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Draper Contrast Radiant vs. Da-Lite High Contrast High Power (HCHP)

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Does anyone have any experience with the Draper Contrast Radiant surface (http://www.cepro.com/best/details/contrast_radiant_ch2700e/)?

This is a high-gain, grey surface. Kind of like 'the holy grail' in my book, since I live in a condo in the city & can't (reasonably) control the reflections off of light-colored ceilings & walls.

Now the Da-Lite High Contrast High Power (HCHP) has been criticized for having texture. I can confirm that. My 110" HCHP surface has a very distracting texture, seen here:


Those horizontal & mostly vertical striations show up in viewing.

But the HCHP surface yields more contrast than Da-Lite's 'High Power' (HP) surface, since I have light-colored walls & ceilings.

So, rather than just replacing my HCHP screen with a HP screen (which'll scatter more light to my walls/ceilings), I'm wondering if the Draper Contrast Radiant surface does NOT have a texture.

In my own tests, the Draper Contrast Radiant screen surface appears to be extremely similar to the Da-Lite HCHP surface in gain/color:


But I only had a small sample of the Draper screen, so I have no idea how it holds up across the entire surface area of the 110" screen. A close inspection of this small Draper sample vs. the HCHP indicates that they may be the same exact material... the underlying texture/weave looks exactly the same between the two. Gain/color & everything else appears to be the same. So maybe it's sourced from the same manufacturer, hence there's reason to believe it may have the same issues as the HCHP.

Anyone have experience with it?

Many thanks in advance!
Edited by sarangiman - 1/11/13 at 12:05pm
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very interesting, this is the screen that a lot of people have wanted Dalite to make, i.e. a gray Hipower.

You might want to check into this thread http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334832/new-high-contrast-high-power-discussion-thread/350_50 where I just alerted people to the Draper; they're discussing similar screens
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Sorry guys; I had to correct one of my statements above.

The underlying weave/texture of the Draper Radiant, Contrast Radiant, Da-Lite HP & HCHP all appear to be the same.

Makes me wonder if all the screen materials are sourced from the same manufacturer...
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Allow me to report back with my experience on the Draper Contrast Radiant screen.

The Draper tensioning system is better than Da-Lite's snap system. It applies even texture, so, no possibility of ripples.

But the process of getting that last rod across the last notch will require many people pulling that last section. Careful: if you're just one person, you'll likely injure yourself like I did (cuts + pulled muscles in my hand).

I, personally, might put up with Da-Lite's snap system just to avoid the assembly of the Draper screen. It was a nightmare.

Furthermore, the Draper 'Contrast Radiant' surface has the same problems as the Da-Lite High Contrast High Power (HCHP) material. Draper, it seemed, was less willing to work out the problem with me, & more willing to just take a return. Da-Lite seemed more willing to work with me by getting a manager to QC a screen & check it for issues before shipping it to me. So, I decided to go with a Da-Lite replacement, especially since Seegs108 reported here that his replacement was clean, after specifically asking for inspection for his replacement (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1455184/hats-off-to-da-lite).

I'm waiting on the Da-Lite replacement.

In the meantime, here's one image that showcases all the problems with HCHP/Contrast Radiant screens:

Full-Size Image: http://cl.ly/NEsV/HCHP&ContrastRadiant-Dirtiness.jpg

  1. Note the large oval smear (circled in blue) near the bottom right of the attached image of the screen. That's what happens when you try to clean the screen. There's some residue being spread around.
  2. Note the rectangles all over the screen that are brighter than the rest of the screen (2 such rectangles are circled in red). This was from taking the Da-Lite sample patches that have one line of sticky tape on the back, placing it on the screen, then pulling it off. That process clearly removed some of whatever residue is coating the screen & making it darker than it should be (note: if you place a HCHP sample patch on top of the actual 110" HCHP screen I bought, the actual 110" screen is considerably darker than the sample patch... presumably from whatever residue is coating the screen that is not coating the sample patch of the same material).
  3. Furthermore, I enclose (in a black box) one of the obvious vertical streaks that shows up as a darker vertical band during content viewing. Many more of these are obvious during viewing, but are difficult to capture in a photo.
  4. Finally, I circle in magenta a region where you'll find a diagonal rectangular region that's brighter than the rest of the screen, due to the same procedure of attaching/removing the sticky tape from one of the Da-Lite sample patches on the screen. I strategically placed the tape across a darker horizontal band (leads to 'banding') to see if this process of 'cleaning' could get rid of the 'bands'. As you can see, though the tape lightened that region of the screen (presumably from removing whatever dirty residue is on the screen), it did not remove any bit of the horizontal darker band. In other words, I really have no idea where the banding (dark horizontal/vertical streaks) is coming from in the manufacturing process.

Da-Lite/Draper do not even seem to be aware of this problem. So, if you have it, please call up & complain. Fiberglass-based screens should have texture/sparklies, yes, but not the defects enumerated above.
Edited by sarangiman - 2/28/13 at 8:10am
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And, to recapitulate: I can't recommend the Da-Lite High Contrast High Power (HCHP) screen, or the Draper 'Contrast Radiant' screen, to anyone until they fix these issues.
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You did a great service to me and many of us. Thanks!
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And, to recapitulate: I can't recommend the Da-Lite High Contrast High Power (HCHP) screen, or the Draper 'Contrast Radiant' screen, to anyone until they fix these issues.

thank you
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