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post #61 of 94
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Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

Recording in full HDTV quality requires a PC with HDMI or component inputs, and perhaps the HDfury and/or other HDMI accessories.
Last I heard, the HDFury was effectively dead in the US. They finally got nailed on their v3 product and had to put in support for honoring HDCP -- which means it is useless for 99.9% of the people who would buy it. Their website www.hdfury.com seems to be just a shell. I don't know how these Lenking converters have managed to fly under the radar. Perhaps because the quality is so dreadful, the HDCP authority just laughs at them.
post #62 of 94
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I don't know how these Lenking converters have managed to fly under the radar. Perhaps because the quality is so dreadful, the HDCP authority just laughs at them.
That would be my guess, + since they are strictly SD I don't see how HD(high definition)CP can pertain, macrovision would be another issue.
post #63 of 94
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Last I heard, the HDFury was effectively dead in the US. They finally got nailed on their v3 product and had to put in support for honoring HDCP -- which means it is useless for 99.9% of the people who would buy it. Their website www.hdfury.com seems to be just a shell.

People have been saying that for a couple of years,and it's just not true.If that were true then i couldn't have gotten my Fury2 shipped to me.,It's just that there are no US/CAN. resellers but you can still have one shipped here(US),but it comes directly from China now instead of Taiwan. Even the cost of a Fury is denominated in USD which i don't think they'd do if it weren't available for shipping to the US.

They are HDCP compliant now so there is some tinkering(reprogramming) that must be done. IIRC their HDMI DR. may help with that problem?? They're certainly not easy to use right out of the box as they used to be, but they are still viable if you don't mind having to do some reprogramming.Luckily i have a Fury2 which works well and doesn't require any reprogramming. smile.gif

PS: I just went through the ordering process for a HDFury4 and had no problem.They only required my US shipping address along with my payment. Of course i didn't finish the transaction cuz i don't need one.
Edited by greaser - 1/24/13 at 11:15am
post #64 of 94
Yes, SD is fine for my needs. Just hooked up a 7-year old XP PC with an A/V out jack that has been in my closet for some time.
I can get a recordable signal on my recorder, but the video quality is rather poor, as no matter how I adjust the screen settings in Windows the picture is just barely acceptable.
But on the other hand it does remove copy protection, so until I can get a decent converter for my Roku I can at least fall back on this configuration.
post #65 of 94
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

PS: I just went through the ordering process for a HDFury4 and had no problem.They only required my US shipping address along with my payment. Of course i didn't finish the transaction cuz i don't need one.
What is the web site?
www.hdfury.com seems to be abandoned.

There is at least 1 HD Fury model that is sold in the US.
post #66 of 94
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

What is the web site?
www.hdfury.com seems to be abandoned.

There is at least 1 HD Fury model that is sold in the US.

I used the link you provided. tongue.gif my pc logged me in to my account on their website automatically when i went there, it's the same site that i have had bookmarked on my pc ever since i bought my Fury2.
Edited by greaser - 1/24/13 at 12:36pm
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post #68 of 94
OK, there must be something wrong with my accessing that web site through our firewall. When I open it I get a dead website where all of the links just send me back to the same page.
post #69 of 94
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Originally Posted by CitiBear View Post

Recording in full HDTV quality requires a PC with HDMI or component inputs, and perhaps the HDfury and/or other HDMI accessories.
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Originally Posted by Super Eye View Post

At CES 2013 Hauppauge introduced 2 new HD PVRs. One for gamers and one for video archivers

The Hauppauge HD PVR 2 model 1512 is the one designed for video archivers

http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/10/hauppauge-introduces-the-hd-prv-2-video-recorder/

Google Hauppauge HD PVR 2 model 1512 for lots more info.

What about this one?
post #70 of 94
^^^That's not exactly what a person would buy to connect to a Roku box for SD recording off the internet to a SD DVDR,which is what the poster(Dick Drivel)wants to do.Neither is an HDfury, unless you already happen to own one like i do,AND have a Component>s video converter to connect to an HDFury.In fact i rarely(only under certain conditions) use my HDfury + Component converter on my Roku box cuz there's usually very little to be gained by doing so,i just use my Sima CT-2 filter,it's easier to connect, and considering the excellent PQ i get from the composite video output on my Roku box,the filter works 'almost' as well.The diff.is slim for SD recording.I have noticed that my Sima works better on my Roku(PQ-wise) than it ever did with my old sat.tv service.Dunno why though confused.gif
Edited by greaser - 1/24/13 at 4:02pm
post #71 of 94
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

OK, there must be something wrong with my accessing that web site through our firewall. When I open it I get a dead website where all of the links just send me back to the same page.
Yup, was the firewall. At home the website looks fine.
post #72 of 94
Kelson i like that little ditty you have at the bottom of your posts...."The bitterness of poor quality lasts long after the sweetness of the low price is forgotten". Oh how true it is!!!
May i add: The beauty of high quality video remains long after the bitterness of the high price to achieve it is forgotten. biggrin.gif
Edited by greaser - 1/24/13 at 4:50pm
post #73 of 94
Thread Starter 
Just picked up the Monoprice HDMI to COMPOSITE / S VIDEO Converter and ran it from my Sony BD / Netflix player into my Panny VCR / DVD burner then onto a 50" plasma to see what it looks like.....It removed any CP and got rid of those annoying bars on the top and bottom and although it's not HD I guess it's as good as it's gonna get through a composite imput....It's not like I'm going to record a show from netflix and take it down and watch it on my HD projector, I've got my Roku down there for that, more like if I find a good documentary or something I might wanna share with a friend say, so the pq isn't all that important but it is better than what I was getting from Netflix directly into the composite input on the dvd burner so can't complain......DT
post #74 of 94
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

May i add: The beauty of high quality video remains long after the bitterness of the high price to achieve it is forgotten. biggrin.gif
Thing is, the price really isn't all that high.
post #75 of 94
I wonder if you could consider copying a protected stream from Netflix any different than copying a Netflix rental disk or copying a disk from the library.
post #76 of 94
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

Kelson i like that little ditty you have at the bottom of your posts...."The bitterness of poor quality lasts long after the sweetness of the low price is forgotten". Oh how true it is!!!
May i add: The beauty of high quality video remains long after the bitterness of the high price to achieve it is forgotten. biggrin.gif
I just realized, when you don't log on(which I don't usually do unless I want to post) not only do things like kelson's sig not show up but also something like Wajo's sig with all his links........kind of a poor setup, especially for newbies frown.gif must be another benefit of our new platform rolleyes.gif
post #77 of 94
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Originally Posted by jjeff View Post

I just realized, when you don't log on(which I don't usually do unless I want to post) not only do things like kelson's sig not show up . . .
I always log on. My Firefox browser always logs me onto AVS automatically. Otherwise I don't get the interface customizations I like and It doesn't show me my subscribed threads or take me to the last unread post in a thread.
post #78 of 94
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I wonder if you could consider copying a protected stream from Netflix any different than copying a Netflix rental disk or copying a disk from the library.

All the same to me.
post #79 of 94
Does the converter need to HDMI 1.3 and higher compliant? Thanks.
post #80 of 94
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Originally Posted by Dick Drivel View Post

Does the converter need to HDMI 1.3 and higher compliant? Thanks.

No. I've been using an old standard HDMI cable from 2006 and it works just fine with HD sources.
post #81 of 94
The Video Filter will allow you to record from Netflix, Roku and other sources. If you are interested, send me a PM.
post #82 of 94
I found a video on Netflix that my Sima CT2 had trouble with. It's a documentary titled "Paul McCartney Really Is Dead:The Last Testament of George Harrison". It's a doc. purportedly narrated by George Harrison on two mini-cassettes stating that Paul really did die on 11/9/66 in a car crash,and is only available to watch on Netflix until 3/1/13. I won't go in to the story presented in the doc. cuz that's not the point of my post, but it's Definitely worth a watch.

The point of my post is that my Sima was only barely able to do its job,and in some of the scenes the CP was so heavy that the video came through very poorly and wasn't very watchable at all(the effects of CP were highly visible),while other scenes were perfectly clear.I can only suppose that Netflix has some form of industrial strength CP that is so strong or diff. that the Sima can't fully remove it. I didn't use my Fury/Atlona combo,maybe that would have done a better job, i don't know, maybe Logic Design's Video Filter could have done a better job,who knows.

This is the first time i'v ever seen my Sima have trouble with anything i threw at it until now. This ain't a positive development. eek.gif
Edited by greaser - 2/26/13 at 9:24am
post #83 of 94
Check out the new Video Filter website at http://videofilter.net
post #84 of 94
Forgot about this thread, but am still looking for a converter to out-trick N'flix. Would this one here work for SD:
http://www.amazon.com/Generic-Lenkeng-Composite-S-Video-Converter/dp/B00DI6I0CS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389358081&sr=8-1&keywords=Lenkeng+LKV381

TIA for your help.
post #85 of 94

That should work if you have a CP'd HDMI source. Lenkeng isn't the highest quality converter and they tend to lighten the picture a tad as well as lose some resolution but the alternative would probably be closer to $500 so unless your willing to spend that much I'd probably just get the Lenkeng.
Wow these devices have went up, when I got mine a few years ago it wasn't much over $30, unless you can find it cheaper I'd probably just go with the one you linked :)

post #86 of 94
Dick,Here's another converter for your consideration.http://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digital-Universal-Composite-Converter/dp/B00GA4Y6U0/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389368751&sr=1-4&keywords=j-tech+digital It's about the same price as a Lenkeng.Not a lot of user reviews,but most reviews are positive. Anyway it's worth a try if the Lenkeng turns out to be a dud.
Edited by greaser - 1/10/14 at 9:57am
post #87 of 94
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

Dick,Here's another converter for your consideration.http://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digital-Universal-Composite-Converter/dp/B00GA4Y6U0/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1389368751&sr=1-4&keywords=j-tech+digital It's about the same price as a Lenkeng,but supposedly has 8 HDMI inputs.Not a lot of user reviews,but most reviews are positive. Anyway it's worth a try if the Lenkeng turns out to be a dud.
You need to look at that listing more closely and click on the entry to bring up the correct description -- the device converts to HDMI and is basically a switch for a TV with only 1 HDMI input. The device is 8-inputs (2Xcomponent, 2Xcomposite, 3XHDMI, 1XVGA) and one HDMI output. It also costs $136.
post #88 of 94
Well that's damn strange.It shows HDMI in composite out. And it says on the page universal "hdmi to composite/s-video PAL/NTSC converter.
Edited by greaser - 1/10/14 at 8:46am
post #89 of 94
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Originally Posted by greaser View Post

Well that's damn strange.It shows HDMI in composite out. And it says on the page universal "hdmi to composite/s-video PAL/NTSC converter.
Those little boxes in the description are not features but links to four different models.
Click on the box that says "Multi-Functional HDMI Converter with 8 Inputs" and you will see what I mean.
post #90 of 94
The converter i'm talking about is the one pictured.That one has the usual 1 HDMI input and 1 each of composite/s-video output. Costs $60 bucks,marked down from $130.00. I amended my above post.I deleted the 8 input feature.
Edited by greaser - 1/10/14 at 12:02pm
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