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post #31 of 95
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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman View Post

Prince of Darkness???????? I'm all over that one!...

 

Forgive me for steppin on your astonishment Dan, but... smile.gif Matilda's finally out in HD?!!... What the...?!! wink.gifbiggrin.gif

 

That's cause for celebration friends... 3 shouts for the Shout Factory (Yippee! Yahoo! And Hooray!! )

 

It's been a good coupla months for cheezy (and sexy) horror flicks. First Vamp Lovers, then Creature from the Black Lagoon 2D/3D (standalone), and now LF!! (And several Poe pix also on the way.) Maybe The Fog will finally materialize soon too. Sounds like a good summer to stay in and watch some good old-fashioned schlockcool.gif

post #32 of 95
And not too forget, In the Mouth of Madness is coming in September, "Do YOU read Sutter Kane"
post #33 of 95
I have LIFEFORCE here, but just don't have time to watch it. Hopefully this weekend will be free so I can experience what is arguably my guiltiest pleasure.
post #34 of 95
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

I have LIFEFORCE here, but just don't have time to watch it. Hopefully this weekend will be free so I can experience what is arguably my guiltiest pleasure.

There's a french magazine called "L'Écran Fantastique" (it still exists by the way) specialized in sci-fi/horror movies, I was 13 in 1985 and bought issue #61 only because they were covering Lifeforce... with several photos of Mathilda! wink.gif I think I still have it! smile.gif And I think I'm gonna make a custom cover for this blu-ray!! tongue.gif
post #35 of 95
All this talk w/o pictures...shame shame
lifeforce-mathilda-may.jpg

and

Lifeforce-Mathilda-May.jpg
post #36 of 95
I saw it in the theater on its original run. I own the VHS. I own the DVD. I have a second copy on DVD from some bundle pack I bought.

And I still want the blu ray.

I might have an illness.
post #37 of 95
Nah, that's a common enough weakness--I think we all have at least one "buy-on-sight" film. That said, in this case I'm not sure how badly the curve is being skewed due to Mathilda May running around nekkid (to paraphrase Designing Women: naked is when you have no clothes on, but nekkid is when you have no clothes on and you're up to something)...
post #38 of 95
Mathilda May ...... nekkid.



Heh-heh... Heh-heh .. Heh-heh.... Sweet.
post #39 of 95
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Originally Posted by thatscifiguy View Post

I saw it in the theater on its original run. I own the VHS. I own the DVD. I have a second copy on DVD from some bundle pack I bought.

And I still want the blu ray.

I might have an illness.
No you're fine. Now if you had tracked down the Japanese laserdisc... biggrin.gif
post #40 of 95
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Originally Posted by Bill C. View Post

Nah, that's a common enough weakness--I think we all have at least one "buy-on-sight" film. That said, in this case I'm not sure how badly the curve is being skewed due to Mathilda May running around nekkid (to paraphrase Designing Women: naked is when you have no clothes on, but nekkid is when you have no clothes on and you're up to something)...
Not that skewed, some of us just enjoy energy discharges destroying every thing in sight.
post #41 of 95
I had a chance to view the extras and the clips shown during them sure do look amazing. Very much like the MGM-HD broadcast, but a bit richer and of course, no MPEG2 banding.
post #42 of 95
Cap-A-Holic's has shots up, with comparisons of the Shout Bluray release to the US DVD and the Pulp Video bluray release

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?cap1=22894&cap2=18601&art=full&image=4&cID=1739&action=1&lossless=#vergleich
post #43 of 95
So same transfer, but different encoding. The Shout! looks superior in some caps. But EPIC FAIL for no boobie pics. tongue.gif
Edited by Matt_Stevens - 6/29/13 at 12:40pm
post #44 of 95
You like Mathilda May?? check out 'Tete and the Moon' (also called The Tit and the Moon, and/or 'La Teta y la luna'.
Verrry off the wall.
post #45 of 95
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

So same transfer, but different encoding. The SHout! looks uperior in some caps.

Caps-a-holic's Playlist info says the opposite, the Pulp version is using a 1080i tv master but both have the same codec at the same average kbps.
post #46 of 95
Watched it straight through last night. I have zero complaints. Highly recommended. Can't go wrong with this one.

EDIT: Some dingdongs in another forum are saying this is an upconvert. rolleyes.gif Amazing.
Edited by Matt_Stevens - 6/29/13 at 6:34pm
post #47 of 95
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

Watched it straight through last night. I have zero complaints. Highly recommended. Can't go wrong with this one.

EDIT: Some dingdongs in another forum are saying this is an upconvert. rolleyes.gif Amazing.
Let me guess is that forum B___ R___ .c__ , I'm always up to watching a good train wreck of words.
post #48 of 95
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stevens View Post

Watched it straight through last night. I have zero complaints. Highly recommended. Can't go wrong with this one.

EDIT: Some dingdongs in another forum are saying this is an upconvert. rolleyes.gif Amazing.

 

Thx Matt (and 10th).

 

I read through the upconvert nonsense on the other site. (Don't think I've seen the longer international director's cut btw, so it'll be interesting to check that out.) Reviews of the IC/DC are sort of mixed there. Some think it's pretty good (all things considered), while others say the picture still needs work, and fell somewhat short of their hopes/expectations. There seemed to be pretty unanimous agreement that the sound quality on the theatrical version was unacceptable though, and it sounds like many who prefer that version are waiting for reviews on a Region B release from Arrow.

 

I'm not expectin miracles from a title like this though. Just a halfway decent upgrade on the non-anamorphic DVD (which actually didn't look all that bad on my 34" CRT, except for scintillation and detail issues.) And based on the screencaps and comments I've seen, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the Shout BD for now.

 

Maybe you, Partyslammer or others here who've seen the BD can comment on a few of the issues raised there though, such as DNR, sharpening, digital noise, "flashing", and gate weave? And also on the sound of the theatrical version. I'll probably end up getting it either way, but it would be interesting to hear some more opinions/observations on those things.

 

I believe someone also mentioned that the sleeve art was reversible. Maybe someone could post a pic or link so we could see what the other artwork looks like (if it's not too R-rated)?


Edited by ADU - 6/30/13 at 3:07pm
post #49 of 95
I don't own this disc, but if the reverse cover uses the US theatrical poster art, then this is likely it:



From this site: http://horror.about.com/od/2013newhorrorreleases/tp/New-Horror-Releases-June-16-2013.02.htm
post #50 of 95
Here's the flip side of the Shout Factory case art:



Reading comments about the SF transfer, yes, there is some minor gate weave, most noticeable (for me anyway) in the opening 5 or so minutes of the International Cut but in no way is it really distracting. Regarding the audio quality of the Theatrical Cut soundtrack, I didn't notice any "out of phase" issues however it's clearly not as full bodied and more center speaker-centric versus the International Cut's soundtrack. There is some softness in many shots, even those without opticals, likely due to the way it was filmed (2x anamorphic lense) but as it's been stated here and elseware, it is *not* any sort of upconvert. Considering the limited appeal of this basically cult sci-fi film, anyone who enjoy(ed) this movie should be pretty happy with this release, especially comparing it with previous dvd releases. And I say this as someone not 100% pleased with the new, oversaturated color timing in the "space' sequences.
post #51 of 95

Thank you GregK & PS!

 

Not sure if I prefer the original poster art above or the new SF cover art, but it's nice they give you both options. (The new SF artwork has a retro feel that I also like.)

 

 

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Originally Posted by Partyslammer View Post

Regarding the audio quality of the Theatrical Cut soundtrack, I didn't notice any "out of phase" issues however it's clearly not as full bodied and more center speaker-centric versus the International Cut's soundtrack.

 

All the comments I've read seem pretty positive re the sound on the international cut. I think one person on the other site mentioned that the bass seemed overdone on the IC though. Any thoughts on that?

post #52 of 95
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Originally Posted by ADU View Post

All the comments I've read seem pretty positive re the sound on the international cut. I think one person on the other site mentioned that the bass seemed overdone on the IC though. Any thoughts on that?

I can see where some listeners might have that opinion. I can't comment objectively because my HT setup is very much overkill bass-wise which I like. But there is decent if perhaps a bit artificial sounding (for this soundtrack) LF.
post #53 of 95
Personally I feel that the sound is just fine on the IC. Actually, it's pretty darned good.

I didn't bother with the cut down version.
post #54 of 95

^ Good to know.

 

Maybe it was the theaters I was going to at the time, but it seems to me that "thunderous" bass tracks were sort of de rigueur for action films made in the 80's around the same time as LF. (The Indiana Jones films, Empire Strikes Back, and even The Keep comes to mind in that regard.) I think alot of theaters were probably upgrading to more advanced digital surround systems around that time as well.

post #55 of 95
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Originally Posted by ADU View Post

^ Good to know.

Maybe it was the theaters I was going to at the time, but it seems to me that "thunderous" bass tracks were sort of de rigueur for action films made in the 80's around the same time as LF. (The Indiana Jones films, Empire Strikes Back, and even The Keep comes to mind in that regard.) I think alot of theaters were probably upgrading to more advanced digital surround systems around that time as well.
And don't forget THX theaters vs. other theaters some of the non-THX theaters would run films louder and bottom heavy. Once you heard what THX could do you got used to the clarity and general rightness of the sound.
post #56 of 95

^ Good point 10th. Looks like the first THX film was Return of the Jedi, released in March 1983. So many of the better theaters were probably already THX-equipped when LF came out in '85. I don't think LF was actually THX mastered though.

 

I wonder if there's a list of THX mastered films still floating around anywhere. It looks like it was removed from the official THX site.


Edited by ADU - 7/6/13 at 5:18pm
post #57 of 95
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Originally Posted by ADU View Post

^ Good point 10th. Looks like the first THX film was Return of the Jedi, released in March 1983. So many of the better theaters were probably already THX-equipped when LF came out in '85. I don't think LF was actually THX mastered though.

I wonder if there's a list of THX mastered films still floating around anywhere. It looks like it was removed from the official THX site.

There is no "THX-mastered" in the context that you are using it as it is not a "mastering process" for cinema releases. "THX-mastered" refers to home video releases that have undergone THX quality control and management. It was a quality assurance process applied from the film transfer to the disc/tape replication stage. "THX-certified" is what you should be saying in place of "THX-equipped" when it comes to talking about cinemas.
post #58 of 95

I think you're probably correct on all the above in the current context of THX, Lex. But I believe the exact definition of what THX represents has evolved over time.

 

I was under the impression that a number of films in the 80's and 90's were specifically mastered (or maybe "mixed" is a better term) for THX theaters, probably at Skywalker Sound in many cases, or possibly in other post-production facilities with THX-certified sound stages. And those were the films which carried the THX logo... Maybe I'm wrong about that though.

 

Here's an excerpt from the Wikipedia THX page which appears to support my contention though...

 

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The THX system is not a recording technology, and it does not specify a sound recording format: all sound formats, whether digital (Dolby Digital, SDDS) or analog (Dolby Stereo, Ultra-Stereo), can be "shown in THX." THX is mainly a quality assurance system. THX-certified theaters provide a high-quality, predictable playback environment to ensure that any film soundtrack mixed in THX will sound as near as possible to the intentions of the mixing engineer.

 

(^ My emphasis.)

 

I also believe there was a list of films from the 80's and 90's specifically mixed for THX on the official website, but it was removed at some point.

 

You're probably also correct that the proper term for theaters is "THX-certified", rather than "THX-equipped", but here's another excerpt from Wikipedia which also seems to support the latter characterization...

 

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THX also provides certified theaters with a special crossover circuit whose use is part of the standard. Certification of an auditorium entails specific acoustic and other technical requirements; architectural requirements include a floating floor, baffled and acoustically treated walls, no parallel walls (to reduce standing waves), a perforated screen (to allow center channel continuity), and NC30 rating for background pipe organ.

 

I believe the "X" in THX refers to the crossover technology mentioned above. I'm not an expert on theater sound systems though, so take all my comments above with a grain of salt.


Edited by ADU - 7/7/13 at 1:00pm
post #59 of 95
One explanation of THX is it stood for Tomlinsin Holman's Experiment which would be THE unless you knock the E off than it becomes xperiment. He was working for George Lucas at the time. Also Lucas made a little film called THX-1138. Holman is credited for the THX work but how the X came about we may never know..
The important thing is a THX theater benefits the sound of any film. Even old ones in mono.
post #60 of 95
If anyone lives in or near the DC area, The AFI Silver is showing Lifeforce this weekend during "part 2" of their 70mm series (part 1 was last summer). They cite the six-track mix as the big reason to see it this way, as none of the movie was actually shot in large format.
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