080ST?

Thanks again

The number you can use is only limited by the line of site. If one moves away from the screen all DLP glasses will lose snyc with the projector.
post #670 of 800
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Originally Posted by maintman View Post

Thanks rwestley. The only other difference I see between the two is that the green ones are 200hz ready...won't worry about that for now since I don't know of any projectors available with that spec at the moment. So I went ahead and ordered the blue ones. Thx again for the link.

I would also bet that that the blue ones are 200hz ready. I doubt we will even see 200hz so nothing to worry about. The only difference seems to be the color. Hi Shock makes some of the best glasses around. They put some though into blocking the red flash with these by putting a small lip around the frame. They are light and really comfortable and work over glasses.
post #671 of 800
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Originally Posted by ztOctavian View Post

Hi Folks!


Some great suggestions and help on here for the glasses.


i nearly pulled the trigger on the True Depth 3D firestorm LT however too muich messing about with a mail forwarder to europe and the cost of shipping was €78 euro!!!   :O


I have ordered a pair of these!  "Lime Heaven"


http://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP


5th Gen!?


The blue Heaven i saw getting a mention so I though I would give these a go from Germany and 5 quid shipping in Europe worth a try.


I will post my findings.


Will be used with a Benq W1070 also on order.


 I will only be able to compare the new setup with a just sold Acer H5360BD with the Video Dimension zd glasses which worked flawlessly except a slight greenish tinge to the picture.


Fingers crossed! will take a week or so before I post back!


Stay Glassy!  wink.gif




Hi Shock - "Lime Green" DLP Pro 5th Gen - Specifications

===============================================================================

THE BRIGHTEST GLASSES ON THE MARKET WITH brilliant colors

thanks to the latest LCD technology with an ultra-fast Rektionszeit below 1.5 ms. one of the lightest goggles on the market. These glasses are 100% sync block. Black remains black. No red, white or greenish as with other DLP Link glasses. R / L is automatic detection. Glasses coated krazfest



ABSOLUTELY SILENT

Other DLP Link glasses cause the "shutters" clearly audible "hum". This series is thanks to the new LCD technology absolutely silent. So you can enjoy your movie smoothly and in brilliant quality.



THE LIGHTEST DLP LINK GLASSES OF THE WORLD

The glasses are light weight in comparison to the competition and weighs 32g with not more like a Polarised, that we know from the movies. In glasses with larger weight, there are often signs of fatigue or pressure points on the nose. With these glasses you literally forget that you ever wear glasses.



178 ° lens + receiver "ZERO FLICKER" + DAYLIGHT FILTER

The revolutionary "Zero flicker" technology, these glasses do not fault prone. The picture is always clear without flickering. The 178 ° signal receiver with a daylight filter ensures ghostingfreie images from almost every Betrachtungswinkel.Die synchronization is always maintained even when head self.



The most convenient DLP LINK GLASSES ON THE MARKET

With the Great openings very well over prescription glasses to wear. Finally realistic stereoscopic glasses to enjoy 3D without restrictions. Comfortably and stylishly. These glasses have a perfect fit, and the straps are very easy to sit very comfortably.



RECHARGEABLE - NOW OVER 30 HOURS IN CONTINUOUS OPERATION

In this series, a high-performance battery is installed. LED indicator shows the current battery status. A single charge lasts for 60 hours of continuous use. Auto Standby, Auto-run, auto-off -

these automatic functions ensure maximum uptime.



DLP PRO 4G MEETS THE HIGHEST QUALITY STANDARDS

These glasses set by their high quality workmanship and innovative technology sets new standards. The patented ULTRA SLIM design is the most recent achievement in terms of weight reduction. Look, feel and function to perfection





Highlights



+ Compatible with all 3D DLP projectors such as Acer, eMachines, Benq, Dell, Mitsubishi, NEC, Optoma, Sanyo, Sharp, Viewsonic

+ The latest LCD shutter technology and anti-interference technology

+ NextGen 200 Hz DLP-ready

+ HD optimized playback

+ The connection to the image takes less than 1 second

+ Automatic Right / Left detection

+ 100% sync block for maximum contrast

+ The colors are not distorted, black is always black

+ One of the lightest goggles on the market

+ No loss of synchronization or "flickering "Thanks to innovative" zero flicker "technolo e

+ The latest LCD shutter technology and anti-interference technology

+ the 178 ° signal receiver with UV filter provides ghostingfreie images from virtually any viewing angle.

+ Scratch-resistant coating of the glass for long life

+ Silent

+ Auto Standby, Auto-run, auto-off functions

+ High quality workmanship

+ Exclusive of a sports glasses ajar Design

+ Rubberized nosepiece

+ Large LCD lenses for optimum screen

+ Very comfortable to wear

+ Extremely light weight only 32g.

+ The mirror provided protection even in bright rooms with Störlichtern used

+ Also Perfect for glasses

+ Suitable for all ages

+ bracket are foldable and flexible

+ High capacity battery installed with above average life

+ USB rechargeable, no battery change needed

+ 24/7 support including 3 years warranty

+ Quality truth from the market leader



Specifications:



Weight: 32g

Contrast: 1200:1

Frequency range: 96Hz/100Hz/120Hz/144Hz/200Hz

Sync: wirelessly via DLP Link

white and Rotblitzabdeckung: 100%

30 working hours with 2 hour recharge time

 




Hey folks!

Ok I recieved the glasses from the link above

i.e. these ones ---> http://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP%22%3Ehttp://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP

I am glad to say that they work perfectly with thye Benq W1070

Setup - PS3 + Onkyo TX-NR509 amp + Benq W1070 firmware revision v1.6 at 14 foot throw to plain white screen at 120"
Movies watched - Avatar 3D and Underworld awakening.
Watched using either Eco or Full lamp power no problems.

No redening of the black - Black IS Black
No issues with Syncing - THey sync perfectly fast and you can move your head vertically or horizontally as much as you can see with your eyes in this position and they remain in sync.
I find them perfectly comfortable with the arms wrapping around the head nicely.

I found that these glasses have virtually no contrast colouor difference accross the glass lens like I had with my old 3DTV style 120Hz glasses on an acer h5360bd those old one had a contrasting cross of colour across the lenses.

I would rebuy again but I might just check to see if the 3DTV Branded (Blue Heaven) ones are just as good. as they are close to half the price of the HiShock Lime Heaven units.

(Of note there is a model number printed on the underside of the frame which shows (YDD3PG) where as the model number on the boxes are YDD4PG. this is cosmetic im sure)

Hope this reccomendation helps anyone that has seen the (Lime Heaven) units - They work perfectly.
Nick
Edited by ztOctavian - 11/25/13 at 5:49am
post #672 of 800
The Samsung glasses are not DLP glasses and will not work.
post #673 of 800
Quote:
Originally Posted by ztOctavian View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by ztOctavian View Post

Hi Folks!


Some great suggestions and help on here for the glasses.


i nearly pulled the trigger on the True Depth 3D firestorm LT however too muich messing about with a mail forwarder to europe and the cost of shipping was €78 euro!!!   :O


I have ordered a pair of these!  "Lime Heaven"


http://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP


5th Gen!?


The blue Heaven i saw getting a mention so I though I would give these a go from Germany and 5 quid shipping in Europe worth a try.


I will post my findings.


Will be used with a Benq W1070 also on order.


 I will only be able to compare the new setup with a just sold Acer H5360BD with the Video Dimension zd glasses which worked flawlessly except a slight greenish tinge to the picture.


Fingers crossed! will take a week or so before I post back!


Stay Glassy!  wink.gif




Hi Shock - "Lime Green" DLP Pro 5th Gen - Specifications

===============================================================================

THE BRIGHTEST GLASSES ON THE MARKET WITH brilliant colors

thanks to the latest LCD technology with an ultra-fast Rektionszeit below 1.5 ms. one of the lightest goggles on the market. These glasses are 100% sync block. Black remains black. No red, white or greenish as with other DLP Link glasses. R / L is automatic detection. Glasses coated krazfest



ABSOLUTELY SILENT

Other DLP Link glasses cause the "shutters" clearly audible "hum". This series is thanks to the new LCD technology absolutely silent. So you can enjoy your movie smoothly and in brilliant quality.



THE LIGHTEST DLP LINK GLASSES OF THE WORLD

The glasses are light weight in comparison to the competition and weighs 32g with not more like a Polarised, that we know from the movies. In glasses with larger weight, there are often signs of fatigue or pressure points on the nose. With these glasses you literally forget that you ever wear glasses.



178 ° lens + receiver "ZERO FLICKER" + DAYLIGHT FILTER

The revolutionary "Zero flicker" technology, these glasses do not fault prone. The picture is always clear without flickering. The 178 ° signal receiver with a daylight filter ensures ghostingfreie images from almost every Betrachtungswinkel.Die synchronization is always maintained even when head self.



The most convenient DLP LINK GLASSES ON THE MARKET

With the Great openings very well over prescription glasses to wear. Finally realistic stereoscopic glasses to enjoy 3D without restrictions. Comfortably and stylishly. These glasses have a perfect fit, and the straps are very easy to sit very comfortably.



RECHARGEABLE - NOW OVER 30 HOURS IN CONTINUOUS OPERATION

In this series, a high-performance battery is installed. LED indicator shows the current battery status. A single charge lasts for 60 hours of continuous use. Auto Standby, Auto-run, auto-off -

these automatic functions ensure maximum uptime.



DLP PRO 4G MEETS THE HIGHEST QUALITY STANDARDS

These glasses set by their high quality workmanship and innovative technology sets new standards. The patented ULTRA SLIM design is the most recent achievement in terms of weight reduction. Look, feel and function to perfection





Highlights



+ Compatible with all 3D DLP projectors such as Acer, eMachines, Benq, Dell, Mitsubishi, NEC, Optoma, Sanyo, Sharp, Viewsonic

+ The latest LCD shutter technology and anti-interference technology

+ NextGen 200 Hz DLP-ready

+ HD optimized playback

+ The connection to the image takes less than 1 second

+ Automatic Right / Left detection

+ 100% sync block for maximum contrast

+ The colors are not distorted, black is always black

+ One of the lightest goggles on the market

+ No loss of synchronization or "flickering "Thanks to innovative" zero flicker "technolo e

+ The latest LCD shutter technology and anti-interference technology

+ the 178 ° signal receiver with UV filter provides ghostingfreie images from virtually any viewing angle.

+ Scratch-resistant coating of the glass for long life

+ Silent

+ Auto Standby, Auto-run, auto-off functions

+ High quality workmanship

+ Exclusive of a sports glasses ajar Design

+ Rubberized nosepiece

+ Large LCD lenses for optimum screen

+ Very comfortable to wear

+ Extremely light weight only 32g.

+ The mirror provided protection even in bright rooms with Störlichtern used

+ Also Perfect for glasses

+ Suitable for all ages

+ bracket are foldable and flexible

+ High capacity battery installed with above average life

+ USB rechargeable, no battery change needed

+ 24/7 support including 3 years warranty

+ Quality truth from the market leader



Specifications:



Weight: 32g

Contrast: 1200:1

Frequency range: 96Hz/100Hz/120Hz/144Hz/200Hz

Sync: wirelessly via DLP Link

white and Rotblitzabdeckung: 100%

30 working hours with 2 hour recharge time

 




Hey folks!

Ok I recieved the glasses from the link above

i.e. these ones ---> http://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP%22%3Ehttp://www.amazon.de/Doppelpack-5-GENERATION-Original-Hi-Shock%C2%AE-optimiert/dp/B00G7TKELI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384470540&sr=8-2&keywords=Hi-Shock+DLP

I am glad to say that they work perfectly with thye Benq W1070

Setup - PS3 + Onkyo TX-NR509 amp + Benq W1070 firmware revision v1.6 at 14 foot throw to plain white screen at 120"
Movies watched - Avatar 3D and Underworld awakening.
Watched using either Eco or Full lamp power no problems.

No redening of the black - Black IS Black
No issues with Syncing - THey sync perfectly fast and you can move your head vertically or horizontally as much as you can see with your eyes in this position and they remain in sync.
I find them perfectly comfortable with the arms wrapping around the head nicely.

I found that these glasses have virtually no contrast colouor difference accross the glass lens like I had with my old 3DTV style 120Hz glasses on an acer h5360bd those old one had a contrasting cross of colour across the lenses.

I would rebuy again but I might just check to see if the 3DTV Branded (Blue Heaven) ones are just as good. as they are close to half the price of the HiShock Lime Heaven units.

(Of note there is a model number printed on the underside of the frame which shows (YDD3PG) where as the model number on the boxes are YDD4PG. this is cosmetic im sure)

Hope this reccomendation helps anyone that has seen the (Lime Heaven) units - They work perfectly.
Nick

I wonder whether this is better than the one rwestley recommends.
post #674 of 800
I checked again and the Lime glasses have the same model on the glasses as the Blue ones. (YDD3PG) just a different color. I do not believe that the Lime ones are available in the US at this time. I will do a google search. You will also notice that in the link above for Germany there is a choice of colors, Lime or Blue.
post #675 of 800

that right,They're not very good though in terms of picture quality and would lose sync. Motion on 144Hz is also very smooth.

paXMwh

post #676 of 800
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Originally Posted by ruckessgood View Post

that right,They're not very good though in terms of picture quality and would lose sync. Motion on 144Hz is also very smooth.
paXMwh

What are you referring to that isn't good and loses sync?
post #677 of 800
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Originally Posted by mbloof View Post

To conclude, unlike the "3DTV DLP2 Pro" glasses I'm happy with my purchase of the "True Depth v3.5"s so far. The single envelope sized flyer that came with them was not without some unneeded alarm. The flyer states that the glasses are designed for a "WHITE" sync signal and only list 120hz (not 144hz that the Benq's require). At first I thought they had sent me the wrong model however after testing with both games (TR2013 has some > 4" separation of high contrast elements) these seem to work.

I believe the projector operates at 120hz for 60fps content, and the 144hz mode is reserved for 24fps content.

120/60 = 2, so each frame is flashed once in each eye.
144/24 = 6, so each frame is flashed three times in each eye.
144/60 = 2.4, wouldn't work.

So you may find those glasses don't work if you want to watch 3D Blu-rays.
post #678 of 800

To my understanding it is possibly to do 144hz with single chip DLP and TI did some improvements to DC3 chipset recently so maybe there is now enough processing power to do 144hz. DMD chip itself can do 400hz.

tDO6ls

post #679 of 800
There's no question the projector can do 144hz. The problem is that to display 60fps 3D (120fps) at 144hz the projector would need to repeat 24 out of the 120 frames, resulting in judder, and some input lag due to the timing differences. It's just smarter for the projector to operate at 120hz in that case.

What would be interesting is if the PC could also operate at 144hz, giving the projector 72fps 3D, but most likely the limits of HDMI prevent it.
post #680 of 800
post #681 of 800

I have. Go with the 3DTV glasses or the New 3DTV Blue light weight glasses also sold by Amazon. Both of these block the red flash much better than the SanSonic glasses.
post #682 of 800
I have 4 pairs of Sainsonic "rainbow" and I find that they lose sync VERY easily ... there seems to be a quality issue too, cuz of the 4 pairs, 1 is particularly bad - I have to press the button to switch sync every 10 min or so. The other 3 pairs vary ... best case is I only have to press the button once during a ~ 2 hrs movie.

Otherwise Sainsonic rainbow is comfortable to wear, they are light, picture looks alright though I haven't tried any other glasses I don't know if there's gonna be a drastic improvement in picture quality if I go to another brand?

The sync issue is annoying though ... I usually give the 1 good pair to my wife when we watch 3D but it is kinda annoying every 20-30 I'd lose sync. THinking of getting another pair just to try.

What's a good suggestion if I go with another brand? I wear glasses so I need something that go over glasses easy (Sainsonic rainbow isn't very good at that either)
post #683 of 800
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Originally Posted by number17 View Post

I have 4 pairs of Sainsonic "rainbow" and I find that they lose sync VERY easily ... there seems to be a quality issue too, cuz of the 4 pairs, 1 is particularly bad - I have to press the button to switch sync every 10 min or so. The other 3 pairs vary ... best case is I only have to press the button once during a ~ 2 hrs movie.

Otherwise Sainsonic rainbow is comfortable to wear, they are light, picture looks alright though I haven't tried any other glasses I don't know if there's gonna be a drastic improvement in picture quality if I go to another brand?

The sync issue is annoying though ... I usually give the 1 good pair to my wife when we watch 3D but it is kinda annoying every 20-30 I'd lose sync. THinking of getting another pair just to try.

What's a good suggestion if I go with another brand? I wear glasses so I need something that go over glasses easy (Sainsonic rainbow isn't very good at that either)

The sync issue can be caused by many things including amount of light in the room and how far you are from the screen. Many glasses may drop sync if you turn your head away from the screen. That being said sync can be hit or miss. depending on the situation. I agree that the Sainsonic are comfortable but they do not block the red flash very well and are not well made. The different glasses made by HI Shock sold under different brands are very good. The new Blue Heaven models are very comfortable but they can loose the sync. The other model also sold by 3DTV that is non-rechargeable is also good. Another alternative are the glasses sold by Dimensional Optics. They are great and hold the sync very well. They also come with nice cases. The ones I have recommended also block the red flash very well.
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I'll add a +1 on this thread for the Dimensional Optics glasses...

http://www.dimensionaloptics.com/Product.aspx?l=00010001000100100001&p=A1S01323

Unboxed them last night (ordered four pairs for the family for Christmas), charged them up and tried them last night on 3 different movies. I have no experience with any other glasses with the W1070, but I will say that these are comfortable, show no red flash that I can see, and just work. I was trying to make them lose sync by walking out of the room staring at lights, etc.. but as soon as I stepped back in front of the screen within 1/2 a second they were synced back up.

Very pleased. Tried it out with IMAX Under the Sea, and everything looked stunning. I spent $169 on 4 pairs after coupon, which is a little bit more than the other glasses on amazon / ebay, but given that they are rechargeable, fit perfectly, come with a nice case, and I ordered direct from the company makes it feel worth it to me. Before I made my order I called and talked with someone at the company and they were extremely helpful, explained how the glasses fit on his 7 year old granddaughter etc.... If you are on the fence, you will be happy with these. But, I can't speak for the other options.
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hey folks!

 

Thought id chime back in with something somebody might be able to throw some light on!  lol   see what i did there?  ;P

 

Anyway.

 

Problem is: Sync Loss recreateable on particular scenes.

 

Setup is:

 

Benq W1070

Onkyo Amp

PS3

HiShock 3D Glasses "Lime Heaven"

 

 

The test is on and if anyone should have it - 3D Bluray of Man Of Steel.

 

So at the following time index i get a loss of syn for the specified period of time:

 

Hour.Minute.Seconds   -    Duration of sync loss.

1.34.01                        -    4 seconds
 
2.01.00                        -    4 seconds
2.07.50                        -    3 seconds
 
2.07.59                        -    8 seconds
 
Strangely I rewind maybe back 5 seconds earlier and the issue recreates.
 
I never have frame drops over my 8metre HDMI Lead. The hobbit 3d seemed fine with the same setup.
I think I had one brief sync loss but thought they were random until curiosity got the better of me.
 
Analysis of data transmission and scene information was observed as follows:
 
1)      Scenes did not have flashing frames such as lightning or police car lights which could lead to suspect a scene as being the cause for signal missinterpretation to the glasses.
 
2)      Data observed by bringing up the information on PS3 was not high
i.e. the highest data throughput observed was 28Mbps in one scene and the other 3 scenes were about 18Mbps.
 
 
So has anyone got the same issue i.e. recreate the sync loss at a particular scene? I wonder why this occurs where there is no visible reason for it to?
 
Is anyone aware of any design issue that could attribute to a loss of sync at a particular scene i.e. Disc layer change etc that could cause similar issue.
 
Thought this information might help to problem solve any sync issues no matter what glasses or setup people have.
 
Regards,
Nick.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I have. Go with the 3DTV glasses or the New 3DTV Blue light weight glasses also sold by Amazon. Both of these block the red flash much better than the SanSonic glasses.

Thanks, Rwestley. I got the 3DTV glasses (battery) and they worked great! Stupid question: How do you turn them on/off? Is it automatic?
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Thanks, Rwestley. I got the 3DTV glasses (battery) and they worked great! Stupid question: How do you turn them on/off? Is it automatic?

You can hold the button to turn them off but it is not necessary. They will automatically turn off after a few minutes. I suggest that you buy some extra 2032 batteries. Very cheap from Amazon.
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Originally Posted by Airion View Post


I believe the projector operates at 120hz for 60fps content, and the 144hz mode is reserved for 24fps content.

120/60 = 2, so each frame is flashed once in each eye.
144/24 = 6, so each frame is flashed three times in each eye.
144/60 = 2.4, wouldn't work.

So you may find those glasses don't work if you want to watch 3D Blu-rays.

 

While I generally watch my 3D bluerays on the Samsung plasma in the living room I recently watched "StarTrek" and "Avatar" with the 3D Depth glasses without issue. Their website lists the version 3.5 as Benq 144hz compatible but the fairly useless instruction sheet included with the glasses did not.

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in summary what are the top 3 dlp link 3d active glasses to be used on 120hz 3d ready dlp projector.

i heard xpand edux 3 is good. anybody tried it?

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anyone try these ones yet? www.3dwear.ca?
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