I've not read posts on this thread, but want to mention that Amazon has a little ATSC digital converter box called HomeWorx HW-150PVR that has HDMI out and has 'cable loop through'. I have gone through two cable boxes that I bought on ebay for my projector, but neither had the HDMI out and this little box records also (though you cannot watch one station and record another). The unit is very basic and has a really funky remote control (not a very good interface, but works fine), but is only like $45 (free shipping with Prime acct). Oh, I should mention that while it does not have a hard drive, it does have a USB port to which you attach a flash drive. Pretty convenient really. It picks up all the stations offered in Indianapolis, IN area.