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post #511 of 1271
Mine is version 1.03.
post #512 of 1271
I went into my 5020UB's After Service menu. It seems I have a V103 firmware. When I read there is a USB upgrade process, I said to myself, there's no USB port on this projector. Then I unscrewed that tiny plastic cover on the back held on with a single screw, USB port. :-) I would be very interested in what the changelog is from older versions to v104 or newer. I have lots of HDMI handshake issues between my Digital Cable box > Marantz AVR > 5020UB. Also the time the 5020UB takes to sync to any Input signals is really slow IMHO. My older projector was so much faster in that respect. Not sure if a firmware update would help.
Otherwise a fantastic unit.
post #513 of 1271
I have the v104, what is hdmi handshake and very happy with my 5020ube
even with my temporary screen 4x8 sheet of white templast to funny,, next week screen is a coming
post #514 of 1271
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

HDMI Handshake is a CABLE problem.

Everyone should UPGRADE to v104 at least.

I have v106 if anyone needs it.
how do i get and apply an upgrade?
post #515 of 1271
How would one get V1.06 ?
I have V1.00
post #516 of 1271
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Originally Posted by pevco View Post

Those instructions worked on my Epson 5020.......turns out I have version 1.00
Wonder what changes are in Version 1.04?
Anyone know?

Me too. Just checked it. Couldn't find any info on the epson site
post #517 of 1271
I am looking for some advice. I am prewiring my basement and looking for the correct distance to screen for the Epson 5020 with a 120 inch screen. The room will be light controlled. However I would like to be able to watch sports with some light. I have read that the closer the projector the best performance with light room but you may lose contrast and because of zoom you are losing quality. I am looking for the best of both if there is one. Projector will be mounted on soffit 7 feet from ground projecting to a wall with 8 foot ceilings.
post #518 of 1271
Hello brothers

I will buy my first projector next week and i live in turkey.

In our country both of projector comes with 2 year warranty and no extra spare lamp.

They come with pair of 3d glasses. Epson 5020 (named 8100 in europe) doesnt have THX Mode in european units.

Sony Hw50es: 4000 $

Epson 5020: 3000 $


My screen is 106 inc (diagonal) grandview matte white and viewing distance is 12-13 feet. Room has grey matt walls and black ceiling.

I will use my home theater for %70 2d bluray movies %20 3d bluray movies and %10 HDTV sport.

My concern is picture quality.

So my friends what do you suggest for me?

Kind Regards

ps: Sorry for my English
post #519 of 1271
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Originally Posted by JasonM1234 View Post

I am looking for some advice. I am prewiring my basement and looking for the correct distance to screen for the Epson 5020 with a 120 inch screen. The room will be light controlled. However I would like to be able to watch sports with some light. I have read that the closer the projector the best performance with light room but you may lose contrast and because of zoom you are losing quality. I am looking for the best of both if there is one. Projector will be mounted on soffit 7 feet from ground projecting to a wall with 8 foot ceilings.
If you scroll back through the past few weeks of posts on this thread you will find a lot of info about this sort of thing. Epson also has a screen distance calculator on their website and someone posted the link here, also a few weeks back. You can probably search this thread or Google it.

I have had my 5020 for about a month now and also thought I could watch sports with some light in the room. You can and the Epson is certainly bright enough depending on how much light you have in your room of course but you will get the best image in a totally dark room. I have my Epson reserved for special sporting events and movies and watch my 59" plasma for most everything else.
post #520 of 1271
Quote:
Thank you for contacting Epson support.

It sounds like the firmware on your Home Cinema 5020UB is already up to date. Version 1.03 is the latest fw for the Home Cinema 5020UB. I think you might be mistaking the latest firmware for the Home Cinema 5010 which is v1.08.

Well that's an interesting response from Epson Support... now I'm just confused. Maybe only the 5020UBE is on 1.04. Or the international version is on a different firmware? The link from a few posts back on the firmware upgrade procedure is on epson.ca not epson.com.
post #521 of 1271
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Originally Posted by cemo62 View Post

Hello brothers

I will buy my first projector next week and i live in turkey.

In our country both of projector comes with 2 year warranty and no extra spare lamp.

They come with pair of 3d glasses. Epson 5020 (named 8100 in europe) doesnt have THX Mode in european units.

Sony Hw50es: 4000 $

Epson 5020: 3000 $


My screen is 106 inc (diagonal) grandview matte white and viewing distance is 12-13 feet. Room has grey matt walls and black ceiling.

I will use my home theater for %70 2d bluray movies %20 3d bluray movies and %10 HDTV sport.

My concern is picture quality.

So my friends what do you suggest for me?

Kind Regards

ps: Sorry for my English

Both have strengths, but is $1000 difference worth the lcos difference? You have to decide. A review that might help. http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/we-three-projectors
post #522 of 1271
Hi everyone,

Have some questions about lens shift/positioning of the image.

1) Do people strive to perfectly line up their image with 0 overscan, or do people generally let them image "bleed" into the border of their frame/screen? I have an Elite 100" Sable, and the black frame is good at squelching the extra light on the fringe of the image.

2) When I do the lens shift, I get the image lined up nicely. The lens shift knobs feel sloppy and have a lot of give/play. I've read in various places online that this is to be expected. But the next day, I turn the projector on and the picture has drooped/sagged slightly. I've also read this can happen. I found a guy (with a different Epson projector) talking about how to tap on the zoom/focus rings to "settle" the lens in so it wouldn't shift. Advice? What do other 5020 owners experience with sloppy lens shift?

Thanks,

Chris
post #523 of 1271
Mine does that too but I think it is my ceiling mount. There isn't a good way to fine tune it because once I apply any pressure to the screws (after I have it set just right), it moves. It is frustrating and has me thinking I will need to search for a better mount that has some way to fine tune the image better. The manual adjustments on the 5020 are pretty crude but once they are set, one shouldn't have to adjust it again ............Assuming the mount allows some adjustment. One way or the other, there needs to be a way to fine tune it and so far I haven't come up with a good answer either. Mine has settled a bit so that it bleeds a little bit but it doesn't bother me unless I look for it.
Edited by WillyJ - 5/8/13 at 9:40am
post #524 of 1271
Has anyone noticed a difference in audio delay needed when switching between a Blu-Ray at 1080p/24 and one at 1080i/60? I have two different players set to output in "direct" or "native" mode into an Integra prepro also set to "direct" video output - so no processing should be happening prior to the projector. I had used the WOW disc to set the delay originally (which is a 1080p/24 disc). But when I put in 1080i/60 concert discs, I have to reduce the delay by slightly over 100ms - which seems to indicate the projector takes a fair amount of time to convert the 1080i to it's native 1080p. Has this been noticed by other 5020UB owners?
post #525 of 1271
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Originally Posted by fatherom View Post

Hi everyone,

Have some questions about lens shift/positioning of the image.

1) Do people strive to perfectly line up their image with 0 overscan, or do people generally let them image "bleed" into the border of their frame/screen? I have an Elite 100" Sable, and the black frame is good at squelching the extra light on the fringe of the image.

2) When I do the lens shift, I get the image lined up nicely. The lens shift knobs feel sloppy and have a lot of give/play. I've read in various places online that this is to be expected. But the next day, I turn the projector on and the picture has drooped/sagged slightly. I've also read this can happen. I found a guy (with a different Epson projector) talking about how to tap on the zoom/focus rings to "settle" the lens in so it wouldn't shift. Advice? What do other 5020 owners experience with sloppy lens shift?

Thanks,

Chris

Yeah, my 6010 does the same thing. Not the best design. I let the image bleed over about an inch into the black border on my screen, I like the effect. One thing you might try with the lens shift knobs. I found that the center indention on the horz shift might be some cause. What I do is offset the horz shift just a tad off center, so it's no longer setting in the "indention", and that seemed to help stabilize the vertical knob, so it didn't drop.
post #526 of 1271
I was having the same problem with lens shift dropping ever so slightly a day later. I just adjusted it ever so slightly up and the next day it dropped into place and hasn't moved since.
post #527 of 1271
Since the 5020 and 6020 are basically the same projector, I thought I'd post some comments about my 6020.


FedEx delivered my 6020 last night. Here are some of my first impressions.

1. The box was huge! I drive a mid-sized sedan and it barely fit inside the back door. I had it delivered to a FedEx location since they needed a signature. Perhaps it would have been better to have it delivered to my home.

2. The projector is huge. I've had two projectors before this. A Mitisubishi and an Acer (Both were DLPs). This has to be 2 or 3 times their size.

3. The cable cover for the back of the projector is awesome! I really didn't know what to expect until I saw it. I guess I thought it would be some kind of cable wrap and not a plastic cover that attaches to the back of the projector.

4. The auto lens cap is cool.

5. The mount is great. I chose not to install with the small extension pipe. The quality is top notch and black to match the projector. Easy to install. Install instructions not so good. I love the option to lock the projector in place with a key. Easy to adjust Roll, Pitch and Yaw. It would have been nice to have screws to mount to the ceiling. Luckily, I had some already.

6. When I first turned on my projector, the manual lens shift was not even close to centered. It took awhile to figure out how to adjust this versus moving the ceiling mount.

7. Would be better if a gravity switch would detect ceiling mount. It was difficult to read upside down to change this.

8. I was only able to watch a few scenes for 45 minutes. I only did some adjusting to brightness, contrast and auto iris. Blacks look good, but not great yet. I'm hopful that more tweaking will improve greatly. Picture looks great. I read some say that sharpness on LCD is not as good as DLP. I've only had DLP and it did seem that sharpness was not quite as good. Again, I hope with adjustments, this will improve.


I'm sure I'll spend a few hours in the theater tonight.
Does anyone have any opinions on early setup settings or features?
post #528 of 1271
So my setup is in a living room with poor light control. The display still looks acceptable in the day time when cranked up, but this is overpowering at night and sacrifices black levels.

So I figured out a way to program a macro for changing the viewing mode. The menus generally aren't setup to be operated as a dicrete function (meaning you have to program your macro to scroll through options, and depending on the option it's already set at, the macro can end up somewhere different than you intended.) The memory menu is one exception to this.

I saved a very bright setting (but still ECO) in the memory as "Day mode".

Then saved a darker setting with better blacks as "Night mode".

Then programmed macro buttons for my universal remote for both modes, one touch. Lovin it.
post #529 of 1271
I am going to buy 5020UBe but wondering about HDMI wireless ...anyone can give me more info ...I'm worry about losing quality of image.....

One more question ...does it come with ceiling mount? Or do I have to buy it separate?? Thanks for your time
post #530 of 1271
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Originally Posted by JeffreyJonesBSME View Post

I was only able to watch a few scenes for 45 minutes. I only did some adjusting to brightness, contrast and auto iris. Blacks look good, but not great yet. I'm hopful that more tweaking will improve greatly. Picture looks great. I read some say that sharpness on LCD is not as good as DLP. I've only had DLP and it did seem that sharpness was not quite as good. Again, I hope with adjustments, this will improve.

Can you please elaborate on the lack of Sharpness?

I currently have a Benq W5000 that is fantastic for both movies and PC use (Web browsing, games, etc). The fonts and sharpness in Windows 7 is excellent on the Benq. I was considering upgrading my PJ to a Epson 5020UB because I want better blacks and more pop but not at the expense of sharpness.
post #531 of 1271
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Originally Posted by BizMarkie View Post

I am going to buy 5020UBe but wondering about HDMI wireless ...anyone can give me more info ...I'm worry about losing quality of image.....

One more question ...does it come with ceiling mount? Or do I have to buy it separate?? Thanks for your time
No issues with image quality wireless vs wired. You may need to maintain line of sight though to insure you have a strong connection. With digital, it is all or none.

No mount with the projector from Epson unless you can find a special offer bundle somewhere........typically a retailer - I am not aware of any bundles that Epson has offered on this one though.
post #532 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Pastuch View Post

Can you please elaborate on the lack of Sharpness?

I currently have a Benq W5000 that is fantastic for both movies and PC use (Web browsing, games, etc). The fonts and sharpness in Windows 7 is excellent on the Benq. I was considering upgrading my PJ to a Epson 5020UB because I want better blacks and more pop but not at the expense of sharpness.

These were just some first impressions without really doing many adjustments. I'm sure after some more adjustments, it should look much better. I've even heard some say that convergence should be done on new projectors due to shipping bumps, etc.

I'll be sure and comment more after I've done more with it.
post #533 of 1271
Just a little Atta-Boy to Jason at Integrated Tech Solutions, who sold me my 6020. They are located in New Jersey and are very knowledgeable, friendly and great price. They are an Epson dealer and can be confirmed at the Epson website.

Thanks Jason!
post #534 of 1271
FOr my 5020 UBe, "lack of sharpness" was fixed when I adjusted the lenses or convergence. beautiful picture after that.

Also, I have had no issues with wireless connection
post #535 of 1271
Don’t know if you solved this yet, but I had the same problem with the screen going blank, did it on 3D movies also. I have an AMD 6870 video card. I found my video card refresh rate was defaulting to 60hz. So I set it to 24hz manually, and the problem went away. If I unplug the HDMI connector from the projector, and then plug it back in, it sometimes switches back to 60hz, so I will have to reset it. Not sure if this is normal, but it works for me. It’s kind of a pain to reset the refresh rate with the picture dropping in and out. : )
post #536 of 1271
Okay..........so what is the latest Epson 5020UB USA model firmware?
And where can one get it.
I have Version 1.00

Thanks....
post #537 of 1271
I did a firmware update to version 1.03 and it really solved the annoying HDMI problems. Now the beamer runs fine. I did it also to a German Powerlite TW8100 which is identical to the 5020UB.
FW upgrade utility required Windows XP.
Thanks to all who provides some help smile.gif
post #538 of 1271
Quote:
Originally Posted by malomalo View Post

I did a firmware update to version 1.03 and it really solved the annoying HDMI problems. Now the beamer runs fine. I did it also to a German Powerlite TW8100 which is identical to the 5020UB.
FW upgrade utility required Windows XP.
Thanks to all who provides some help smile.gif

where did you Download the new firmware?
post #539 of 1271
I received it from Epson service.
post #540 of 1271
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillyJ View Post

No issues with image quality wireless vs wired. You may need to maintain line of sight though to insure you have a strong connection. With digital, it is all or none.

No mount with the projector from Epson unless you can find a special offer bundle somewhere........typically a retailer - I am not aware of any bundles that Epson has offered on this one though.


Which mount would you recommend ?

Its look like Epson is the only brand that carry the HDMI wireless, right?
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