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post #691 of 1271
well dang, I tried to play a 3d movie and it comes up and tells me has to have a 3d player and viewer like its not picking up the projector is 3d? I used the ps3 first then my new Samsung 3d blu ray player and it does it with both. I am running 1.3 hdmi cables and going through my onkyo sr 805 receiver. any clue if it could be the cable or the onkyo?
post #692 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Mudcon View Post

well dang, I tried to play a 3d movie and it comes up and tells me has to have a 3d player and viewer like its not picking up the projector is 3d? I used the ps3 first then my new Samsung 3d blu ray player and it does it with both. I am running 1.3 hdmi cables and going through my onkyo sr 805 receiver. any clue if it could be the cable or the onkyo?

Most Likely the Onkyo is not 3D.

My AVR is NOT 3D that is why I use a SONY S790 with Dual HDMI outputs.

Video goes to the 5010 and Audio to the AVR. It works Fine.
post #693 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Mudcon View Post

well dang, I tried to play a 3d movie and it comes up and tells me has to have a 3d player and viewer like its not picking up the projector is 3d? I used the ps3 first then my new Samsung 3d blu ray player and it does it with both. I am running 1.3 hdmi cables and going through my onkyo sr 805 receiver. any clue if it could be the cable or the onkyo?

A 5-second google search shows that your onkyo doesn't support 3D.
post #694 of 1271
dangit, I did too. crap........ I put the player on hdmi 2 and played it and holy crap. so it was with a 1.3 so I should be fine except finding another onkyo that does 3d.
post #695 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Mudcon View Post

As of last night I am the proud owner of a 5020ube after reading this thread for about a week. I have a sanyo plv-z2000 (for sale-lol) and didnt think I needed anything more....WAS I EVER SOOOOOOO WRONG. The 2000 is wonderful in it self but for the price I got this I could not pass it up. I saw the post on craigslist which of course worried me. Emailed the guy and talked to him on the phone. What he was telling me was to good to be true. He stated he works for a production company in atlanta and they are moving back out west. The projector was 2 months old and was used twice. He stated the director producing for tv shows did not like previewing on a big screen so he got a plasma to do it. Last week he told me it would be monday before he could get in the room to get it down. So that gave me a week to research it.

The more I researched it the more excited I got. Figured it would give me time to change my mind but it didnt. I did talked to him several times and still just figured it was to good to be true. So I take off to atlanta last night after work(now I know why I dont live in town) . Man the longest hour drive just knowing it was to good to be true still.

Well I get there and walk in the meeting room and there it is, ceiling mount, box, paper work, glasses, remote and best off all a copy of the receipt from B&H that was bought on 4-4-2013. Of course the first question I asked was it registered.........NOPE yes score. Plugged it in and but a bluray on and was impressed just on the brick wall. No green bloobs. everything looked good. Paid him and boy I could not get home fast enough. Got home walked straight through the door took off my shoes and to the theater I went. I yell came down the stairs, "hey baby welcome home" Crap forgot to tell my wife hey as I walked through the kitchen......oops.

20min later, WOW. He told me it was only turned on twice, I know for reading on here that the bulb counter dont start counting til 10 hours, it was on 0. Nothing has been changed in settings at all. the only thing I had to do was zoom it in to my screen and adjust the horizontal lens shift. Picture was freaking perfect, didnt even after to adjust the focus. We sat there and watched part of transformers in amazement. I turned to her and said I m going to tweak it some, she told me dont touch it and screw it up cause the picture was that good. I will play with it some but good god its just so good like it is. looks like it was shipped in thx mode.

Sorry for the long post but after reading this long thread for so long wanted to share my experience. So for paying half for pretty much a new projector still with warranty since it wasnt registered I wold say I got a killer deal.

After all the big money I spent on mine I hope u lose the receipt and your projector explodes. I'm jealous. Surely there has to be something wrong. Maybe the receipt is fake. Lol. Jk. Great find. Your rolling with the big boys. I bought a Epson 3010 from Bb for a 1/5 the new price and sold it to fund my 5020 then got a killer deal from Bb on the 5020. So I got a bit of a deal too. But congrats that's rock solid.
post #696 of 1271
Hi. I have 2 questions.

1) Will 5020Ub be able to play 3D movies from my PC if connecte4d through HDMI cable?

2) And if it might not support it, will Doctor HDMI (http://www.vidabox.com/wiki/index.php?title=Doctor_HDMI_-_Complete_Instructions#How_to_Learn_a_new_EDID_onto_the_Doctor_HDMI.3F) with its setting on 1 (1080p, Full HD 3D) be able to resolve the issue and allow me to play 3D movies through the stereoscopic player on my PC?

Please help me out. Thanks
post #697 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Mudcon View Post

dangit, I did too. crap........ I put the player on hdmi 2 and played it and holy crap. so it was with a 1.3 so I should be fine except finding another onkyo that does 3d.

You might want to try the Onkyo in "pass through" mode. It might be fine like that. Some older components with older versions of hdmi can sometimes pass the 3d signal. Also check the PS3, it will remember the video settings of when it was connected to the TV, so you may need to go back in those and redo 'em, and while your at it, you can turn off "deep color" as well.
post #698 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Cenna View Post

Hi. I have 2 questions.

1) Will 5020Ub be able to play 3D movies from my PC if connecte4d through HDMI cable?

2) And if it might not support it, will Doctor HDMI (http://www.vidabox.com/wiki/index.php?title=Doctor_HDMI_-_Complete_Instructions#How_to_Learn_a_new_EDID_onto_the_Doctor_HDMI.3F) with its setting on 1 (1080p, Full HD 3D) be able to resolve the issue and allow me to play 3D movies through the stereoscopic player on my PC?

Please help me out. Thanks

Don't know much about Doctor HDMI, except it seems to be a good product. The Epson should be able to run the 3d, it just might take some tweaking with your video card driver software. Resolution, freq changes, etc. With hdcp, computer player software, video driver software, video card differences, etc., it can sometimes be a little difficult, to track down any issue that may arise. There are HTPC and 3D Tech forums you can look at as well.
post #699 of 1271
Thank you jnabq. smile.gif I prefer ripping movies and digitally watching them from my PC. It helps with calibration as well for individual movies. Has anyone tried playing 3D movies through PC with success so far? Have you tried it jnabq? It would be great if someone here has done so. I tried searching other forums but no one has raised this issue in particular so far. Hoping you guys could help.
post #700 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Cenna View Post

Thank you jnabq. smile.gif I prefer ripping movies and digitally watching them from my PC. It helps with calibration as well for individual movies. Has anyone tried playing 3D movies through PC with success so far? Have you tried it jnabq? It would be great if someone here has done so. I tried searching other forums but no one has raised this issue in particular so far. Hoping you guys could help.

Naw, I game on my pc, but no 3d htpc. You might look into the 3d htpc thread, http://www.avsforum.com/t/1240499/faq-for-the-3d-htpc
or, through the related search for some issues some might have had..
http://www.avsforum.com/newsearch?advanced=1&action=disp&search=htpc%2B3d&titleonly=0&byuser=&output=all&replycompare=gt&numupdates=&sdate=0&newer=1&sort=relevance&order=descending&Search=SEARCH
post #701 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Cenna View Post

Thank you jnabq. smile.gif I prefer ripping movies and digitally watching them from my PC. It helps with calibration as well for individual movies. Has anyone tried playing 3D movies through PC with success so far? Have you tried it jnabq? It would be great if someone here has done so. I tried searching other forums but no one has raised this issue in particular so far. Hoping you guys could help.

I just use the side-by-side video files and they work perfect. note, I don't have a 5020, but it should still work, just select the correct 3D mode on the projector.

I have a 'kink' somewhere in my chain preventing 3D from bluray, I assume it's my hdmi splitter as my receiver and displays are both 3D capable, but the SBS videos still work just fine.
post #702 of 1271
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

Naw, I game on my pc, but no 3d htpc. You might look into the 3d htpc thread, http://www.avsforum.com/t/1240499/faq-for-the-3d-htpc
or, through the related search for some issues some might have had..
http://www.avsforum.com/newsearch?advanced=1&action=disp&search=htpc%2B3d&titleonly=0&byuser=&output=all&replycompare=gt&numupdates=&sdate=0&newer=1&sort=relevance&order=descending&Search=SEARCH

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Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

I just use the side-by-side video files and they work perfect. note, I don't have a 5020, but it should still work, just select the correct 3D mode on the projector.

I have a 'kink' somewhere in my chain preventing 3D from bluray, I assume it's my hdmi splitter as my receiver and displays are both 3D capable, but the SBS videos still work just fine.

Thank you so much for ur help smile.gif What player on your PC do you usually use to play SBS in 3D?
post #703 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Cenna View Post


Thank you so much for ur help smile.gif What player on your PC do you usually use to play SBS in 3D?

it really shouldn't matter, the player isn't doing anything. That's why it'll work through non-3D equipment. i've used both VLC and mediacenter personally.

this is what the PC has to deal with:


as far as the PC knows, it's just a normal HD video. the projector/tv is the device that splits it into a left and right image and creates the 3D effect. I'm sure the downside to doing this is resolution, but to be honest i find any 3D lowers the PQ anyway, the loss of pixels isn't a major factor even on the projector to me.
post #704 of 1271
I've changed my mind from a Benq1070 to a refurb 5010, but now I'm like, should I risk getting killed by the wife and springing for this guy?
post #705 of 1271
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

I've changed my mind from a Benq1070 to a refurb 5010, but now I'm like, should I risk getting killed by the wife and springing for this guy?

Technology wil always get better. Ask yourself this.. next year when the 5030 comes out are you going to upgrade again? I'm sure it'll be better. Unless there's a specific feature you must have in the new one that the old one doesn't have? (Didn't follow the whole thread, sorry).

By the way, I have a BenQ 1070 on order and if I don't like it I'm not sure what to get instead... can you give me your thoughts on the 5010 vs the 1070? The only things I think I may not like about the BenQ are noise and contrast. Light bleed is another concern, but may not matter in a darkened living room?

Thanks!
post #706 of 1271
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Originally Posted by fierce_gt View Post

it really shouldn't matter, the player isn't doing anything. That's why it'll work through non-3D equipment. i've used both VLC and mediacenter personally.

this is what the PC has to deal with:


as far as the PC knows, it's just a normal HD video. the projector/tv is the device that splits it into a left and right image and creates the 3D effect. I'm sure the downside to doing this is resolution, but to be honest i find any 3D lowers the PQ anyway, the loss of pixels isn't a major factor even on the projector to me.

Wow thanks a lot. It's good to know that this may work with any player. Just wanted to be sure of it.

Thanks man smile.gif
post #707 of 1271
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Originally Posted by ///3oris View Post

Technology wil always get better. Ask yourself this.. next year when the 5030 comes out are you going to upgrade again? I'm sure it'll be better. Unless there's a specific feature you must have in the new one that the old one doesn't have? (Didn't follow the whole thread, sorry).

By the way, I have a BenQ 1070 on order and if I don't like it I'm not sure what to get instead... can you give me your thoughts on the 5010 vs the 1070? The only things I think I may not like about the BenQ are noise and contrast. Light bleed is another concern, but may not matter in a darkened living room?

Thanks!

The two biggest concerns to me are contrast and placement,both of which the Epson would be far better at. Originally I wanted the best 3D picture I could get, but then I thought to myself I'd rather have the better contrast in 2D and suffer slightly in 3D since the majority of my movies are 2D after all. Also, the split screen functionality on the Epson is something I'd definitely use.
post #708 of 1271
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

I've changed my mind from a Benq1070 to a refurb 5010, but now I'm like, should I risk getting killed by the wife and springing for this guy?
I went from the 3010 to the 5020. It took some convincing to have my wife let me get it because of price but it looks so amazing and is such a big step up she actually feels it was worth it. The 5020 is that magical step into true theater realism a quality of picture that blows u away. The 3d In this projector is unbelievably better than the 3010 because of lower crosstalk and brightness. Before I had a theater and I thought I was faking it now I absolutely have a theater in my home that makes peoples jaws drop. Risk life love and happiness to get this projecter. I know people say there is always something better. Not than this Projector. The only way to make it better would be have it be anamorphic or have it be 4k. If u get the 5010 the low brightness on 3d will leave something to be Desired. Spend the next few days thinking about how u can convince the wife. To own the 5020 u have to have more than just money. You need a persuasive mind and cunning trickery. Can u master the sweet words of the women. Go back to how u won your wife over that's a start, Lol. Promise her chick flick Tuesdays. I want to build something for my theater this weekend. I got some smoozing to do. Wish me luck I wish u the same.
Edited by Evolvo - 6/15/13 at 7:03am
post #709 of 1271
It's not 4k, but the Darbee will help sharpen it up some. I like mine on the 6010. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

@CheYC, The 5010 is nice, but I did see someone not have very good luck with a refurb, so be aware you may have to play the "refurb runaround" game. If you get a good one at the $1700 price, its great. BTW, AVS here did have an open box one for $2k, and they could probably tell you if it's a good unit or not.
post #710 of 1271
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

It's not 4k, but the Darbee will help sharpen it up some. I like mine on the 6010. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

@CheYC, The 5010 is nice, but I did see someone not have very good luck with a refurb, so be aware you may have to play the "refurb runaround" game. If you get a good one at the $1700 price, its great. BTW, AVS here did have an open box one for $2k, and they could probably tell you if it's a good unit or not.

Thanks for the heads up. I've actually read similar stories too, which is another reason why I'm kind of considering upping the ante to the 5020 (plus it comes with 2 free glasses of course). I checked one out at BB yesterday and it looked fantastic. Of course then I'd feel like I'd need a better screen that the one I had originally planned on getting (Elite Sable Frame 110")
post #711 of 1271
How is the pixel density of the 5020? I have an LCOS projector and I'm interested in upgrading to this Epson. However, I sit close to a 123" screen and I would hate to be able to see pixel structure. So, if anyone has experienced either a Sony or Jvc projector, how does this Epson compare?
Edited by Jimbo85281 - 6/17/13 at 8:43am
post #712 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Jimbo85281 View Post

How is the pixel density of the 5020? I have an LCOS projector and I'm interested in upgrading to this Epson. However I sit close to. 123" screen and I would hate to be able to see pixel structure. So, if anyone has experienced either a Sony or Jvc projector, how does this compare?

Such a TINY SCREEN.

I sit 10ft from a 13ft screen and I can't see any pixels

If you see pixels - GET a NEW SCREEN.

It REPLACED my SONY.
post #713 of 1271
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Originally Posted by CheYC View Post

The two biggest concerns to me are contrast and placement,both of which the Epson would be far better at. Originally I wanted the best 3D picture I could get, but then I thought to myself I'd rather have the better contrast in 2D and suffer slightly in 3D since the majority of my movies are 2D after all. Also, the split screen functionality on the Epson is something I'd definitely use.

I've found the split screen to be a gimmick without dual hdmi ability. Most recievers upscale everything to hdmi, and most players won't output component with the hdmi cable plugged in. I guess if you have older stuff then it makes more sense.

About the only use I could think of is running a second cable box. But the picture in picture works well enough for that with a single box.
post #714 of 1271
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Originally Posted by jnabq View Post

It's not 4k, but the Darbee will help sharpen it up some. I like mine on the 6010. http://www.avsforum.com/t/1399154/darbee-vision-darblet

@CheYC, The 5010 is nice, but I did see someone not have very good luck with a refurb, so be aware you may have to play the "refurb runaround" game. If you get a good one at the $1700 price, its great. BTW, AVS here did have an open box one for $2k, and they could probably tell you if it's a good unit or not.

Well after owning the 5020 for a while now and after sending one back that had problems, I have come to the conclusion that it displays a very nice picture when the source is a 1080P signal. For any other res like 1080i the picture is pretty poor. I was wonder if this Darbee would help?
post #715 of 1271
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Originally Posted by drhankz View Post

Such a TINY SCREEN.

I sit 10ft from a 13ft screen and I can't see any pixels

If you see pixels - GET a NEW SCREEN.

It REPLACED my SONY.



This is good to know! I can't believe that Epson made such an amazing projector for under $3,000. They continue to impress. AND, I just heard that Epson is now the top choice for CE Pro installers, beating Sim2, Runco etc. Unbelievable!
post #716 of 1271
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Originally Posted by Jimbo85281 View Post

This is good to know! I can't believe that Epson made such an amazing projector for under $3,000. They continue to impress. AND, I just heard that Epson is now the top choice for CE Pro installers, beating Sim2, Runco etc. Unbelievable!

As a SONY CRT PJ Owner since 1996 and a SONY SXRD Owner since 2005 - The Epson is the BEST TO DATE.
post #717 of 1271
What great value too! For about $3000 including a 120" Screen Innovation, it pumps out a better image than the $9000 Sharp LCD 90". It compares very well to my Panny Plasma TV, maybe even better as it is more film like than the fixed pixel direct view set (color blended naturally rather than individual color pixels sitting close to each other to make color). Amazing!
post #718 of 1271
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Originally Posted by eyeful99 View Post

What great value too! For about $3000 including a 120" Screen Innovation, it pumps out a better image than the $9000 Sharp LCD 90". It compares very well to my Panny Plasma TV, maybe even better as it is more film like than the fixed pixel direct view set (color blended naturally rather than individual color pixels sitting close to each other to make color). Amazing!

I AGREE 100%

post #719 of 1271
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Originally Posted by eyeful99 View Post

What great value too! For about $3000 including a 120" Screen Innovation, it pumps out a better image than the $9000 Sharp LCD 90". It compares very well to my Panny Plasma TV, maybe even better as it is more film like than the fixed pixel direct view set (color blended naturally rather than individual color pixels sitting close to each other to make color). Amazing!

Maybe on 1080p stuff it looks good (not as good as a good plasma) but on regular hd stuff it is not even close to a plasma. Just try watching golf on it. Reminds me of the difference between sd and hd.
post #720 of 1271
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Originally Posted by KTM250 View Post

Maybe on 1080p stuff it looks good (not as good as a good plasma) but on regular hd stuff it is not even close to a plasma. Just try watching golf on it. Reminds me of the difference between sd and hd.
You might not have something setup properly. I watch a lot of golf on mine and it is as good or better than my 2010 model Samsung 5900 series D plasma. In fact, in some respects it is better because it is brighter and I don't have to fiddle with the gamma as much to get good contrast. The US Open this weekend was on NBC which to me is not the best sports channel because of motion blur but you would have that on the plasma too since it is source based.
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